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Lwrenagain · 18/08/2023 02:35

I've just given birth to my beautiful little DD but she's been quite unwell and I'm only able to hold her during her feeds as she needs the light therapy for jaundice.
I'm naturally devastated, incredibly grateful I'm next to her and can hold her, bit we've not really had much time with cuddles etc yet.
Anyway, because of this, even though I've had a section, I'm well rested.
I really don't do anything but look at my baby. Like now, I could be asleep, but I'm just unable to.

Anyway, there's a mum here who's also had a section and her wee DS is quite unsettled and she sounds for lack of better description, fucking shattered.

I think they're asleep now but the poor woman hasn't had a minute to rest, let alone sleep. Bless her baba, he's a half an hour and wide awake lad!

I don't want to be weird or make her uncomfortable at all, but I'd like her to know if she wants a few hours kip I'd happily mind her wee fella for her, he's bottle fed so she could realistically get a bit of sleep. I feel awful for her and I'd love to help.

Would I seem like a creepy weirdo trying to steal her baby or would it be one of those "it takes a village" things and she'd be happy for the chance of sleep?

I don't want to make her feel awkward or anything, but I'd like her to know if she needs some rest, I'm literally a curtain away.

OP posts:
wherethelostsocksare · 18/08/2023 07:42

oakleaffy · 18/08/2023 07:37

OP's baby needed lights to break down jaundice in her baby's skin. She wasn't there for the jollies of it...Hospitals aren't spas.

That’a why the baby is there. Mother don’t get admitted for that! The mother is recovering from a c section which is major abdominal surgery. She is probably in for observation.

CoffeeIsTheAnswer1 · 18/08/2023 07:43

Sugarfree23 · 18/08/2023 07:37

Congratulations 🎊.
A lovely offer, but your own LO is likely to be more alert now. Don't bite of more than you can chew.

@CoffeeIsTheAnswer1 what decade are you talking about when nurseries were a thing?

Current policy is 'rooming in' new babies should be with their mum 24/7. New mums are the only hospital patients who are expected to care for another patient. Wards are short staffed and often expect the other parent/ birth partner to plug the gabs which isn't always possible if there are other children who need looking after at home.

Around 2010. I may be out of touch. Like I said, I didn't have babies in hospital myself. I had to be in with one postnatally for a couple of days, but my Dh was allowed to stay with me in a private room then, so I had help.

HappiDaze · 18/08/2023 07:43

Yay for your baby getting better

It would be a very bad idea to hold someone else newborn as the baby needs to bind with its mother so would get very confusing

HappiDaze · 18/08/2023 07:43

Bond

CoffeeIsTheAnswer1 · 18/08/2023 07:45

oakleaffy · 18/08/2023 07:37

OP's baby needed lights to break down jaundice in her baby's skin. She wasn't there for the jollies of it...Hospitals aren't spas.

That's a medical reason to need to be there then. Glad your baby is good now OP.

I'm just reading all these posts of mothers who say they had no help and were all on their own. So if there is no medical reason and all is well, I'm genuinely curious what services they are staying in hospital for.

BlastedIce · 18/08/2023 07:45

CoffeeIsTheAnswer1 · 18/08/2023 06:54

Genuine question. If you don't have an answer, feel free to pass by.

Genuine question,

having read the OP, do you not understand why OP is in hospital still?

She states her baby is unwell.

BlastedIce · 18/08/2023 07:46

CoffeeIsTheAnswer1 · 18/08/2023 07:45

That's a medical reason to need to be there then. Glad your baby is good now OP.

I'm just reading all these posts of mothers who say they had no help and were all on their own. So if there is no medical reason and all is well, I'm genuinely curious what services they are staying in hospital for.

You were told in the OP the medical reason, so why did you ask?

CoffeeIsTheAnswer1 · 18/08/2023 07:46

BlastedIce · 18/08/2023 07:39

Oh just her baby being treated under light therapy for jaundice, because they’re quite unwell.

Had you not had your morning coffee when you put this post up?

Clearly you haven't had your morning coffee or you'd have noticed I asked about people who have no medical reason. ;-) Obviously having to have your baby under lights is a medical reason.

ForestGoblin · 18/08/2023 07:46

Seriously I don't understand why women all go along with this. Absolute torture. If no one worked as unpaid auxiliaries the nurses couldn't expect you to.

JenWillsiam · 18/08/2023 07:46

CoffeeIsTheAnswer1 · 18/08/2023 03:08

I wouldn't. If she wants to sleep, especially with a bottle fed baby, the nurses can organise for the baby to go to the nursery (or be cared for in the nurses station for a bit).

That never happens. Ever.

headcheffer · 18/08/2023 07:47

CoffeeIsTheAnswer1 · 18/08/2023 03:08

I wouldn't. If she wants to sleep, especially with a bottle fed baby, the nurses can organise for the baby to go to the nursery (or be cared for in the nurses station for a bit).

When I gave birth a few months ago the midwives wouldn't even watch my baby while I went for a wee and to change my pad let alone "put her in the nursery or watch her at the nurses station".

ForestGoblin · 18/08/2023 07:47

JenWillsiam · 18/08/2023 07:46

That never happens. Ever.

It would if the patient refused and said I need to sleep. It's a hospital. For patients.

CoffeeIsTheAnswer1 · 18/08/2023 07:48

BlastedIce · 18/08/2023 07:45

Genuine question,

having read the OP, do you not understand why OP is in hospital still?

She states her baby is unwell.

I'm asking about collective posts where others are sharing experiences, not OP specifically. She obviously is in there with reason so clearly the question isn't about her.

ForestGoblin · 18/08/2023 07:48

headcheffer · 18/08/2023 07:47

When I gave birth a few months ago the midwives wouldn't even watch my baby while I went for a wee and to change my pad let alone "put her in the nursery or watch her at the nurses station".

They're still legally responsible for the safety of the baby on the ward. People shouldn't ask. Say "I'll be away for a bit". Then go.

CoffeeIsTheAnswer1 · 18/08/2023 07:49

JenWillsiam · 18/08/2023 07:46

That never happens. Ever.

So I've learned. Maybe we need volunteers on wards to give the mothers more support?

BlastedIce · 18/08/2023 07:50

CoffeeIsTheAnswer1 · 18/08/2023 07:46

Clearly you haven't had your morning coffee or you'd have noticed I asked about people who have no medical reason. ;-) Obviously having to have your baby under lights is a medical reason.

So who said anyone was in hospital for the sake of it?

You’ve not had NHS maternity care, so why you think you’re an authority on it, god only knows!

fullbloom87 · 18/08/2023 07:50

SunWorshipping · 18/08/2023 05:59

The staff will take her baby and let her sleep if she needs to. They did for me in the night after I'd not slept in 3 days due to a long labour. I breastfed but I allowed them to give him a bottle as I wasn't safe holding him so tired. Funny you are offering as a fellow patient what do you think the ward staff are there for at night? I'd have said no to such random offer, she has no idea if you know what you are doing/are mentally sound etc. You'd be better telling the staff she's struggling so they can offer instead.

Since when do they look after babies overnight? I thought they haven't done that since the 80's?
I had very long labours with complications and not once did they offer to help. All they did was have a go at me for falling asleep once whilst feeding.

CoffeeIsTheAnswer1 · 18/08/2023 07:51

BlastedIce · 18/08/2023 07:50

So who said anyone was in hospital for the sake of it?

You’ve not had NHS maternity care, so why you think you’re an authority on it, god only knows!

I think you're just reaching for an argument with someone. Never claimed to be an expert but you read into it what you want. I find what I'm reading about postnatal care on this thread sad.

TheBestUsernamesAreGone · 18/08/2023 07:54

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I would have in the state I was in after giving birth Blush. I'd been awake for three days and had a baby who wouldn't sleep so when someone came and offered to give baby a bottle I drifted off hoping it had been a midwife who had offered? but unable to do much about it as I gave in to fatigue. I woke up an hour later feeling a bit better with my baby sleeping beside me.
OP that was a nice thought to have.

BlastedIce · 18/08/2023 07:54

CoffeeIsTheAnswer1 · 18/08/2023 07:51

I think you're just reaching for an argument with someone. Never claimed to be an expert but you read into it what you want. I find what I'm reading about postnatal care on this thread sad.

Sorry I though you were the poster who suggested the baby went to the nursery? But it can’t have been you as you’ve no knowledge of maternity care, apart from watching call the midwife, which is a little outdated now.

Was that not you?

As PP said “you ok luv?”

BlastedIce · 18/08/2023 07:56

TheBestUsernamesAreGone · 18/08/2023 07:54

I would have in the state I was in after giving birth Blush. I'd been awake for three days and had a baby who wouldn't sleep so when someone came and offered to give baby a bottle I drifted off hoping it had been a midwife who had offered? but unable to do much about it as I gave in to fatigue. I woke up an hour later feeling a bit better with my baby sleeping beside me.
OP that was a nice thought to have.

Exactly, as I said previously sleep deprivation alters everything. You did the right thing getting a sleep.

Sugarfree23 · 18/08/2023 07:56

CoffeeIsTheAnswer1 · 18/08/2023 07:43

Around 2010. I may be out of touch. Like I said, I didn't have babies in hospital myself. I had to be in with one postnatally for a couple of days, but my Dh was allowed to stay with me in a private room then, so I had help.

Nurses taking babies to a nursery wasn't really a thing in 2010, I was expecting you to say the 70s or 80s.
Depending on the hospital the nursery might still have been there but that doesn't mean to say it was used.
You are talking the UK aren't you?

It's disgusting, there are hospitals which allow partners to stay on wards overnight.
Which in turn means, women who are in a very vulnerable state just given birth, can end up sleeping on the other side of a curtain from a random bloke because hes in with the woman in the next bed. Far to much trust that all Dads are kind considerate people.

SunWorshipping · 18/08/2023 07:59

Bunnycat101 · 18/08/2023 07:28

How old are the posters children that had help at night and nurseries? I’d be pleasantly surprised if it was recent as my experience of post natal was it being like a zoo.

First birth- I remember them doing obs every hour and waking me up but no help with the baby - I phoned my husband at 1am on day 4 saying I couldn’t stay there anymore. Birth 2 I didn’t see a midwife all night- they popped in in the morning and said they’d been busy and then I got myself discharged.

I had my baby in 2021 when covid restrictions were still around. Obviously there's no nursery in a UK hospital but they took my baby for a few hours and looked after him on the nurses station in the night after I'd had him at 6pm having not slept in 3 days. I had a forceps birth and couldn't get up by myself after having an epidural, I was having to buzz them to get them to pass me him anyway. It was pretty clear I wasn't really safe to be sat in bed trying to feed so exhausted so they offered to take him.

Baby 1 I was in 1 night and never saw any staff really I was fine, although tired and could sort myself. Baby 2 I gave birth at 8am and was discharged by 12 so didn't actually spend any time there, again barely saw a member of staff. If you need the help and can't physically look after your baby they will help, if you are expecting someone to take your baby when you are otherwise fine they probably will decline given how many women they are looking after.

Lwrenagain · 18/08/2023 07:59

Mixed replies then 😁

Luckily her wee fella is catching some Zs, hopefully she'll get some and all.

I'm in absolute bliss with my baba and I'm just on cloud 9 with snuggles and smelling her etc 🙈

Thanks for all replies everyone!

OP posts:
CoffeeIsTheAnswer1 · 18/08/2023 08:02

Sugarfree23 · 18/08/2023 07:56

Nurses taking babies to a nursery wasn't really a thing in 2010, I was expecting you to say the 70s or 80s.
Depending on the hospital the nursery might still have been there but that doesn't mean to say it was used.
You are talking the UK aren't you?

It's disgusting, there are hospitals which allow partners to stay on wards overnight.
Which in turn means, women who are in a very vulnerable state just given birth, can end up sleeping on the other side of a curtain from a random bloke because hes in with the woman in the next bed. Far to much trust that all Dads are kind considerate people.

It was a private room and he wasn't allowed out except for visiting hours. No other women in the room. I agree it wouldn't have been appropriate in a shared room or ward situation.