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AIBU?

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Guests still coming AIBU?

178 replies

Guestetiquette · 13/08/2023 19:38

So I live in a tourist area with DH and two DC. We are about to go camping for a week about four hours away. A few weeks ago BIL, wife and two kids asked when would be good to visit this month. I gave a few dates and said this weekend wouldn’t be good as we will be packing for said camping trip.

They have other friends in this area and said this weekend was the only one that worked. So i said that was fine. DH said he’d do all the camping prep (except he’s notorious for forgetting things so I will have to do it too). So then they asked if they could stay on for a couple of days after and use the house so they can see their friends. I said yes.

Then one of my parents died suddenly last week. Now we travel for the funeral the day after we get back from camping. I asked DH to cancel the visit. It was quite a stressful idea anyway and now I’m emotionally fragile. It took my three conversations with him but he did cancel. I didn’t realise that he’d said it was still fine to use the house when we have gone camping.

I had a message yesterday from SIL checking to see how I am. I said I’m overwhelmed, but ok. I listed all the things I need to do (funeral planning remotely, packing, getting stuff ready for the quick turn around when we get back - we get back from camping and then head off to the location of the funeral the next day - 6 hour drive). She is a lovely warm human being and was very empathic and then checked to see if it’s still ok to use the house. I said I didn’t realise they were still coming and really sorry I’ve not had chance to think about it and get linens etc sorted. She messaged back not to worry they are happy to make their own beds etc. no need to clean etc. Apologised - thought the brothers had been communicating. - turns out they had but badly - my DH said fine to use the house and expected BIL to get back to confirm. I assume BIL just thought the plan still stands so no need to confirm.

So I messaged SIL to ask if they have any camp beds/sleeping bags with them - no they haven’t. She has said ‘if it’s any stress we can see if we can stay in here’ - they have somewhere booked this weekend instead of staying with us.

So we have just about finished packing for holiday. I now need to try and figure out linen and send them key code etc. There are also specific instructions they need.

I am thinking though, in their position, I absolutely wouldn’t have still used the house. I would just book the other thing and say don’t worry about it. AIBU to feel a bit cornered into an added stress? DH just doesn’t get it.

To be clear they are lovely people but they are very laid back so probably don’t understand the stress of having someone else in the house.

OP posts:
nicestcelebs · 13/08/2023 19:40

YANBU and I'm really sorry for your loss.

You've just lost a parent they should be rallying around helping not using your house as a hotel.

Gizlotsmum · 13/08/2023 19:41

I wonder if because you are still going away they see it as less of an issue. It doesn’t sound like they expect beds to me made/ the house to be super clean so I would try to relax about it or let your husband sort linen etc…

VinEtFromage · 13/08/2023 19:45

Im sorry for your loss xx

i think they should have booked somewhere else to stay, but they haven't, so I'd do the absolute minimum (give them codes etc) but then leave them to it.

Clefable · 13/08/2023 19:49

I think they probably didn't think of it causing any additional stress as you aren't there. It sounds like you like and appreciate your SIL so I would be inclined to think the best of her and say that she just hasn't realised that it would cause you any stress over and above the stuff she's said they will handle. Can your DH deal with the key code and linen and whatever?

neonjumper · 13/08/2023 19:53

Sorry for your loss.

Cancel their visit. This is a very difficult time when you should be putting yourself first .

I think they are very selfish still considering this and your husband very unempathic putting the needs of others ahead of you .

neonjumper · 13/08/2023 19:55

If this visit goes ahead I can guarantee you will look back on this time and feel very angry about having to fill your headspace with arrangements for your SIL/BIL.

EhrlicheFrau · 13/08/2023 19:55

neonjumper · 13/08/2023 19:53

Sorry for your loss.

Cancel their visit. This is a very difficult time when you should be putting yourself first .

I think they are very selfish still considering this and your husband very unempathic putting the needs of others ahead of you .

I agree!
They also sound like nice enough people, from what you have said, and so will understand.

Cherrysoup · 13/08/2023 19:55

Let your Dh deal, why are you being bothered? I think the brothers haven’t properly communicated, but they need to be out when you get home and in future, tell them no unless you really want to see them, but I got very fed up when I moved to London and suddenly became very popular.

I’m sorry for your loss, I hope you’re ok.

Guestetiquette · 13/08/2023 19:57

Thank you both.

Im trying to relax about it. It means I’ll have a lot more washing to do when we get back from the funeral too. I just don’t want the extra hassle. But I’ll just go with it. I think I’d have changed plans but this bereavement has shown me that I am
far more thoughtful about other people than lots are. My plan is to be more selfish going forward. I’m sick of putting everyone else first!

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GameOverBoys · 13/08/2023 19:58

Any reasonable person would back off immediately and definitely at the first sign of resistance.

1993GoToo · 13/08/2023 19:59

Surely they will wash the bedclothes/ towels etc before you get back? Why would you do it?

Or does laid back = spectacularly selfish, to them?

Guestetiquette · 13/08/2023 19:59

Thank you all. Their visit has been cancelled but DH said they could still use the house so I’m stuck with that. I just think in their shoes I wouldn’t dream of it. But then I wouldn’t have asked in the first place!

OP posts:
1993GoToo · 13/08/2023 20:00

Give them the key code and don't worry about anything else. They can sort it

Guestetiquette · 13/08/2023 20:00

1993GoToo. I will ask them to put clean linen on for us. I know they won’t mind. They are very kind really. That’s why I’m so surprised.

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Clymene · 13/08/2023 20:01

I'm so very sorry for your loss.

Tell your husband to cancel them.

I have given my friends use of my house when I've been away and no matter how lovely they are and how much they clean up after themselves, they have always done something that irritates me.

You don't need that.

@neonjumper is right - you don't want irritation or frustration or anger at them to be the overwhelming emotion when you think back to your parent's funeral.

And yes, they absolutely should have made alternative arrangements. It's incredibly selfish to plough on with what suits them best.

BHRK · 13/08/2023 20:01

It’s not their fault though is it, it’s your husband’s for not being clear?
I think I wouldn’t let this thread wind you up. If they are usually lovely and nice then put it down to a miscommunication. She doesn’t want you to clean etc so don’t.
Sorry for your loss

Clymene · 13/08/2023 20:01

Cancel them completely! They cannot come! This is your HOME! i

neonjumper · 13/08/2023 20:03

Guestetiquette · 13/08/2023 19:59

Thank you all. Their visit has been cancelled but DH said they could still use the house so I’m stuck with that. I just think in their shoes I wouldn’t dream of it. But then I wouldn’t have asked in the first place!

Tell your husband you don't want anyone in the house whilst you are away ... you need to come back to a house the way you left it ... it's not like you are going on a jolly ... you need to come back from the funeral to your safe space that has not had others in it .

Clymene · 13/08/2023 20:04

And of course you will clean because you don't want anyone to see your pants on the floor or your slightly grubby sink or the stuff that you dumped out the boot because it takes up too much space.

You don't need to think about anyone else being in your home AT ALL.

I'm sorry, I'm getting very annoyed on your behalf as my parent died quite recently and it was really overwhelming and it wasn't a massive shock. I doubt you've even begun to process it properly.

Cloudsandrainnotsunandsand · 13/08/2023 20:06

Don't you mean dh will have laundry to do on return?

Guestetiquette · 13/08/2023 20:07

I will try and let it go. I know they will do their best but they won’t leave it clean like I’d like it.

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Guestetiquette · 13/08/2023 20:09

neonjumper Yes! That’s how I feel but couldn’t articulate it well. That made me cry!

I just feel trapped now. They are coming tomorrow so I can’t make them find somewhere else. I’ll have to just suck it up.

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Guestetiquette · 13/08/2023 20:11

Clymene I am sorry for your loss too. No. It will take a while. Thank you. I’m stuck with it now though.

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neonjumper · 13/08/2023 20:12

It's important you do this for yourself otherwise this is going to eat you up in the months to come .

When you should be putting your energy into grieving your headspace is being taken up with this .

This comes from a place of kindness and experience in supporting people with the aftermath of grief .

NewYorkFirstTimer · 13/08/2023 20:13

Tell your useless husband to sort his own relatives out. What on earth are they thinking bothering you with this shit?

Sorry for your loss OP x

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