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Aliens???

440 replies

ssd · 26/07/2023 18:17

What fucking nextConfused

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Needhelp101 · 26/07/2023 20:24

TimeToMoveIt · 26/07/2023 20:17

Yep, I remember thinking great, covid and now we have aliens

@TimeToMoveIt , right? A lot of weird things were happening in 2020.
Remember the murder wasps? What ever happened to them?

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 26/07/2023 20:25

mywifeandkids · 26/07/2023 19:43

Can somebody explain what's happening with aliens and America please ??

Nothing much.

A country which has always historically been ambiguous about the the 'official stance' on UFO's because admitting they are a thing presents serious questions for security, has admitted what has always been known, i.e. UFO's are a real phenomenon.

Some people have totally grasped the wrong end of the stick, put 2 and 2 together and got 5, and jumped to the totally erroneous conclusion that UFO's = Alien visitors, therefore the US has confirmed we are being visited by ET's.

ssd · 26/07/2023 20:27

Bollocks @XDownwiththissortofthingX

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TimeToMoveIt · 26/07/2023 20:28

Needhelp101 · 26/07/2023 20:24

@TimeToMoveIt , right? A lot of weird things were happening in 2020.
Remember the murder wasps? What ever happened to them?

Oh yeah. I'd totally forgotten about them!

CatchItDerry · 26/07/2023 20:32

has admitted what has always been known, i.e. UFO's are a real phenomenon.

Where has it always been known?
This was the first time outside of conspiracy circles that this has been confirmed.

MistressoftheDarkSide · 26/07/2023 20:40

Of course, governments and corporations never collude in shady shit and there’s nothing to see here….

If it is being revealed that UFOs do exist, then the next logical step would be to explain why they are considered UFOs, especially when they have been reported by the military. And then to explain why despite investigation they remain UFOs.

So the options are:

Extra-terrestrial “craft”

Hyper-dimensional “craft”

Top secret military inventions which governments can’t get intel on.

Sophisticated rogue weather balloons.

The first two are possible but less likely than the third - this one is a massive security concern. Because these days it could be either a state driven initiative or someone with enough time and money in their hands to develop said technology privately.

Of all the ways to describe what is being debated, I don’t think mundane covers it.

stbrandonsboat · 26/07/2023 20:47

How come the aliens always visit the USA? You never hear of them going to Norway or Japan or South Africa or Clacton upon Sea. I think Americans have aliens on the brain. Too much Hollywood. The UFOs are probably experimental military craft or something.

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 26/07/2023 20:47

CatchItDerry · 26/07/2023 20:32

has admitted what has always been known, i.e. UFO's are a real phenomenon.

Where has it always been known?
This was the first time outside of conspiracy circles that this has been confirmed.

No, it's the first time the US State has officially admitted that what people have been witnessing for decades is true.

Previously they have always been completely ambiguous about 'officially' admitting that the State regards the sightings and experiences of perfectly credible people as 'fact'.

The footage that they've been watching at the hearings, the 'gun cam' stuff from military jets, the recordings of pilot/ground communications describing what they are witnessing, the after-event reports, that has all been readily available to the public for years, and nobody seriously doubts its authenticity. It's openly discussed in both military and civil aviation circles as matter of fact that pilots regularly witness unexplained phenomenon, commonly described as "UFO's". There has never been any reason to doubt the sincerity or the credibility of such people, even though US governments have always refused to verify that they have long regarded these events as legitimate.

So what we have now is 'official' confirmation that the US has always accepted the credibility and authenticity of these reports, plus some people at the hearings claiming that the US State also possesses Alien technology and cadavers. Now that last claim is totally sensational, but all it is at the moment is a claim, they've yet to produce any hard evidence to prove that these claims of ET technology and ET cadavers are anything more than claims, so until such time they do, it's healthy to be a bit sceptical.

Hawkins0001 · 26/07/2023 20:50

ssd · 26/07/2023 18:29

Its crazy

Why is it
If the galaxies are as large as scientists say they are, then the galaxies should have many different civilisations.

Or is earth somehow the special civilisation of god.

Hawkins0001 · 26/07/2023 20:51

Plus I bet other civilisations were not shackled by religion, limiting scientific progress.

CatchItDerry · 26/07/2023 20:51

stbrandonsboat · 26/07/2023 20:47

How come the aliens always visit the USA? You never hear of them going to Norway or Japan or South Africa or Clacton upon Sea. I think Americans have aliens on the brain. Too much Hollywood. The UFOs are probably experimental military craft or something.

It happens all over the world. It’s easily missed though if you’re not very interested in it.

One of the most famous cases was in Norfolk. Rendlesham Forest.

CatchItDerry · 26/07/2023 20:52

stbrandonsboat · 26/07/2023 20:47

How come the aliens always visit the USA? You never hear of them going to Norway or Japan or South Africa or Clacton upon Sea. I think Americans have aliens on the brain. Too much Hollywood. The UFOs are probably experimental military craft or something.

It happens all over the world. It’s easily missed though if you’re not very interested in it.

One of the most famous cases was in Norfolk. Rendlesham Forest.

Hawkins0001 · 26/07/2023 20:52

CatchItDerry · 26/07/2023 20:51

It happens all over the world. It’s easily missed though if you’re not very interested in it.

One of the most famous cases was in Norfolk. Rendlesham Forest.

That and other countries are better at covering it up.

stbrandonsboat · 26/07/2023 20:53

I'll only believe it if other countries reveal proper evidence. The Americans are always alluding to this mysterious so called evidence, but then never actually reveal anything. It's all very cloak and dagger. It's getting boring now.

Hawkins0001 · 26/07/2023 20:53

Bob Lazar comes to mind
And the radio show coast to coast am with George Norway and art bell

Reesewithafork · 26/07/2023 20:53

I don't think I have the energy for this. Not with the world already going to hell in a hand basket.

Hawkins0001 · 26/07/2023 20:55

Reesewithafork · 26/07/2023 20:53

I don't think I have the energy for this. Not with the world already going to hell in a hand basket.

Especially all the worlds religions
All humanity your religious beliefs are founded on aliens 👽.

stbrandonsboat · 26/07/2023 20:56

Rendlesham Forest that just so happened to be next to a USA air force base? Funny that.

noblegiraffe · 26/07/2023 20:56

The main thing that makes me suspicious of these men's testimonies is that if there are top secret government documents showing where the aliens are....wouldn't Trump have already boasted about having them, stored them in his bathroom, sold them to the highest bidder etc etc?

MistyMorningMelons · 26/07/2023 20:57

I don't dispute the fact the crafts are spotted. However, I don't believe that someone doesn't know exactly what they are.

They're never going to disclose their super secret technology to the world though are they (whoever they is)? They'd rather present us with news of "alien cadavers" and let us be distracted by that, than spill spy secrets. Too many of these incidents have occurred at airbases or near military craft for me to believe there's no link.

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 26/07/2023 20:58

Hawkins0001 · 26/07/2023 20:53

Bob Lazar comes to mind
And the radio show coast to coast am with George Norway and art bell

Indeed. There's nothing been talked about at the hearing that Lazar wasn't telling anyone who would listen about decades ago, the difference is, Lazar totally undermined his own credibility by significantly overstating his degree of involvement with, and access to, US secret programs. It's understandable why he might have done that for the purpose of lending plausibility to his claims and punting his books, but the fact remains, he hasn't produced anything of any substance that proves he is not just a complete fantasist out to make a quick buck.

GCAcademic · 26/07/2023 21:00

It’s like the latest Wes Anderson film has come to life. I do hope Jason Schwartzman and Scarlet Johansson are called as witnesses.

noblegiraffe · 26/07/2023 21:01

MistyMorningMelons · 26/07/2023 20:57

I don't dispute the fact the crafts are spotted. However, I don't believe that someone doesn't know exactly what they are.

They're never going to disclose their super secret technology to the world though are they (whoever they is)? They'd rather present us with news of "alien cadavers" and let us be distracted by that, than spill spy secrets. Too many of these incidents have occurred at airbases or near military craft for me to believe there's no link.

This is the US military saying it's not their military.

Hawkins0001 · 26/07/2023 21:01

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 26/07/2023 20:58

Indeed. There's nothing been talked about at the hearing that Lazar wasn't telling anyone who would listen about decades ago, the difference is, Lazar totally undermined his own credibility by significantly overstating his degree of involvement with, and access to, US secret programs. It's understandable why he might have done that for the purpose of lending plausibility to his claims and punting his books, but the fact remains, he hasn't produced anything of any substance that proves he is not just a complete fantasist out to make a quick buck.

That's a fair point.
I try to have the perspective of Fox Mulder trust myself but with others always be suspicious.

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 26/07/2023 21:01

noblegiraffe · 26/07/2023 20:56

The main thing that makes me suspicious of these men's testimonies is that if there are top secret government documents showing where the aliens are....wouldn't Trump have already boasted about having them, stored them in his bathroom, sold them to the highest bidder etc etc?

Oddly enough, the US actually has mechanisms that prevent Presidents being given access to absolutely everything. It can be useful because it gives them legitimate deniability, and protects them from potential fall out.

CIA black projects are commonly funded from off the book slush funds, and how the money is spent is left entirely to the discretion of the directors of these projects. The President doesn't need to know, and won't ever find out, because he never knows about the existence of specific projects in the first place. You can't demand transparency on a project that you are totally unaware exists.

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