Mother of Star Hobson does not deserve sympathy

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Am I being unreasonable to be absolutely sickened by this article? I get that this man is traumatised by what happened to his family, but how could anyone be so blinded as to see Star's mother as some sort of innocent victim? She was a cruel and neglectful mother who was too infatuated with her new partner to protect her baby daughter. Yes, I know she has a low IQ and learning difficulties. However, to use this as a constant excuse is an absolute insult to the many, many people in this country with learning difficulties (many of whom are parents) who would never, ever think it is acceptable to stand by and watch whilst their child is horrifically abused.

This documentary explains a lot.

Awful. They’ll be married within the year I bet

Brockhill was a bouncer, fighter and traveller. She mentioned her down culture and what they do. I'm not saying what she did is what all travellers do but her culture is clearly very important to her and they whole toughing up Children.

Each time she hurt poor star, star was OK in the sense she didn't die or need attention.

So one can imagine it just escalating and her sort of becoming immersed in that world.

When I was 16 a very dodgy bloke fancied me and I sort of fancied him. Our date was hanging out in town looking at cars to steal. He was literally trying to open them as we walked along.

For a few hours I felt cool, walking on the wild side.

I think I saw him a couple more times before I came to my senses.
Strange as it may sound I think Brockhill was so so confident and assured that Smith did fall in with it.

I actually have noticed quite a lot in life just how powerful these incredible self assured people are esp when they talk in a certain way.

There is one at work, definitely not nasty or a killer liked Brockhill but definitely not that bright and yet very bright colleagues (some) really think she's something... I've got a relative like this also.

I will not read the article. The biggest issue here is clearly the Daily Fail and their awful so called “journalism”

And with every "case closed/malicious allegation" it would cement her position even more and make it seem "not that bad".

Ew all this talk that she is a victim is disgusting 🤢 Love your kids protect your kids the shop keeper tried to tell mine off I told him to shut the duck up don’t know one tell my kids off or put your hands on them about having a low iq what’s that got to do with anything ew and how she only got 8 years just mysterious bruises she should be serving life I feel sad for the grandparents because they love star ⭐️ a lot she was a beautiful baby who didn’t deserve that as her mother to allow such filth round her own precious baby

Sociopaths like Savannah Brockhill think that they will be able to get away with heinous crimes because of their belief that they are cleverer than everyone else and won't be found out. A lot of killers are like this.

I found it so hard to imagine how Star spent her nights in Savannah's car whilst she was at work when she should have been at home, tucked up in bed like any other child.

I don't doubt that FS may also have sociopathic tendencies. She clearly didn't have any empathy for Star. But I don't think Star would have come to harm if FS hadn't met SB.

Her sentence was increased to 12 years. So she's likely to serve about 6.

This is horrific, that photo of the bruise on her little face :(

Being infatuated and ‘losing interest’ in your daughter is low but letting her get abused is absolutely next level. It’s basic human decency to look after any child not just your own, regardless of IQ.

I think social services do bear a lot of the responsibility here. It's like Maria Colwell all over again....

I wonder if she had a low IQ naturally

What do you mean by that ? Do you mean was it caused by Foetal Alcohol Syndrome as opposed to being caused by a chromosome disorder or some congenital defect? We do know that she was brought up by her grandparents so maybe there were issues with drugs or alcohol. We don't know for sure. If someone lacks capacity to care for their child and protect them from abuse I am not sure if the cause of her learning impairment makes a huge difference. I don't know though as my knowledge on LD is limited. Mental health I do know about but not so much LD.

If anything I think allowing your partner to murder your innocent baby is worse than murder. A mother who colludes with the abuser is as low as you can get. She knew what was going on was wrong and she went along with it. I have no sympathy for her. A young child could tell you that punching a baby is wrong.

@FiveOClockWorld they do. Several failures have been identified in the case review, including the lack of involvement during and after birth.

Makes me so angry. Why does nothing ever seem to change?

Yes, my son was born under police guard due to similar (but not as tragic) circumstances. His birth parents were never allowed contact.

She knew what was going on was wrong and she went along with it.

The worst of the abuse was happening when Savannah was 'babysitting' Star overnight when Star should have been at home in bed. FS did actually question SB in telephone calls about why Star was coming home so bruised. It was established in court that when Star was with her mother, she wasn't getting injured. The injuries were happening in the car at night. And the jury felt that FS wasn't in the room when SB inflicted Star's fatal injury.

None of this means that she wasn't a terrible, neglectful mother. But I feel that social services is more to blame when it must have been obvious that FS was an unfit mother. Especially when her own family were calling SS and they repeatedly did nothing.

I'm of the opinion that the pandemic made certain people feel they didn't want to do their jobs properly.

I'm of the opinion that the pandemic made certain people feel they didn't want to do their jobs properly.

Agree wholeheartedly. But I'd add that it still goes on now. Covid lockdowns definitely saw some of the worst of it though

I just cannot wrap my head around why somebody would beat up a baby?

What reasons did Savannah give? How did her lawyers justify the attacks on a tiny child?

Why is there a whole slice of the population who want to seriously wound or kill tiny, defenceless children?

I mean ok most of the population are horrified but these killings are depressingly regular. And I think historically always have been, there have always been people who kill babies and kids ie the baby farmers in Victorian Britain.

Is it all down to anti social personality disorder, or something else?

@Elizadoloads thankyou xxx

@HmmOk anyone who can harm a defenceless child is highly likely to have ASPD. I don't think SB has ever admitted what she did to end Star's life. It was theorised that SB was jealous of Star. Or that she killed Star to hurt FS, who had told SB their relationship was over that day.

But who really knows?

@Elizadoloads

I followed the trial at the time and all the reports. This u tune video is very good, do you know what this lady is does it for.

If this creature were not photogenic, I doubt people would be expressing sympathy. I heard none for Baby P's mother. They both stood by and concealed and participated in the abuse and death of their children both had low IQ, but the narrative around them is so different.

U tube lady is also gunning for sw missed opportunities.
She says people do get malicious reports but 5 desperately people reported them.

The circumstances were different. FS was only 18. So not much more than a child herself. Her family reported her still playing with dolls. She probably does lack empathy but has expressed remorse for what happened to Star.

Totally agree with everyone you’ve said. The only victim here is Star. Have no pity for that pathetic excuse of a mother.