I have no words - woman now stranded after wanting to give birth in St Lucia (on the beach...)

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https://www.nottinghampost.com/news/uk-world-news/new-mum-stranded-after-being-8669669

What on earth were they thinking??

@RedToothBrush I am crying 😭
This is inspired: “Clive had forgotten to charge his mobile phone” 🤦‍♀️

Do you reckon Dave deliberately drove down the dual carriageway and set Clive up? Afterall, even the judge said they couldn’t fathom how it wasn’t bleeding obvious.

Has anyone found a divorce from the woman Clive married in 2003?
I suspect he may not have got around to the divorce paperwork and any ‘marriage’ to Yullia is of the none legally binding variety.
Not insurmountable but seems to add an extra tier of paperwork when registering birth - affidavit needed that he’s the dad if you haven’t got marriage certificate.
They need Clive as dad on birth certificate for British passport purposes if she isn’t a British Citizen. If she is a British Citizen then just registering her as mum would be quicker I’d have thought. Then apply to add Clive when safely back home.

I'm ROFL.
Felt a twinge of guilt because these are real people but nah. They deserve it

I'm now getting banner ads from BA offering me holidays in Grenada.

@VanWeezer “The DNA test was probably really hard to get. To prove nationality, you also have to be really sure who is being tested so need documentation. With all the name changes that will be a nightmare. So it's not just a simple swap and send it off to the nearest lab. The lab would also need to be acceptable to the British government, so more likely it would have to be sent abroad as the islands seem fairly small.”

A DNA test looks pretty easy to get in Grenada, there’s a lab in the capital, 3-5 working days. Whatever name changes have gone on, they must have passports in a name. I see no reason why the British government (via the HC in Grenada) wouldn’t accept a Grenada lab result. In fact, in terms of diplomatic relations if I were Grenada I’d be unimpressed if my diplomatic counterpart threw shade on my country’s lab.

Even if it had to be a British-based lab, if I were Clive and Iuliia I’d spend the £380 on the Grenada lab anyway, because they also need to do local birth registration and at this point, I’d rack up all possible proof.

I went to a girls high school in Tameside, wondering if any of my old classmates will pop up as the first Mrs Clive!

The article is vague on the dna test.
We are assuming they want the test. If Clive doesn’t as he’s not the dad/doesn’t want his dna in govt system (loving the expression freetwat of the land) then it explains the delay getting test and sailing off to another country.

@Dixiechickonhols I can assure that no-one is going to pop up and claim that mistaken period of their lives now 🤣

Tameside is east side of Manchester, and The One Who Wisely Got Out lived with him on the west side.

If you're pregnant you should go for it.

I've heard the waves are a natural pain relief and what could possibly go wrong 🤔

It’s quite funny really - cos genuinely, the Venn diagram crossover between people who are Freetwats, who think the sea “frequency” makes child birth painless, and who would hate the state to have their DNA has got to be really high, no?!

Has anyone checked if Grenada can issue a birth certificate for a baby not born there? Or is it dna test Grenada and they’ll still need to register in St Lucia.

This story caught my eye as I live in Rodney Bay St Lucia. I was at a large dinner party last night and nobody mentioned this story and nor had I heard about it. These people acted in a very stupid manner. We have at leat 3 GP surgeries in Rodney Bay and I am amazed they did not consult any GP on their arrival. It is extremely hot here at present and the thought of delivering your baby on the beach here is unthinkable. All beaches in St Lucia are public beaches although some hotels try to,pretend their beach is private. They went to the free hospital which is for poor Lucians but there is a private hospital where they could have consulted a private doctor. All in all these people acted on a romantic dream and I cannot feel sorry for them.

I looked on the local news websites and there was nothing.

“It is extremely hot here at present and the thought of delivering your baby on the beach here is unthinkable. All beaches in St Lucia are public beaches”

@Lapun baby was due in April though, so cooler? Also, they never planned a beach in St Lucia - Plan A was Martinique and Plan B was Grenada. They were so not keen on St Lucian beaches that they activated Plan C - on the boat!

I’m not surprised they went to the free hospital not private - they just wanted to tick an admin box not get medical support.
Also it has “European Union” in the name, so that might have attracted them?

The news reports I've read indicate they flew to Martinique with the intention of sailing to St Lucia and for her to birth her dd there.

They travelled to Grenada because of hurricane season and didn't go until 20th June. So 2 months after the birth.

Why did they change their minds about giving birth in Martinique? I can't find anything online other than the one news report hashed out a million times!

I can assure that no-one is going to pop up and claim that mistaken period of their lives now 🤣

Quite excited you've spotted The One Who Wisely Got Out.

Crossing everything thing the story breaks and she puts her 2p in.

It’s not unheard of for a baby not be registered. There’s loads of clear info on .gov.uk

🤦‍♀️ Clive and Iuliia

Examples there where some countries don’t have birth registration or it wasn’t possible (war I suppose is an obvious)

There’s a whole section on what the Consulate or HC or Passport office should do - all of which I’m sure the officials in this case know. The Consulate and HC are even allowed to issue their own BC, though they must follow local law.

The U.K. will have issued passports to children who are children not babies, born in war zones years earlier. It seems very clear that there isn’t a bureaucratic nightmare here, but an escalation to a senior decision maker to decide what evidence is needed. I expect that evidence to establish place of birth could include my iPhone assigning a GPS based location to the photo I took of my baby with umbilical cord attached. Or cross referencing the view of the harbour in the background. Or getting a verifiable co-ordinate from another yacht in the same photo whose registration was visible. There will be a real person, not a computer, making that decision - I am sure.

I expect that the HC in Grenada can do it, but they need to stay very close to their diplomatic partners on how they do it.

I’m sure it’s very easy to verify that Iuliia has recently given birth. The DNA test is just one piece of the evidence, and they should have done that months ago.

@itsgettingweird these are pretty specific, but I don’t trust any journalists. I can’t access the original story sold on by SWNS unfortunately!

Just to add to the confusion. There are images of them on, what seem like, two different boats. There is a video of them on a catamaran, you can clearly see the two hulls. But also a photo of what looks more like a monohull. Did they switch boats, if so when? Also both of these types of boats cost thousands of pounds a week to rent. They also took the time to add a SUP to the rental (the big red board in the background of the shots). Maybe she wanted to do ocean SUP yoga?

It’s not looking good for St Lucia’s tourist board though… I mean, 9 hours sailing from Martinique to Grenada, right past St Lucia… but they didn’t choose the beaches there.
No wonder St Lucia said fuck you to registering the birth! They’re probably quite offended on behalf of their beautiful beaches 🤣

Why is there only the one story? I am amazed that something this unusual hasnt attracted more media attention!

Limited numbers of international reporters in the Caribbean; and those that are there have better things to do?

I'm surprised too

That’s how it works. It’s a minor story. It has no public importance at all - it’s only been sold on from the original news agency so many times because it’s clickbait joy. People love a bit of schadenfreude - or plain eye rolling at idiots.

Most likely Clive sold the story to SWNS news agency.

They made it available to buy.

Lots of outlets bought it.

Still more probably just copied it for free and if any of those are big and reachable SWNS will threaten legal action.

Now we have a lot more questions for Clive and Iuliia. But let’s face it - they’re all on a theme of, “why were you both such selfish, arrogant entitled dicks?” so they’re not going to give us an interview, are they? 😀

What more is there to cover?

Despite the fun theorising here, there’s no drugs / surrogacy / trafficking scandal for someone to win a Pulitzer over. Just an every day tale of dimwits!