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AIBU?

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Guests still coming AIBU?

178 replies

Guestetiquette · 13/08/2023 19:38

So I live in a tourist area with DH and two DC. We are about to go camping for a week about four hours away. A few weeks ago BIL, wife and two kids asked when would be good to visit this month. I gave a few dates and said this weekend wouldn’t be good as we will be packing for said camping trip.

They have other friends in this area and said this weekend was the only one that worked. So i said that was fine. DH said he’d do all the camping prep (except he’s notorious for forgetting things so I will have to do it too). So then they asked if they could stay on for a couple of days after and use the house so they can see their friends. I said yes.

Then one of my parents died suddenly last week. Now we travel for the funeral the day after we get back from camping. I asked DH to cancel the visit. It was quite a stressful idea anyway and now I’m emotionally fragile. It took my three conversations with him but he did cancel. I didn’t realise that he’d said it was still fine to use the house when we have gone camping.

I had a message yesterday from SIL checking to see how I am. I said I’m overwhelmed, but ok. I listed all the things I need to do (funeral planning remotely, packing, getting stuff ready for the quick turn around when we get back - we get back from camping and then head off to the location of the funeral the next day - 6 hour drive). She is a lovely warm human being and was very empathic and then checked to see if it’s still ok to use the house. I said I didn’t realise they were still coming and really sorry I’ve not had chance to think about it and get linens etc sorted. She messaged back not to worry they are happy to make their own beds etc. no need to clean etc. Apologised - thought the brothers had been communicating. - turns out they had but badly - my DH said fine to use the house and expected BIL to get back to confirm. I assume BIL just thought the plan still stands so no need to confirm.

So I messaged SIL to ask if they have any camp beds/sleeping bags with them - no they haven’t. She has said ‘if it’s any stress we can see if we can stay in here’ - they have somewhere booked this weekend instead of staying with us.

So we have just about finished packing for holiday. I now need to try and figure out linen and send them key code etc. There are also specific instructions they need.

I am thinking though, in their position, I absolutely wouldn’t have still used the house. I would just book the other thing and say don’t worry about it. AIBU to feel a bit cornered into an added stress? DH just doesn’t get it.

To be clear they are lovely people but they are very laid back so probably don’t understand the stress of having someone else in the house.

OP posts:
Totalwasteofpaper · 13/08/2023 20:16

I really think you should tell your SIL directly you dont want them to stay in ypur house and they need to make alternate arrangements.
If they need to book a hote so be it.

Your husband sounds useless and lavking emphathy i hope he gets his act together shortly.

Guestetiquette · 13/08/2023 20:17

I can’t tell them to find somewhere for tomorrow, tonight. I just can’t. I feel too awful.

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NewName122 · 13/08/2023 20:20

So sorry for your loss. It is so god damn rude of rude to still come. So selfish. I am sure you think they are lovely op but this shows what they think of you doesn't it. Talk about kicking someone when they're down. Does no one have any compassion.

NewName122 · 13/08/2023 20:23

You're going through the worst time ever. Don't feel guilty one bit for putting you first. They should have known it wasn't OK to come. You are not the rude one here.

Guestetiquette · 13/08/2023 20:24

Do you know what. My DH is a selfish shit.

OP posts:
Clymene · 13/08/2023 20:24

Guestetiquette · 13/08/2023 20:24

Do you know what. My DH is a selfish shit.

He is. I'm terribly sorry.

Guestetiquette · 13/08/2023 20:25

NewName122
I have asked if they have found out if they can stay where they are.

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GavinsFace · 13/08/2023 20:26

I am horrified these people are still using your house. All my condolences OP xx

wonkymonkey · 13/08/2023 20:29

I’m so sorry for your loss. Depending on where you live and financial resources I would send their used bed linen out for cleaning and ironing when you get back to save you a job. There are apps you can download like Laundryheap which are amazing and I use very occasionally when everything is a bit much. This definitely falls in that category. They collect and deliver in specific time slots. Ask your husband to sort out the camping stuff when you get back

Kimten · 13/08/2023 20:29

The should have cancelled outright - the thoughtless gits.
You have a DH problem too.

Condolences.

GavinsFace · 13/08/2023 20:30

I am so annoyed you have to give this any headspace at all. I want to call
these people and cancel them for you.

newnametoday11 · 13/08/2023 20:30

GavinsFace · 13/08/2023 20:26

I am horrified these people are still using your house. All my condolences OP xx

I think more of.a DH issue, if I were si l and th had said it was ok then I would assume the Ok is ok with it. I don't think there is any reason to be horrified with sil.

FloweryWowery · 13/08/2023 20:30

Why is your DH so useless that he can't pack for camping, make beds, do laundry, have a conversation with family about plans and have empathy when you've lost someone?

NewName122 · 13/08/2023 20:32

Guestetiquette · 13/08/2023 20:25

NewName122
I have asked if they have found out if they can stay where they are.

I am so sorry that you are having to deal with this. I hope you're DH is being supportive.

PurpleSteak · 13/08/2023 20:33

I think as you've decided to carry on as usual and still go camping they're taking the lead from you.

If you'd have cancelled, I'm sure it would have been fine, but they've already travelled expecting to stay there now.

Howyiz · 13/08/2023 20:36

Your husband and your in laws are all assholes but why did you not just say 'No'. I don't need any added stress, so no, you can no longer stay, at all.

Guestetiquette · 13/08/2023 20:37

PurpleSteak
i know. I’m only going because I don’t want to ruin the only holiday booked for DC. I don’t want to go anymore though.

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Misty84 · 13/08/2023 20:39

I think you’ve been too nice OP, you need to do what’s right for YOU in these circumstances.

SophiaElizabethGrace · 13/08/2023 20:39

FloweryWowery · 13/08/2023 20:30

Why is your DH so useless that he can't pack for camping, make beds, do laundry, have a conversation with family about plans and have empathy when you've lost someone?

Equally, why is he so shit that he can't put you first? Why did he not think it through himself and cancel the guests completely ? You are grieving.

It should not be down to you do anything. He's a grown adult ffs. He can pack camping things, do a list and work through it. I'm so cross on your behalf and sorry for your loss.

What is it with useless men, men who hold down a job, arrange social activities, participate on hobbies but yet can't bloody do family related planning?

Nanny0gg · 13/08/2023 20:40

The only saving grace will be if you come back to an immaculate house with clean beds and a meal waiting for you.

So sorry for your loss Flowers

Howyiz · 13/08/2023 20:40

Guestetiquette · 13/08/2023 20:37

PurpleSteak
i know. I’m only going because I don’t want to ruin the only holiday booked for DC. I don’t want to go anymore though.

So let your husband take them by himself.

Tell your in laws that plans have changed and the house is no longer available to them.

Soonenough · 13/08/2023 20:42

That is so unthinking of them to even bother you at all. Your parent has just died!!! I am so sorry for your loss. When I lost my mother , I found it hard that people were just getting on with their lives , which was unreasonable of me but that is how it can feel.
Don't know what to tell you, only you know how bothered you will be about cleaning, etc.
However , whenever I go to my friend's holiday home , I bring my own bedding and towels and bring them home with me to wash. I advised my friend to ask other guests to do so too. Nobody minds and it was a game changer for her.

Guestetiquette · 13/08/2023 20:43

Howyiz

It went like this;

I asked DH to cancel them. He was very disappointed (and irritated and grumpy) and didn’t want to. I got upset and asked for space.

Next day I asked to talk about it again. He again got frustrated. Tried to find solutions - what if we all go out for the day and give you space? - Laid on the guilt - but the DC will be so disappointed. I suggested they go to them - no because there is a relative loves with them he doesn’t get on with. I had to then very assertively say that I couldn’t cope with visitors and he needed to cancel.

Three days later he finally is going to message them and texts me to ask a question. Again telling me how VERY disappointed the DC are. I ask if they are still using the house after we leave then as he didn’t mention that.

He then cancels the visit and says nothing about them using the house any way so I assume not until text from SIL yesterday checking.

As I write it down I’m so pissed off.

OP posts:
MissBiljanaElectronika · 13/08/2023 20:45

I am so sorry for your loss, it’s a huge deal to lose a parent a makes you feel incredibly fragile

the house thing is the same in laws

tgey are all easygoing and don’t see anyone staying as work, it means they don’t even give you new sheets or clean for you, you just take things as they are. But the way I grew up (and am) is that guests deserve a clean house and clean sheets and an immaculate kitchen/bathroom. Therefore guests always cause me stress as I need to clean the house to a high stand before, and then clean again after!

it’s taken DH about two decades to see and genuinely understand why houseguests stress me (it’s so much extra work! DH is so messy and I have given up on that, but I cannot let guests have to put up with DH random piles of socks /bills/pants/half eaten snacks on every kitchen surface)

it’s bloody stressful to get a house ready for guests UNLESS you have a partner who keeps the place spotless 😁🥲

billy1966 · 13/08/2023 20:45

I am so so sorry.

This is upsetting to read.

You poor woman.

What an utter fxxking waster you are married to.

Absolutely unbelievable that anyone would continue to impose on you like that.

In your place, realising what a useless prick you are married to, I would send him off with the children on his own.

I would be looking for some space.

OP, let this really be what changes you going forward.

Not a chance in hell a decent man would behave like this.

Neither would decent in laws.

This is a dreadfully sad time for you, but you clearly need to stop being so soft when you are surrounded by such selfishness.

I'm so sorry.

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