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AIBU?

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Guests still coming AIBU?

178 replies

Guestetiquette · 13/08/2023 19:38

So I live in a tourist area with DH and two DC. We are about to go camping for a week about four hours away. A few weeks ago BIL, wife and two kids asked when would be good to visit this month. I gave a few dates and said this weekend wouldn’t be good as we will be packing for said camping trip.

They have other friends in this area and said this weekend was the only one that worked. So i said that was fine. DH said he’d do all the camping prep (except he’s notorious for forgetting things so I will have to do it too). So then they asked if they could stay on for a couple of days after and use the house so they can see their friends. I said yes.

Then one of my parents died suddenly last week. Now we travel for the funeral the day after we get back from camping. I asked DH to cancel the visit. It was quite a stressful idea anyway and now I’m emotionally fragile. It took my three conversations with him but he did cancel. I didn’t realise that he’d said it was still fine to use the house when we have gone camping.

I had a message yesterday from SIL checking to see how I am. I said I’m overwhelmed, but ok. I listed all the things I need to do (funeral planning remotely, packing, getting stuff ready for the quick turn around when we get back - we get back from camping and then head off to the location of the funeral the next day - 6 hour drive). She is a lovely warm human being and was very empathic and then checked to see if it’s still ok to use the house. I said I didn’t realise they were still coming and really sorry I’ve not had chance to think about it and get linens etc sorted. She messaged back not to worry they are happy to make their own beds etc. no need to clean etc. Apologised - thought the brothers had been communicating. - turns out they had but badly - my DH said fine to use the house and expected BIL to get back to confirm. I assume BIL just thought the plan still stands so no need to confirm.

So I messaged SIL to ask if they have any camp beds/sleeping bags with them - no they haven’t. She has said ‘if it’s any stress we can see if we can stay in here’ - they have somewhere booked this weekend instead of staying with us.

So we have just about finished packing for holiday. I now need to try and figure out linen and send them key code etc. There are also specific instructions they need.

I am thinking though, in their position, I absolutely wouldn’t have still used the house. I would just book the other thing and say don’t worry about it. AIBU to feel a bit cornered into an added stress? DH just doesn’t get it.

To be clear they are lovely people but they are very laid back so probably don’t understand the stress of having someone else in the house.

OP posts:
AlanJohnsonsBeamer · 13/08/2023 20:47

YANBU.

They shouldn't even be considering it tbh.

Sorry for your loss 💐

Guestetiquette · 13/08/2023 20:47

billy1966

Thank you. Yes. I need to be more selfish from now on.

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FirstFallopians · 13/08/2023 20:48

I’m sorry you’re going through this OP.

I’m shocked at your DH and his extended family. It’s fair to say for 99% of the population, upon hearing that someone had lost a parent, they’d expect that all upcoming plans with said person would be cancelled. You wouldn’t text them saying “Oh btw, are you still happy to do that favour for me? Xx”

You sound like a nice, caring person, and you deserve a lot better.

Hevasparkle · 13/08/2023 20:48

YANBU.
if I were your SIL I’d have taken hint from your message that it’s too overwhelming right now and offered/insisted on making alternative arrangements, not offered solutions re the bed linen. She asked if it was still ok to stay and any other answer than “yes it’s fine” signals that it’s not appropriate!
so sorry for your loss. You come first here

londonrach · 13/08/2023 20:50

Yanbu. Sorry for your loss..they stay elsewhere...it's not right now

Peachy2005 · 13/08/2023 20:51

So sorry for your loss @Guestetiquette

You absolutely can tell them tonight they need to find somewhere for tomorrow: that’s what Booking.com and Hotels.com are brilliant for.

Guestetiquette · 13/08/2023 20:51

Hevasparkle · Today 20:48
YANBU.
if I were your SIL I’d have taken hint from your message that it’s too overwhelming right now and offered/insisted on making alternative arrangements, not offered solutions re the bed linen. She asked if it was still ok to stay and any other answer than “yes it’s fine” signals that it’s not appropriate!

Yeah. I was quite surprised to be honest.

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panko · 13/08/2023 20:52

Your DH is an arse

mindutopia · 13/08/2023 20:52

Guests when you’re away means more tidying and sorting out before you go and when you get back. Even simple things like tidying stuff out of the fridge that’s old (but you might just leave) or cleaning the toilets. And I don’t know about everyone else’s house guests, but mine leave an absolute mess every time, crumbs, muddy footprints. MIL left tonight after a weekend visit and I’ll be up mopping the bloody floors til 11pm because there are muddy foot/paw prints all over downstairs.

No way I wouldn’t have cancelled if it was me as a guest. I would have found somewhere else to stay or gone home early. Dh, on the other hand, has weird hang ups about disappointing people. If someone said we could stay and their parent passed, he would still want to go because he can’t bloody be forthright with anyone and would think they would take offence and he just wants to make everyone happy. No amount of explaining that they will be happy if we cancel would ever convince him otherwise! 😩

Guestetiquette · 13/08/2023 20:53

panko · Today 20:52
Your DH is an arse

Yes. I think you are right.

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panko · 13/08/2023 20:53

Hevasparkle · 13/08/2023 20:48

YANBU.
if I were your SIL I’d have taken hint from your message that it’s too overwhelming right now and offered/insisted on making alternative arrangements, not offered solutions re the bed linen. She asked if it was still ok to stay and any other answer than “yes it’s fine” signals that it’s not appropriate!
so sorry for your loss. You come first here

I agree but presumably she asked her DH who probably told her OP's DH assured him its fine

panko · 13/08/2023 20:54

And so sorry for your loss 💐

Grumpy101 · 13/08/2023 20:54

You are far too accommodating and giving too many explanations. Your DH is an arse. Cancel the whole thing, "sorry we have too much going on right now. If you'd lost your mum, you'd understand." End of.

Times like these really highlight how shit some people are. I'm sorry to say but my mum's cancer accelerated my divorce. My 'D'H was so self centered, it shocked me. He had always been selfish but I was operating under a misguided belief that he would really be there for me if I needed him. He wasn't and it forced me to take a hard look at my relationship.

SmellsLikeTeenSpirits · 13/08/2023 20:55

YANBU. I can't think of a single person I know who would still rock up in this scenario. It does sound like your DH may have been encouraging them to come still though so they may be confused. Your DH has been incredibly insensitive and I would be really disappointed in him. But even if my BIL was still saying to my DH that we could come I would be phoning you to say that of course we weren't going to be staying at yours - but as we were in the area is there anything we can do.

I am sorry for your loss and sending hugs.

Guestetiquette · 13/08/2023 20:55

mindutopia

Yes. I think DH is struggling to let them down. Which I get. But what really hurts is that he’d rather cause me stress at such difficult time, than put his friends out.

OP posts:
Howyiz · 13/08/2023 20:55

Guestetiquette · 13/08/2023 20:43

Howyiz

It went like this;

I asked DH to cancel them. He was very disappointed (and irritated and grumpy) and didn’t want to. I got upset and asked for space.

Next day I asked to talk about it again. He again got frustrated. Tried to find solutions - what if we all go out for the day and give you space? - Laid on the guilt - but the DC will be so disappointed. I suggested they go to them - no because there is a relative loves with them he doesn’t get on with. I had to then very assertively say that I couldn’t cope with visitors and he needed to cancel.

Three days later he finally is going to message them and texts me to ask a question. Again telling me how VERY disappointed the DC are. I ask if they are still using the house after we leave then as he didn’t mention that.

He then cancels the visit and says nothing about them using the house any way so I assume not until text from SIL yesterday checking.

As I write it down I’m so pissed off.

Tell him to fuck off, take the kids away by himself and cancel his family staying and if there is anymore heinous behaviour from him that you will be speaking to a lawyer.

Honestly, I wouldn't live with someone who treated me so poorly. And the fact that you think your dickhead in laws are 'lovely people' when their behaviour screams otherwise speaks to the level of disrespect you have put up with for far too long.

FirstFallopians · 13/08/2023 20:56

Honestly OP you’re giving the impression that you feel slightly unreasonable about feeling this way, when it is them that should be fucking mortified at their selfishness.

If I didn’t cancel, I know that I would resent them for their thoughtlessness and selfishness forever. If they’ve got such thick skin that they don’t realise how much of an imposition it is to ask this of you, they’ll quickly get over being asked to find alternative accommodation.

Jumbojade · 13/08/2023 20:57

Has your dh lost any of his parents? In my experience I have found that many spouses/partners don’t realise how awful a loss like this is, if they haven’t experienced it themselves.

I still remember when my df died (over 25 years ago). I had been to see my dm to help with arrangements etc. When I came home I sat down and tried to speak to my ‘d’h and his response was “can I just finish watching (tv) this first!”

Your dh should be trying to support you in any way he can. In your case he should have immediately cancelled all of your bil/sil’s visit, never mind needing 3 conversions to do so! You have far too much else going on just now, to give their using your house any headspace. However, I would have expected sil to have the emotional intelligence to have cancelled, when you said to her that you didn’t realise they were still coming.

Guestetiquette · 13/08/2023 20:57

SmellsLikeTeenSpirits: I would be phoning you to say that of course we weren't going to be staying at yours - but as we were in the area is there anything we can do.

Yes. Me too.

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Coffeetree · 13/08/2023 21:00

I'm sorry for your loss OP.

For the present, text SIL and say something to the effect of, "I'm getting increasingly overwhelmed with the bereavement and need space and privacy now. Please make arrangements to stay elsewhere."

Your children will bear any disappointment. When my grandfather died, my mum's world just stopped and as a kid I respected that. As an adult I respect it even more.

As for your husband, are his parents still alive? If so he can go whine to them. You can decide what to do about him later.

Janieforever · 13/08/2023 21:00

I am sorry for your loss. And I think grief and emotional state is driving some of your posts and insults at your husband, as you are going on holiday and won’t be there, I think they likely assumed it wouldn’t be an issue, as you won’t be there, if you were, I’d expect them to check, but as it’s an empty house, I’d also have assumed no issue.

NancyJoan · 13/08/2023 21:00

The mad thing is, they could just go home. They aren’t stranded abroad with nowhere to stay, they’ve already had the weekend with their friends, and could just cut their trip short. It’s very thoughtless.

Guestetiquette · 13/08/2023 21:01

Jumbojade

No, he hasn’t. Did your DH look back and apologise?

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frenchfancy55 · 13/08/2023 21:02

I am so sorry for your loss.

I lost a parent suddenly last year and the thought of anyone coming and staying in my house at that time would have been unbearable.

Your DH, BIL and SIL should understand that their visit is not happening now. Agree with PP that this will eat you up in the future if it was to go ahead.

Put yourself first and take care of yourself.

nicestcelebs · 13/08/2023 21:03

I think they were bloody cheeky planning it on a weekend that you had already explained wasn't convenient for you and going with it because it was convenient for their friends!

That's before the rest of it.

They sound like users.