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If you have a big lovely house and you don't work.... AIBU?

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Noangelbuthavingfun · 10/08/2023 16:23

Lighthearted ... walked the dog today. Walked a new route and into a lovely neighbourhood...private road... massive big houses with front gardens and even bigger back gardens...beautiful and houses I could only dream of.
So it had me thinking about what's inside .... of course this isn't reality for everyone but....answer me this:
If YOU live in one of these big beautiful houses (let's just assume it's whatever YOU consider to be big) and you have the lifestyle that means your partner/OH works...long hours let's say, but you have the kids and you get to shop or go to the gym daily, ho for coffee with your girlfriends etc... ARE YOU HAPPY? TRULY HAPPY?
If you are...what makes you happy?
If you are NOT happy...what's the reason?

I'm asking as it would be a fairy tale for me to live in a beautiful house like this, not having to work, but we never will and I have to work full time for our modest 3 bed semi. I'm jealous of you if you are lucky enough to have this lifestyle...BUT on balance I'm happy, so is the grass greener? AIBU to be jealous?

Discuss! And if you are in MY boat, what fo YOU think of this lifestyle ?

OP posts:
letsdonextweek · 11/08/2023 08:14

RantyAnty · 11/08/2023 03:03

Not working and relying on a man sounds dull and like a fairy tale.

It's much more rewarding to have bought the house without a man.

It also makes me happy to have a career I love.

That's very judgmental. Just because something makes you happy, doesn't mean it will for everyone else. A job for me is extremely dull.

I bought my house with my husband and I also own my old house before we met which is in my name only, now rented. I've been a stay at home mum for 8 years now.

Pipsquiggle · 11/08/2023 08:31

FrillyGoatFluff · 11/08/2023 08:08

I am in that position. It's driving me fucking bananas.

I haven't worked properly for four years - 1.5 has been maternity, 2.5 has been dealing with a host of shitstormery when we inherited my two stepdaughters in very dramatic circumstances.

DH works, and I do the rest. Although I do freelance bits (quickly, squeezed in) and am financially self sufficient so not entirely a non-worker, but I find I am always rammed because everyone dumps all their shit onto me.

All the drama lands on my plate because I'm 'available'. Wouldn't happen if I was at work everyday. Today I have a whole house to clean, a garden to prep and an 18th birthday party to shop for tomorrow, party food to prepare, a cake to bake and ice, a vicar to meet with my dad and stepmum for my nans funeral (sister is exempt, she's too busy obviously) which I've been told to schedule three hours for, a phone to pick up in town ten miles away and the general day-to-day to do as well. And a toddler, and a 12 yo to lug about and manage.

I'd much rather be sat in my home office, running a couple of meetings like my DH will be!

@FrillyGoatFluff

I think you have described it really well, the kinds of things you have described I did when I didn't work. I resented those tasks being my main focus and also I really, really hate cleaning.

I do know epic SAHPs, they thrive on all the activities you have mentioned. They are so organised and love it. They tend to live in smaller houses so there is little to no concern (that I am aware of) of just 1 salary coming in. Good on them, they love it and make it work for their families.

digthoseholes · 11/08/2023 08:37

I have a beautiful five bedroom house and someone comes in four days a week to look after the housework (and our dogs!). However I work full time and my salary pays the bills. I do however hate working and often dream about quitting and staying at home. In my day dreams though I go back to university and study something fascinating but completely pointless. Would definitely need a "purpose" otherwise I would quickly revert to a teenager getting up in the afternoon and going to bed too late

Onnonotagainhuh · 11/08/2023 08:45

I live in what I consider a big house and an a sahm to a pre-schooler. I love it. Yes I am truly happy.

I am with dc all day and they no longer nap, so it's hard to keep on top of the housework though. We don't have staff. I wouldn't want a bigger house than we have. I hated my office job and love caring for my dc. When dc are at school I daresay I'll work again but I'd rather not!

Sistersflowers · 11/08/2023 08:49

I grew up in a house like this on the road in my home town that was the most desirable and people would say ooh you live in name road! six bedrooms and servants quarters attached, though we didn’t have servants and went to state school. But both my parents worked, big house was sold when stepfather died, I was 18.

DH grew up in a very large house in Surrey and they had a FT housekeeper, his Mother didn’t work and his Father was financial director of a multinational company. He went to a very prestigious public school. When he was 17 the company went bankrupt. He always said when the money ran out the love died and his parents divorced when he was 21 and the very beautiful house was sold. The last time it sold was at least a decade ago and that was for 2 million. My childhood home was converted in to 5 two bedroom apartments. Last time I looked one had sold for close to 200k, that was years ago.

Two of my friends live in these kind of houses. One is blissfully happy and the other is about to divorce. We do live on a lovely road, one of the most desirable in our town. There is a row of four of us built in the 1920’s, I think an orchard was infilled amongst the very large houses. So we live in a lovely neighbourhood but in one of the smallest houses on our road, it’s a big three bed semi with a larger than average garden so not exactly a hovel.

We will both be retired by 56 and will not need to downsize when DS leaves home next year. We made the choice not to go for the big house as it would have been a stretch and instead chose early retirements and lots of holidays. We are very comfortable but not rich enough to have both early retirement and a big house like the ones we grew up in and we knew it.

NeedToChangeName · 11/08/2023 09:06

My friend lives in a large house, all financed by her DH. And he never lets her forget it. She is unhappy, but stays for the lifestyle

Violinist64 · 11/08/2023 09:39

Ragwort · 11/08/2023 07:02

Not everyone has a job or career that they love, you only have to read the threads on here about 'do you love your job?' to realise that. And when people talk about their satisfying careers and purposeful lives are they really referring to an admin job in the local council office (no offence intended) or one of those mythical Mumsnet jobs where £50k is not seen as a high salary Hmm?
I think some people are happy not working .. and some are happy working ... but to assume that the only fulfillment in life is by earning money is a very limited viewpoint... I am about to retire .. it will be interesting to see how society 'views' me or will I become worthless because I am economically inactive?

I couldn’t agree with you more. I have been very blessed in my career as a self-employed musician. I have worked peripatetically in schools but mostly privately from my home, which was great when my own children were growing up. I am semi retiring now and looking forward to the next stage in my life.

purpleboy · 11/08/2023 09:47

@Noangelbuthavingfun I started off cleaning houses, then as I got more clients I found people to work for me, it didn't take long to build it up to a pretty big business, I stopped cleaning myself and trained to be a yoga teacher, I hired halls etc and got a lot regulars, it was bringing in ok money on top of the money from cleaning business, I then started doing overseas yoga retreats, they started off making between £5-£7k a pop and so I increased these and did them monthly, it was around this time I bought a bigger property, it had a huge garage which I converted into a yoga/Pilates studio, I then hired this out to other teachers and continued to do the retreats which were growing and I was able to do these a couple of times a month. I have an indoor swimming pool which we have hired out for swimming lessons. I had experience in wedding planning from an early job, so I set up a business planning weddings and parties, I had to work this around the retreats but as the reputation grew, so did our client list. We landed a couple of big clients early on which increased our profile, and we had more enquiries than we could handle so we expanded and broke off into smaller areas, i had people managing each area so I just kept on top off it all.

This is a very condensed version! It certainly wasn't as easy as i've made it sound. It was a lot of long hours and late nights, but looking at my life now it's 100% worth it.

PansyP · 11/08/2023 10:22

I used to have it and I wasnt happy but that wasnt because of my lifestyle it was because of marriage problems. Generally it's lovely, mostly because you feel secure.

Anyotherdude · 11/08/2023 11:16

I don’t have a particularly large house, and I work full time, partially from home (3 days and 2 in the office).
However, in the pandemic I was furloughed for 4 months and it was a wonderful period for me (and I know I was really lucky, asa great many others had a very different experience).
Why was it wonderful?

  1. I was able to get on top of all the jobs that tend to get overlooked when I’m working, such as tidying kitchen cupboards, reorganising and getting rid of unused or broken items
  2. Ditto with all the “stuff” in our attic
  3. Being restricted by food and other shortages, I was able to plan meals and take the time to prepare and freeze stuff like leftovers, vegetables Etc. to reduce food waste and to re-think reliance on kitchen towels
  4. I had the time to grow tomatoes and cucumbers, and do more gardening
  5. I was able to spend time dressmaking, curtain and blind-making and mending
  6. I found that my mental health actually improved
I suppose that is what the “ladies that lunch” brigade are doing with their days. I am so looking forward to retirement now, as I will be able to fill my days once again with all of the domestic stuff and have more time to spend on hobbies…
geekone · 11/08/2023 11:22

The thing that stands out for me on this post, and no disrespect to the OP it’s just how we all think in general, is that the husband works so the wife doesn’t need to. The in build misogyny we just assume is astounding.
I hope op that the houses are all owned by happy, women who have worked hard for them or have inherited money but that the DH isn’t important other than for the usual 😉.
SAH wasn’t for me but that was me and any parent who wants to I think it’s valid. My mother did and my husband would have given the chance and money to do so.

ricepolo · 11/08/2023 11:47

We are this family. Currently live abroad in a big, beautiful and expensive house. Lived previously in the UK in ‘the’ local house (everyone knew it). Children (4) were previously all at private school, now all in state (going private in the country we’re in doesn’t have the same benefits as in the UK), we have/had a swimming pool, big garden etc. We have nice holidays but not crazy, children can do any activity they want but we don’t spend our income: we don’t much care about handbags, labels etc. I’ll pay for quality but not to keep up with my neighbours… you would have no idea how much money we have if you met me. We love giving away money though and feel privileged to be able to do so: I would miss that if it all ended.

My husband earns extremely well. Silly amounts. He works for it though: long stressful hours. Sometimes he enjoys it, sometimes not.

I was in the City in London until our first child. Then I got seriously physically ill (unrelated to the baby) and stopped. I never went back: hated it. Face time, politics and boring boring work. Instead I’ve been building a career in a different sector whilst also having three more children and living abroad twice (with husband’s work). I’ve got two Master’s and am trying to finish a PhD which will allow me to launch something on my own.

I have however just been diagnosed with a burnout. Trying to research, run the house (we have a p/t cleaner and someone for the garden we but otherwise nothing), admin our lives and support and facilitate the children has brought me to my knees. Moving abroad certainly was a huge contributing factor but not the only
one. Two members of a couple both trying to “have it all” is not possible without substantial help and sacrifice in other areas. I have to accept I can’t be at every school event if I also want to work 40hrs a week. This makes me feel cheated and sad but it’s a reality.

The area we currently live in is hugely affluent. Many people here have eye watering sums of money. Multi multi millions and beyond. Are they happy? Some. Some not. I know of many women in loveless, sometimes abusive, marriages, many who drink to excess or have eating disorders. I know for a fact that levels of depression here are higher than average. But I also know women who are content and grateful (with the caveat that these are normally in the well-off but not crazy rich families).

Are we/am I happy? Sometimes. Sometimes not.

Key for me is a) my marriage: my husband is my absolute best friend and our relationship is rock solid, b) having purpose outside of being a “rich man’s wife” (I do not personally feel my children suffice in this respect) and c) using our money to benefit others.

WannaBeRecluse · 11/08/2023 11:58

If YOU live in one of these big beautiful houses (let's just assume it's whatever YOU consider to be big) and you have the lifestyle that means your partner/OH works...long hours let's say, but you have the kids and you get to shop or go to the gym daily, ho for coffee with your girlfriends etc

Is this what you really think SAHMs do all day? LOL

greenwichvillage · 11/08/2023 11:59

I have a nice house and I work fulltime in a job that I love. I was a SAHM for 10 years which I loved but by by the time my youngest started school I was ready to go back to work and was lucky enough to find a job I could grow with. We are fine financially but I like having my own money and being independent.
I have friends who are wealthy and have not worked since before having kids and the kids are now in their 20's. Yes they have the money but their DH are working very long days or travelling a lot for work. They were never present dads as they were always working and my friends had to do it all themselves and they are dependant on their husbands for money.
They are bored housewives now as their children have their own lives and do not need a full time parent.
Me and my DH share everything and are equals in our relationship and its good for my kids to to see this.

Turfwars · 11/08/2023 12:42

We are the poor relations to someone who lives in a house like that. I think they've struck the right balance in Rich Life - they run their own successful business jointly from home, at hours that suit them, so they aren't idle and bored.

They are heavily involved in the community and always willing to help people and have done with all the family discreetly. Not always money but if you ever needed it, they'd give you what you required and take that secret to the grave. Once she found out I was struggling to concieve she make it quietly known that if I needed any IVF, that whatever we needed to have our family they would provide.

There are a few local social climbers who hilariously have tried to bulldoze into a friendship with them but they are very intuitive and tend to shy away from people like that in favour of lifelong friends they retained from before they got rich. They aren't flashy so a lot of social climbers and hangars on overlook them which suits them just fine.

They are just genuinely lovely people. They were childhood sweethearts and still mad about each other, their kids were reared with working class /rural backgrounds and expected to get summer jobs and develop a good work ethic which they all have.

I envy them in the nicest possible way. If they weren't so lovely I'd probably hate them Grin

Noangelbuthavingfun · 11/08/2023 13:44

geekone · 11/08/2023 11:22

The thing that stands out for me on this post, and no disrespect to the OP it’s just how we all think in general, is that the husband works so the wife doesn’t need to. The in build misogyny we just assume is astounding.
I hope op that the houses are all owned by happy, women who have worked hard for them or have inherited money but that the DH isn’t important other than for the usual 😉.
SAH wasn’t for me but that was me and any parent who wants to I think it’s valid. My mother did and my husband would have given the chance and money to do so.

Haha...very good view :-). I'd love to hear how women got there themselves of course, amd what an amazing thing to celebrate ! I guess for me my perspective was just that it's not going to ever be myself that gets us to this lifestyle and if it ever was ...I'd never be able to enjoy any time off for doing the hobbies and lunches etc . So it has to be the OH providing it :-).
Quite honestly I'd hate working any more than I already do so if it means more than the 40 + hours I already do - I'm not sure I'd get any enjoyment out of it!

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Desperatenow1 · 11/08/2023 13:47

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm · 10/08/2023 17:00

I don’t work and have a very full and interesting life. No sitting in front of the telly for me!

But I did work full time with three young children and a constantly travelling husband, and deliberately quit because my big pay packet wasn’t worth it, the stress was enormous and our home is now far happier. And we can afford it. I am grateful every single day for it.

Please don’t assume it’s all spoilt trophy wives behind those gates.

OP didn't assume anything......

OP simply asked a question about life happiness and all you had to do was answer it. Not get defensive and accuse her of casting aspersions at your lifestyle, because she simply didn't do that.

GenieGenealogy · 11/08/2023 13:48

I suppose that is what the “ladies that lunch” brigade are doing with their days

If I asked someone what they had done that day and they said that they had been rethinking their reliance on kitchen towels, I'd think they'd totally lost the plot.

Andrasa · 11/08/2023 14:24

We’ve got the big five bed house with front and back garden etc and general comments from all delivery people about it being lovely/can’t believe it’s one house. It’s also cheaper than the three bed house we owned in London - Covid wfh meant we could move out and buy something nice without changing the mortgage payment. We do have a cleaner as there are six bathrooms and there is no way I’m even cleaning one of them every weekend.

no kids yet and both working from home full time so feel like we have plenty of time and money. I work full time hours but pretty flexibly so don’t have to do anything except fun stuff when I’m off work, especially as partner is wonderful and does nearly all the cooking, mental load and general tidying as he can’t relax if anything needs doing - I do dishwasher etc but takes 10 mins of an evening, normally while I’m chatting to him cooking anyway, and get laundry done around getting drinks or lunch while working.

tonight after work I think I might go for a run, eat the dinner cooked for me, then either go to the pub or play video games. Feels like the dream life although gets a bit same-y and am aware it’ll change when we try to have a kid. I do feel I miss a purpose to an extent, each day is very similar.

diptyquegeek · 11/08/2023 17:17

At the moment, I'm happy being at home and live the lifestyle you describe OP. However it wouldn't be forever for me, but I don't judge anyone's situation. I found I got a lot of judgement from mums I met through NCT and baby groups as I wasn't going back to work. Now I've met women in a similar position and that has definitely helped. Shock horror they're not all airheads living in gilded cages, much to my other friends surprise. What I would say is that I think I'm lucky that I have my parents close by so I get to spend a lot of time with them which I'm grateful for as they're mid 70s and have had a lot of health issues. That was something I found difficult to do when working in the city and travelling with work. And also lots of friends who wfh or part time so lots of people to spend time with and I have my youngest with me 3 days a week so my days to myself are precious and I've always got plans. I would like to work again but my husband has to travel with work too and it's not feasible with young children and elderly parents. If our support network was different, I may have gone back to work sooner but that's the situation we're in and I'm happy to have the flexibility of time to myself and time with the kids while they're young. I never have the Sunday night dread feeling and I feel very fortunate. Not having to worry about money is a real privilege and that makes me happy but there are always other factors with happiness - I worry about the kids, family etc. I've lived in a much smaller house and also felt very happy so I think it's all relative!

MrsPetty · 11/08/2023 18:04

I was a SAHM until my DDs were high school age and lived in a big house. My exH had a well paid job but I wasn’t happy. I’ve since downsized, married again and am much, much happier.

Anotherpinkginplease · 11/08/2023 18:20

Im in a 4 bed 2 bath detached in a lovely area, my husband works and I stay home with the kids 5 & 3. I love them dearly however out of Choice I've decided to pick up a part time job two days a week for some adult conversation 😂

Missingpop · 11/08/2023 19:14

I would love to stay home home all day; just to let the cleaning lady in; to do the cleaning & ironing for me & to sit & watch the gardener tending my immaculate gardens before getting ready to drive into town to have a massage ; mani & pedi before meeting friends for a light lunch then back home; to wait for my darling husband to come back from his day of sports to change ready to meet friends for dinner at our favourite restaurant. How the other half live eh 😂😂😂😂

letsdonextweek · 11/08/2023 19:17

Funny that people think SAHMs don't do anything all day 🤣 Mine will all be at school from this sept but no intention of going back to work for now. Probably never.

Yourcatisnotsorry · 11/08/2023 19:39

We have full paid for a large 5 bed detached. I’m the higher earner and am contemplating giving up work to be a Sahm. While I enjoy my work the freedom of not working would definitely make me happier. If my OH was the higher earner I’d definitely not be working now (late 30s) but would do something once kids are older/moved out