Gross negligence? Knowingly placing an individual with TB on a barge intended for 500?

[Nevermay]

or sending anyone onto the barge at all, when it was known the water supply was contaminated with legionnaires disease?

Gross negligence? Reckless endangerment?

Any individual who contributed to the situation, placing asylum seekers on the barge while knowing either that one had TB, or that the water supply was unsafe needs to be taken to court and charged, who ever they are.

surely?

What an utterly disgusting thing to say.
and, unless you are a higher rate tax payer on significant income, you’re not paying for anything, and nor am I

We still have the channel tunnel and airports and we could step up border controls there. It's easier to control things when everyone is in one place.

Our 'invisible' earning can be done via the internet.

Sorry, my response was to @Jennygosoftly re dying in a UK hospital

It's probably a bit early for the shills to have picked up this thread. And since it's Monday I'm in a good mode, so don't mind doing their job.

(Quick heads up to to Lee Andersons PR gurus - they may want to use this).

What's so bad about TB ? We had it in the 50s and it was so healthy sleeping outside. If todays generation could drop their obsession with avocado toast, and having somewhere to live, they'd be jumping at opportunities like this.

(Quite happy for that to appear in the Express, Telegraph or to be used as a discussion point on GB News).

I have to say I must have missed the post where someone said they were a socialist. Can you tell me which one it was?

We all pay for the NHS via NI

That is the aim, see also Brexit.

You have no concept whatsoever of the basic realities of trade. How many containers do you imagine an aircraft can take by comparison with a container ship? And how can everything imported from all over the world be channelled to us via lorries driving through Europe?

We all pay for the NHS via NI

Only if you have an earned income. If you have an unearned income - say because you have a million pounds in shares and just live off the dividends - your NI bill is £0.

Mysteriously, a lot of wealthy peoples income is from dividends.

Sorry I can't help you out and sorry you missed it.

Guiltridden12345
why on earth would the French go out of their way to ‘stop the boats’ (humanity aside, like these arguments) when all it does is give their own country more migrants and more costs? Why should the French be moral, selfless, proactive...

To be fair they have accepted the cash:

In the years since 2014, the UK has made various bilateral agreements with France. Most have had associated spending commitments...

The UK committed slightly more than £232 million between 2014 and the end of financial year 2022/23, through successive published agreements with the French government:

• 2014: £12 million over three years (Joint Ministerial Declaration)
• 2015: £10 million over two years (Joint Ministerial Declaration)
• 2016: £17 million (UK–France summit Annex on migration)
• 2018: £45.5 million (Sandhurst Treaty)
• 2019: £3.25 million (Joint Action Plan)
• 2020: £28.1 million (Joint Statement)
• 2021: £54 million (Joint Statement)
• 2022: £62.2 million (Joint Statement)...

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-9681/#:~:text=The%20UK%E2%80%93France%20Joint%20Leaders,the%20French%20authorities%20in%202022.

Those people who think all the migrants should stop in France, why do you think France should take them?
I'll add an interesting little snap I got off the BBC this week.

Why are those the only alternatives? If that really is the choice, dying as a war fatality is a hell of a lot better death than drowning in your own lung secretions with TB.

But of course the alternative is that we process the claims quickly, ideally from France, weed out and return the illegal immigrants, and accept genuine refugees into the community where they can begin to contribute to our economy. Win-win all round, but the government doesn't want to do it. Instead it wants to make massively expensive empty gestures like the Rwanda nonsense and now this barge.

Actually, the way economic migration works is principally that the government grants visas to people to come and live and work here - more than ten times as many as the number who arrive by boats. Yet all the people claiming that we are full seem to ignore that fact.

Perhaps it was invisible.

But it is migrants who are the problem, not the gross inequality in the world.

To be fair they have accepted the cash:

The UK government has also taken accepted my cash and given me fuck in return. So I don't see why the French are at fault here.

If they have any sense, they will just come back and ask from some more money for the services they are already being paid for as it it's just how things are these days. You know how we are being lined to to pay an extra tax "for the NHS" or extra council tax "for the potholes".

Well something's happening in France

www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/mar/10/uk-fund-immigration-detention-centre-france-rishi-suna<a class="break-all" href="https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/mar/10/uk-fund-immigration-detention-centre-france-rishi-sunak" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">k

"return the illegal immigrants"

That's impossible when we don't know who they are or their own countries won't supply travel documents, or take them back, or won't give clearance for flights to land.

Here's a better link https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/mar/10/uk-fund-immigration-detention-centre-france-rishi-sunak

‘But it is migrants who are the problem, not the gross inequality in the world’

surely migrants exist because of the gross inequality in the world?

Yes and when I posted about rich Sheikhs I got pilloried. Why don't Labour supporters picket the Embassy's of these trillionaires?

If they did, and Jeremy Corbyn coughed, which would you never hear the end of ?

So what?

All those countries have a lot more room than we have. The German economy is booming so they can afford to take them.

These illegal migrants you refer to I assume are asylum seekers who are not granted protection. It is worth remembering that last year in the UK they would not have filled the largest village in the UK.