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to not invite them on this day out

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QueenBlue · 08/08/2023 10:03

My parents and sister live a couple of hours away from me and my husband so we don't get to spend much time with them or they with our child who is now 5.

They are coming up tomorrow and have arranged to take me, my sister, my nephew and my DC out for the day to an amusement park. We rarely do anything as a family so looking forward to it.

The thing is my husbands older two children are with us tomorrow (I'm off and DH is working from home in the morning but off in the afternoon). This is outside of their normal time with us due to the school holidays so my parents didn't know when they booked to come but in any event they would prefer it to be just us anyway as they don't get much time with our child and my SC can be quite full on and argumentative.

DH is pulling his face that I don't want to or haven't offered to take SC and has said he can work flex in the evening instead so he can come too with them. I've told him no and to just let my parents spend a day with me and our child.

Aibu not inviting SC and DH along? For context they are 9 (SD) and 11 (SS). Our child is 5 and my nephew is 8.

My parents and sister will be coming back to ours after we've been out to have a cup of tea and stuff and say hello before heading home so will see them later on.

OP posts:
YetMoreNewBeginnings · 09/08/2023 20:31

Dramatic · 09/08/2023 20:26

Which is fine, but you can bet the SCs would want to go to the theme park if they knew their brother was going. 9 and 11 are perfect ages for a theme park, I have 2 kids of those ages (one being my step daughter) and I can tell you now they would not forget being left out of a trip like this. It's not just a trip to the local park.

You’re not the only person with kids that age so no need to ‘tell’ me anything…

They’ll be absolutely fine as long as their lazy arse father doesn’t just sulk. If he does something with them they’ll have a good day.

Hell he could even book tickets and go and do his own thing if he’s so adamant his kids should be going. The Op can’t actually stop him…

But we all know he won’t because he is the problem.

zombie0037 · 09/08/2023 20:32

QueenBlue · 08/08/2023 10:49

Well yes I would like one day out with my family.

The Stepchildren are a part of your family, you married their dad, your child gets to spend full time with their dad, how would you feel if their dad planned a awesome day with his kids and left your child at home.

LT1982 · 09/08/2023 20:33

If you didn't have the SC that day it would be no issue but as you do it's extremely cruel to exclude them from a day out they will see you going on with the other kids

Dramatic · 09/08/2023 20:33

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 09/08/2023 20:31

You’re not the only person with kids that age so no need to ‘tell’ me anything…

They’ll be absolutely fine as long as their lazy arse father doesn’t just sulk. If he does something with them they’ll have a good day.

Hell he could even book tickets and go and do his own thing if he’s so adamant his kids should be going. The Op can’t actually stop him…

But we all know he won’t because he is the problem.

Ahh yeah let's make the kids suffer. Perfect solution.

Window82 · 09/08/2023 20:34

But what if they went without you I mean it all seems pretty harsh on the SC

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 09/08/2023 20:34

Dramatic · 09/08/2023 20:33

Ahh yeah let's make the kids suffer. Perfect solution.

So ok for the younger one to suffer his siblings taking over the day again, but the Op can’t leave their day to their father?

How’s that fair?

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 09/08/2023 20:36

Hopefully the OP is, as she sounds, reaching the end of her tether with her DH and can escape his laziness soon

Might actually force him to do something with the older two

Dramatic · 09/08/2023 20:37

Window82 · 09/08/2023 20:34

But what if they went without you I mean it all seems pretty harsh on the SC

This is what a lot of posters don't seem to get, the fact is the SC are going to be upset and feel left out, regardless of whether that's the OHs fault. Unless she's going to leave her DH then she is being unnecessarily mean to these kids.

Dramatic · 09/08/2023 20:38

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 09/08/2023 20:34

So ok for the younger one to suffer his siblings taking over the day again, but the Op can’t leave their day to their father?

How’s that fair?

Because they are siblings and you have to put up with each other? I'm sure they have plenty of days out without the step kids when they're not at their house.

Energydrink · 09/08/2023 20:38

you should have thought about that before you married him. Excluding your stepchildren is weird

they are kids do you think they won’t feel left out? They probably won’t be bratty forever but they’ll always remember how you treated them

JMSA · 09/08/2023 20:40

My parents and sister will be coming back to ours after we've been out to have a cup of tea and stuff and say hello before heading home so will see them later on.

Well, that's good of them. I'm sure that'll make everything right.
Confused

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 09/08/2023 20:41

Dramatic · 09/08/2023 20:38

Because they are siblings and you have to put up with each other? I'm sure they have plenty of days out without the step kids when they're not at their house.

Equally we could say “I’m sure the step kids have plenty of days out when they’re not at that house” too…

Ridemeginger · 09/08/2023 20:41

Dramatic · 09/08/2023 20:28

Totally agree with this, you can bet that ops son wouldn't be left at home because of bad behaviour

Well I bet you in return that if the OP's child misbehaves, she's allowed to discipline him and has his father's backing, whereas I bet you that she is not allowed to discipline her SC, and if she does, is not supported by her husband. I bet therein lies the difference. I also bet that there's quite a difference between a 5 year old being able to understand behaviour and consequential punishment, and a 9 and 11 year being able to understand it - I bet that most people would believe the latter 2 should by now be able to understand how they need to behave, and should therefore not be given the same latitude and repeat chances as a still learning 5 year old. I bet that being able to deal with one tantruming 5 year old, who is your own child, in a public space is a whole lot easier than dealing with two fighting 9 and 11 year olds, who have been schooled by their father (I bet) that they can do no wrong.

jannier · 09/08/2023 20:42

Eggandcresspleasemummy · 09/08/2023 19:45

Why do you infer that she doesn’t want to be a stepmum just because she doesn’t want to take his badly behaved children on ONE outing that was arranged for a time outside of normal visits from the SC, and have her day ruined by having to wrangle them because her DH won’t ?

You do realise that her perfectly behaved child is going to turn into a pre-pubescent horror at about 8 and will be arguing and fighting with the step siblings too don't you????

She doesn't see them as her family.

to not invite them on this day out
to not invite them on this day out
jannier · 09/08/2023 20:45

I've worked with children for 30 years about 95% turn horrible at puberty and a similar amount of siblings fight squabble and argue most of the time ....you can't ditch them unless you can afford a boarding school.

Tiredmummy201 · 09/08/2023 20:45

i think it's a little unfair on the SC .. do understand your side too though. Maybe DH can take them to a theme park another day and you and DC stay home to seem fair? Kids that age love theme parks and I’d imagine would feel quite sad that they aren’t invited but if told they are going on X day instead I’m sure they wouldn’t mind.

Backagain23 · 09/08/2023 20:46

zombie0037 · 09/08/2023 20:32

The Stepchildren are a part of your family, you married their dad, your child gets to spend full time with their dad, how would you feel if their dad planned a awesome day with his kids and left your child at home.

How wonderful for the DSC to have the opportunity to spend some quality time with just them and Dad, in that case.
No need for their SM and her family to intrude on their time together.
Did you mean "if their dad planned an awesome day with some of his kids?" No worries there, the fact that he won't do it for any of them has been well documented.

whumpthereitis · 09/08/2023 20:47

Dramatic · 09/08/2023 20:37

This is what a lot of posters don't seem to get, the fact is the SC are going to be upset and feel left out, regardless of whether that's the OHs fault. Unless she's going to leave her DH then she is being unnecessarily mean to these kids.

No, we get it, we just don’t believe it’s OP’s responsibility to make up for their father’s failings.

jannier · 09/08/2023 20:50

Eggandcresspleasemummy · 09/08/2023 19:32

But they’re siblings and in years to come it could damage them if they’re not included !!

So you think the ops children should go on sleep overs to the ex's home?

jannier · 09/08/2023 20:55

Teaismymiddlename · 09/08/2023 19:52

Of course they should. If my son is badly behaved then sure as hell he wouldn't be going to a theme park.
Doesn't know how to listen to an adult? Also wouldn't be going 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️

But does the op say they have been naughty today or that I'm not wanting to take them because they will probably be naughty? If you exclude just in case are you being fair? If you expect bad behaviour your vibe gets bad behaviour kids know you don't like them.

QueenBlue · 09/08/2023 20:58

Sorry not completely caught up yet but just to say me, DC, parents sisrer and nephew went and had the lovely day we planned. All very tired and ready for bed now!

I must say some of these replies are quite ridiculous to me, absolutely fine to disagree with going without SC, that's your opinion but things like missing out on days with their step cousin...?! Crazy. They've never even met 🤣

OP posts:
jannier · 09/08/2023 20:59

Eggandcresspleasemummy · 09/08/2023 19:59

It’s entirely appropriate. If you have form for ruining days out with bad behaviour, what better way to get the message across ?

Then you say at the time of the behaviour....carry on like that and tomorrow you will stay home and follow through you don't say retrospectively you were naughty 2 weeks ago so here's your punishment they are not convicts in front of a judge but children. Would you accept a school dishing out punishment next term for last terms behaviour for an 8 year old?

whumpthereitis · 09/08/2023 21:00

QueenBlue · 09/08/2023 20:58

Sorry not completely caught up yet but just to say me, DC, parents sisrer and nephew went and had the lovely day we planned. All very tired and ready for bed now!

I must say some of these replies are quite ridiculous to me, absolutely fine to disagree with going without SC, that's your opinion but things like missing out on days with their step cousin...?! Crazy. They've never even met 🤣

Glad to hear it OP!

Sisterpita · 09/08/2023 21:00

@QueenBlue glad you had a lovely day, you deserved it.

jannier · 09/08/2023 21:02

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 09/08/2023 20:21

theres a big difference between 11, 9 and 5 so would give the older children an ideal chance for what I said.

We’re a nuclear family with the youngest three. We did exactly the same with the older kids - one his, two mine - when they were younger.

The 8 year old nephew won't enjoy being on a toddler ride as much as going on some bigger rides with the 9 and 11 year old especially when the 5 year old is flagging and exhausted.

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