So many child haters here

[Sabrinasummersamples]

So many threads on here seem to attract the same sort of answer along the lines of
-In my day we'd have got a smack. Never did me any harm. Give em a clip round the ear.
-kids today are entitled shrieky brats
-kids should stand for adults
-kids shouldn't be allowed in restaurants

Yet often those same posters are the first to call "agism" when people disagree.
Why do so many people hold such contempt for kids?
I mean I know kids can be annoying but honestly you could say that about any group of people. Plus we were all kids once 🤷

Some of us would, nappies and all. Not many on this thread admittedly and that’s fine too.

I think child haters is actually an unfair term for what you are describing.
I love children. But i don't love when people allow their children to run amok and have no respect at all for anyone else.
I was in tesco one day and a little boy ran at me and almost ran into me not once, not twice but three times while his mum just kind of stood there.
I understand totally that we all need to create a kind and loving society for children to grow and thrive in and happy as I am to play my part in that, the parents also need to understand that its not pleasant or nice or funny when exoeriences are totally ruined by children with no respect for boundaries or consequences of actions.

The thing is @ANiceBigCupOfTea I'd agree with you that that IS very annoying. The thing I can't understand though is when people have, say, 1 experience like that, and think that means that kids are awful or even parents are awful. I bet you also experienced another 200 kids in the weeks either side of that whose behaviour you didn't notice, because they were well behaved and therefore didn't draw attention.
I'm not saying I think YOU are a child hater btw. I'm sure you're not. But there are a lot of people on mumsnet who would use a single experience like that, or even 2 or 3 to suggest all kids / families are horrible badly behaved brats

Also I come across times where families are blamed for having kids places where others don't think kids should be. I think as long as they're well behaved kids should be allowed in most places (as long as it's safe / not inappropriate obviously)

An example is my gym. There is a male changing room, a female one and a "family" one.
There are 4 showers, and no seats in the family one. The female one has 16 showers, and benches around the whole room, as well as seats at dressing tables.

The gym runs kids swimming lessons at set times and sometimes has 3 lessons of 6 kids at once. Thats at least 18 people needing 4 showers at the same time.
Now I have boys so I can't take advantage but if I had daughters I'd absolutely take them into the famale room. If places don't want people to do that sort of thing then they have to make the family facilities equivalent.

YABU

And a bit hysterical, if I may say so. People who expect parents to actually parent are not child haters.

71% agree at this stage so I think you'll have to accept that's the democratic view!

Hysterical? Wow. That's a nice bit of misogyny there. I assume you think it's all the fault of the mothers then that kids today are a bunch of "entitled brats"

Sabrinasummersamples · Today 16:01
Hysterical? Wow. That's a nice bit of misogyny there. I assume you think it's all the fault of the mothers then that kids today are a bunch of "entitled brats"

QED

I rest my case....