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Aliens???

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ssd · 26/07/2023 18:17

What fucking nextConfused

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MistyMorningMelons · 29/07/2023 14:19

Toughsteak · 28/07/2023 21:43

The non-human form found at the crash site could be an animal

Yes, I had the same thought. As in perhaps some top secret government craft was being tested using animals. It something that's been done previously so it wouldn't be surprising.

PToosher · 29/07/2023 14:48

Yeah I suppose if you were flying a top secret craft that had technology and capabilities that are generations beyond current scientific understanding and engineering technology, that you've made out of materials unavailable on Earth using materials technology that's beyond the cutting edge, you'd probably get a monkey to pilot it.

Grusch referred to the beings responsible for these craft as a Non-Human Intelligence, the reference to 'non human remains' is in that context.

OvaHere · 29/07/2023 16:13

No idea what is going on but it's all fascinating.

wutheringkites · 29/07/2023 16:31

I wondered if the non-Human Biological remains might have been some kind of humanoid.

noblegiraffe · 29/07/2023 16:46

Really interesting video of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez explaining why she was there asking questions and what she wants to follow-up on.

The amount of money involved is astounding. https://twitter.com/mikecolangelo/status/1685289250793693184?s=61&t=U9XrcF693-JpMxeIueYG7g

https://twitter.com/mikecolangelo/status/1685289250793693184?s=61&t=U9XrcF693-JpMxeIueYG7g

CatchItDerry · 29/07/2023 16:50

It would surely be a massive overreaction if non human remains referred to a terrestrial animal!

Someone once did a debunk of the Roswell incident, claiming it could have been a test flight with humans or monkeys wearing space suits and breathing apparatus. Which is possible. There was lots of oddness surrounding the reporting though, and a huge cover up after, which would presumably apply to both a top secret test flight and an alien crash.

noblegiraffe · 29/07/2023 16:52

I'm wondering, re AOC video, whether if you were a private contractor siphoning off billions of government funding whether the best way to conceal it from investigators or to discredit people who look into the spending would be to tell them that it's top secret work to do with alien technology.

cushioncovers · 29/07/2023 18:27

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Oddsockday · 30/07/2023 02:44

Serious question... Why do some posters on threads like this talk in a language that a lay person cannot understand. I'm far from intellectually stupid but still... You don't impress

HaveYouHeardOfARoadAtlas · 30/07/2023 07:01

Oddsockday · 30/07/2023 02:44

Serious question... Why do some posters on threads like this talk in a language that a lay person cannot understand. I'm far from intellectually stupid but still... You don't impress

Which posts? Serious question, I consider myself a “lay person” and don’t think there’s anything I’ve struggled to understand.

Nobble · 30/07/2023 20:55

I've been reading around this the last couple of days and it's fascinating.

I cant believe some of the things being said are being aired publicly, eg multiple witnesses to red football field sized aerial object that was seen on consecutive days.

Also comments like a tic tak object what the air force would not be able to shoot down.

It doesn't suprise me at all that things things exist. But I'm so suprised it's being aired publicly.

I would assume there is a lot of secrecy in the US military. What is the motivation to discuss this openly?
Is it because they can no longer hide it for some reason, or are they going to drop feed and scare us for some reason like increased control of the public. I'm fascinated.

If anyone has links to any more resources I'd be grateful. I'm trying to listen to podcasts but most seen quite focused on conspiracy rather than fact.

CatchItDerry · 31/07/2023 08:32

Nobble · 30/07/2023 20:55

I've been reading around this the last couple of days and it's fascinating.

I cant believe some of the things being said are being aired publicly, eg multiple witnesses to red football field sized aerial object that was seen on consecutive days.

Also comments like a tic tak object what the air force would not be able to shoot down.

It doesn't suprise me at all that things things exist. But I'm so suprised it's being aired publicly.

I would assume there is a lot of secrecy in the US military. What is the motivation to discuss this openly?
Is it because they can no longer hide it for some reason, or are they going to drop feed and scare us for some reason like increased control of the public. I'm fascinated.

If anyone has links to any more resources I'd be grateful. I'm trying to listen to podcasts but most seen quite focused on conspiracy rather than fact.

The motivation as I see it is either:

  1. It’s true and there’ll be a steady increase in drip feeding information over the next few years, or 2. It’s not true and is leading to a fake event that will induce fear and compliance.

I’m swayed to option 1 as there has been a build up of work to reaching a point where information is disclosed.

As for resources, at the moment most of it will still feel conspiracy rather than fact because we’re at a point where very few facts have been confirmed. I think William Hellyer was a credible voice in this. Not so sure about Jeremy Corbell or Luis Elizondo, but they have lots to say. Bob Lazar is worth watching (IMO). The hearing itself is worth listening to.

GasPanic · 31/07/2023 10:43

Nobble · 30/07/2023 20:55

I've been reading around this the last couple of days and it's fascinating.

I cant believe some of the things being said are being aired publicly, eg multiple witnesses to red football field sized aerial object that was seen on consecutive days.

Also comments like a tic tak object what the air force would not be able to shoot down.

It doesn't suprise me at all that things things exist. But I'm so suprised it's being aired publicly.

I would assume there is a lot of secrecy in the US military. What is the motivation to discuss this openly?
Is it because they can no longer hide it for some reason, or are they going to drop feed and scare us for some reason like increased control of the public. I'm fascinated.

If anyone has links to any more resources I'd be grateful. I'm trying to listen to podcasts but most seen quite focused on conspiracy rather than fact.

I posted before, but I think it is due to the sensor technology.

There have been huge improvements over the past two decades in the capability of the sensors, plus there is now multiwavelength imaging - infra red, optical, radar. The sensors can track automatically, and all the time being recorded in higher and higher definition.

The other issue is that over time, the sensors are only going to get better. The pictures are going to get better resolution, the tracking better and they are going to be able to see stuff more clearly from further away. The ability to deny the existence of something when it is imaged on multiple sensors and recorded becomes that much harder, and it is only going to get more difficult to deny.

Of course, the advances in sensor technology go hand in hand with secrecy. You can understand why the military is reluctant to give away what it is capable of detecting and tracking, because if you know the limits of their equipment, you have a benchmark for designing things that will be able to avoid detection.

So yes there is an issue there that the reluctance to release information may be a "cover up" on the whole alien issue, but may also be because the military are really worried about revealing their capabilities to enemies.

Cozytoesandtoast00 · 11/08/2023 18:10

CatchItDerry · 26/07/2023 21:18

Yes that Greer.

The frequencies theory could also start to explain the paranormal.
Something that crops up now and again is the issue of time. Humans experience time as travelling through it, getting older, with a past and a future. There’s an area of quantum physics suggesting that all time exists now, that instead of us passing through time, time passes through us - all we can experience is the now. If our frequency matches another time we may have a brush with a “ghost”, someone existing in another frequency at the same time. I struggle to get my head round this, but I find it intriguing.

This is how I explained an incident that happened to me many years ago.
My brother and I were using a voice recorder and you can clearly hear myself, my brother and my grandmother's voices in discussion.
My late grandfather voice came over our voices calling my sister's name. He has a very identifiable accent and the voice sounded distorted but warm and familiar.
I don't really believe in "ghosts" as such. But this theory could explain how that happened.

LadyAstor · 14/08/2023 20:03

What a fascinating topic. I'm very interested to see what develops over the next few years, whether its extra terrestrial or not.

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