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GCAcademic · 28/07/2023 20:55

I’m save my sympathy regarding the “hell” of bureaucracy he claims to be going through for those EU citizens like my elderly mother who came here before 1973 and found themselves having to prove their status via the Windrush scheme after discovering that the post-Brexit Settled Status route did not take their (pre-EU arrival) situation into consideration. They were treated like undocumented aliens, having to prove their history in the U.K., have their fingerprints taken like criminals, etc, many of them having worked for the NHS, paid taxes in the U.K., etc, for half a century or more.

PassTheSnacks · 28/07/2023 20:55

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ThereIbledit · 28/07/2023 20:55

Thick wankers

PassTheSnacks · 28/07/2023 20:55

Hoppinggreen · 28/07/2023 20:52

You won Gregg, get over it

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

PassTheSnacks · 28/07/2023 20:56

GCAcademic · 28/07/2023 20:55

I’m save my sympathy regarding the “hell” of bureaucracy he claims to be going through for those EU citizens like my elderly mother who came here before 1973 and found themselves having to prove their status via the Windrush scheme after discovering that the post-Brexit Settled Status route did not take their (pre-EU arrival) situation into consideration. They were treated like undocumented aliens, having to prove their history in the U.K., have their fingerprints taken like criminals, etc, many of them having worked for the NHS, paid taxes in the U.K., etc, for half a century or more.

Those people didn't vote for that to happen to them though, so it's entirely different to this cretin.

Snugglemonkey · 28/07/2023 20:58

GCAcademic · 28/07/2023 20:55

I’m save my sympathy regarding the “hell” of bureaucracy he claims to be going through for those EU citizens like my elderly mother who came here before 1973 and found themselves having to prove their status via the Windrush scheme after discovering that the post-Brexit Settled Status route did not take their (pre-EU arrival) situation into consideration. They were treated like undocumented aliens, having to prove their history in the U.K., have their fingerprints taken like criminals, etc, many of them having worked for the NHS, paid taxes in the U.K., etc, for half a century or more.

Me too!

itsmeafterall · 28/07/2023 20:58

Tuning up my tiny violin over here 🎻

DuesToTheDirt · 28/07/2023 20:58

If I were being polite I'd say, "Oh dear, how sad." If I weren't I'd say, "Serve you fucking right you selfish moronic bastards."

GCAcademic · 28/07/2023 20:59

PassTheSnacks · 28/07/2023 20:56

Those people didn't vote for that to happen to them though, so it's entirely different to this cretin.

Exactly, that’s why they get my sympathy and he doesn’t. They weren’t even entitled to vote in the referendum.

DuesToTheDirt · 28/07/2023 21:00

VeryQuaintIrene · 28/07/2023 20:40

I really don't understand the argument that people were lied to - I mean, yes, they were, but anyone with half a brain could surely have seen that no longer being part of the EU would have huge implications for people who'd got used to seamless travel/residency between the UK and mainland Europe.

Too many people in this country can't muster up even half a brain.

PassTheSnacks · 28/07/2023 21:01

fireflyloo · 28/07/2023 20:51

Can't read it but they must've been living under a rock or dumb if they didn't realise the 90 day rule before they bought!

Yes. It appears there is a pattern.

Did no research whatsoever before deciding how to vote.

Did no research whatsoever - and presumably failed to take basic legal advice also - before purchasing a property.

I can imagine that the previous owner who "did them a deal" on the property is likely to be finding this highly amusing.

Prank the idiots. 🤣

And then - still not ashamed of having been such an idiot repeatedly - he decides to publicise this to the world! 🤣

Catusrusty · 28/07/2023 21:02

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I took great delight in explaining that this would happen to someone who I worked with. She was asked why she had voted for Brexit and she basically gave a more foul mouthed version of send the buggers back. Her face was absolutely priceless when I explained that many European workers would be replaced by people from further afield.

Yes there was some naivety amongst some brexit voters. However even the most basic research showed what a complete disaster it would be. It was discussed as nauseum on forums, on radio programs, in the papers. You would have to have been wilfully obtuse to actually believe we could exit the EU and still have freedom of movement and trade.

People like this man totally fucked over the hopes and dreams of millions of future Britons. He also trashed his own dreams in the process.

So along with the racists, the xenophobes, the we won the war brigade and the people who kept themselves completely uneducated on the most pivotal use of their democratic voting right in generation, I hope they all suffer. I really do.

CapEBarra · 28/07/2023 21:03

Thick twat.

kagerou · 28/07/2023 21:03

CoffeeRevelsForever · 28/07/2023 19:20

Remember the retired Brits crying in Spanish airports saying they'd voted for Brexit because they didn't believe in freedom of movement...only to be absolutely devastated when they lost their freedom of movement?

I do blame the appalling lies of the Brexit campaign (though Leavers on here bafflingly asserted that no one believed the bus!) and I do feel sympathy that people were misled but it's immensely frustrating that we said Brexit would be a disaster, got told we were Project Fear, got gloated at 'you lost, get over it' and now it's a fucking disaster as expected so it is difficult to feel very sorry for someone who voted for all our lives to be shitter now being upset that their life has been made shitter too.

Exactly, brexiteers somehow manage to hate freedom of movement yet despise being told they can no longer go where they want.

I feel like if it was up to them you could cross any boarder in the world so long as you had a white face and a British accent while everyone could only dream of stepping foot in mighty Britain (unless ofc they were willing to work the jobs no one else wanted and didn't start asking for ridiculous things like human rights!)

Yonderway · 28/07/2023 21:04

What did they think leaving the EU meant?
I can't understand why anyone could believe that if we left the EU we would still be able go live in the EU with no restrictions and I can't understand the arrogance of those who seemed to think that Brexit would mean people from the EU would no longer be able to settle here but British people could still settle there!i
If they voted for it they need to accept responsibility. I have no sympathy.

Snugglemonkey · 28/07/2023 21:04

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Indeed. Not one single thing has surprised me. Not one. The lack of EU workers would obviously create issues. Of course we would not just be able to waltz on and out of Europe at will (i say we, but I am irish living in uk, so actually I can. My partner cannot though, so it is fucking annoying!!!). Of course trade would be impacted. Especially the disaster in NI. That was 100% obvious and widely written about bit people decided all that was worth it. I hope it was not purely because they are xenophobic twats, but that is much how it looks.

PassTheSnacks · 28/07/2023 21:10

Yes. Still waiting for an explanation from any of them that holds water that doesn't boil down to either being thick or xenophobic. All entirely predictable and indeed predicted with greater consensus than the effects of any other policy choice in history, by over 95% of credible experts on every topic from trade to economics to science to business agreeing with each other. You'd have to have some astonishing CV or an incredible level of arrogance and unfounded self-belief to think you knew better and they were all wrong. 🤣

Shalln't attempt to hold my breath.

topnoddy · 28/07/2023 21:12

Gullible pillock !

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 28/07/2023 21:14

It's a very weird sort of entitlement that makes people believe that they can vote for something that limits the rights of others but won't have any impact on their own.

PassTheSnacks · 28/07/2023 21:14

I am very much of the view that there should be a Brexit tax, where the (~5% of GDP compounding annually) cost of this decision is shared out equally between all who voted for it.

Sign up on HMRC website. They said it was "worth it", so need to put their money where their mouth is. "Don't mind being poorer". Ok then, so you do that.

And if an insufficient number sign up (i.e. less than 50% of voters) - because in fact what they meant was that they wanted to make the rest of us poorer rather than pay it themselves - then we can safely ignore their opinions and rejoin the single market and customs union asap.

It's about time that people started to realise that rights and responsibilities go hand in hand. You broke it, you fix it. Pay up, or fuck off with your bullshit and let the adults start to repair the damage. Some apologies wouldn't go amiss, either.

Kendodd · 28/07/2023 21:15

Snugglemonkey · 28/07/2023 20:34

The only people who were deceived were totally fucking stupid. The negative fallout was 100% obvious before the vote.

True.
I suppose people can't help being thick though.

KajsaKavat · 28/07/2023 21:19

Awww diddums

BorsetshireBanality · 28/07/2023 21:19

smugly waves EU passport at them

Theimpossiblegirl · 28/07/2023 21:21

I'm still really cross about the whole thing. I will not get over it.

The only positive thing about Brexit is watching tossers like this bloke get their comeuppance. Wanker.

PassTheSnacks · 28/07/2023 21:21

I suppose people can't help being thick though

They could at least have the decency not to vote on things they don't understand.

Being thick AND being convinced you know better than everyone else who isn't so mentally challenged isn't a good look.

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