So many child haters here

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So many threads on here seem to attract the same sort of answer along the lines of
-In my day we'd have got a smack. Never did me any harm. Give em a clip round the ear.
-kids today are entitled shrieky brats
-kids should stand for adults
-kids shouldn't be allowed in restaurants

Yet often those same posters are the first to call "agism" when people disagree.
Why do so many people hold such contempt for kids?
I mean I know kids can be annoying but honestly you could say that about any group of people. Plus we were all kids once 🤷

It’s mostly bad/lax parenting people object to. Letting DC run around in restaurants, letting them scream indoors, letting them sit with an iPad on full volume in a restaurant etc That’s about the parents not the child. Even the not standing for adults thing is about the parents - it’s easy to pop your child on your knee and free up a seat.

I love children on the whole bit have no tolerance for badly behaved ones with no manners even though it is their useless parent's fault

I think Ur right OP
I've noticed it to be a very British thing. In the middle east or North Africa or Asia, people tend to fawn over the kids and go out of their way to engage them. Infact they will happily stop what they are doing and play with them.
Whereas in GB children are expected to be seen and not heard. GB is very anti family imo. Little regard for the young or elderly. Very individualistic culture.

Yeh this is worse than stuff in the op

Agree with @Saoirse82 for the full on posts

Not so long ago there was a thread where parents said they would use their step kids as a human shield/step over them/step on them to rescue their children in a fire

That's low, even for MN.

I don’t like kids. (I have two). I didn’t like kids when I was a kid

Come off it OP. People don't hate ALL kids - just the badly behaved ones.

Even the not standing for adults thing is about the parents - it’s easy to pop your child on your knee and free up a seat.

Easy to pop a little toddler on your knee, yes.

Not a ruddy great 6 or 7 year old, for a 90 minute train journey.

Well, people aren't like to start a thread about how they were in a restaurant and the children at the next table were wonderfully behaved, or they were on a bus and the child behind didn't start kicking their feet.

It's similar to the ways MILs and husbands are represented here - people only post when there's an issue so you don't hear about harmonious family relationships.

Agree that so many people on here seem to actively dislike kids. It's like they see it as a place to complain to mums in general about random people's kids that annoyed them once.

No it just makes them less selfish for the needs of their own family/children, not anyone else. Sick of people thinking that having children suddenly makes you selfless as a whole, it doesn't.

I think that most of the behaviour that really winds people up is down to the parents ignoring their children. They’re on their phone or talking to another adult so the children are left to entertain themselves.

Correct.

Catsnhats11

I didn't actually say having children makes you selfless!

I said there's a rise in childfree adults and that i feel it goes hand in hand with rising selfishness/individualism.

Ie the two are correlated but not necessarily that there's clear causality.

This!

So many people have rose tinted glasses about their own children. Apparently, my DH and his siblings never had a tantrum (they did, I’ve known the youngest long enough to remember them!). My mum has had to correct my grandma for tutting at a lady with a screaming toddler in the supermarket and remind her that she personally witnessed her younger siblings doing exactly the same thing.

I have kids, teach kids and have been a kid.
Apples don't fall far from trees so I don't hate badly behaved children. Just their parents.

I totally understand that and obviously it’s not an option then. It’s the people who adopt a ‘my child is just as entitled to a seat as you are’ attitude when they could pop a two year old onto their knee for five minutes that annoy people.

But id disagree in part anyway, having my own children I feel has made me much more accepting of normal child behaviour and much more socially responsible about children. I helped a young girl who was very travel sick on a ferry ride recently as her parent was busy struggling with her sibling, no way would have stepped into help in that way before i had my own kids. I suppose you become aware that you'd want other grown ups to be kind and helpful to your own kids and so become willing to do that for other people's children.

Why is it covids fault tho? Because kids weren't in school so at them ercy of parents more and parents are generally awful and rely on teachers to make their kids nice?

Love kids. Hate lax and lazy parenting.

I don't like parents not being willing to acknowledge that their child can misbehave, and do nothing about it.

They are the ones who suffer the most when the children they made no effort to instil reasonable behaviour when young, turn out to be the worst teenagers of all. You only have to be affected once on one day, they have it every day later on.

Children are like farts... Your own are lovely but just can't abide other people's

people desperately having to validate their own choice to be childfree. You know, those people who say they're happy but really they aren't. There's quite a lot of childfree people on here.

Oh stop. Those childfree people are not the problem, its the narc parents who feel that their little darlings dont need any rules or who are too lazy or glued to their phones to correct or discipline them.

When I’m walking my dog I often step to the side to let groups of teens on bikes go past and so many of them say thank you when MAMIL just take it as their due. There are lots of mothers of teenaged boys doing a great job round my way.

What utter shite