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Aliens???

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ssd · 26/07/2023 18:17

What fucking nextConfused

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mauveiscurious · 27/07/2023 22:28

Toughsteak · 27/07/2023 22:20

Why did they not share an image of this non human being if it really exists?

That's assuming we would recognise it as a life form, we have earth bias

Hawkins0001 · 27/07/2023 22:32

Hungrycaterpillarsmummy · 27/07/2023 21:33

I think it's odd to be receiving messages from someone asking me questions as if I work for an agency and I'm trying to keep them quiet. Omg if that's not a mental health issue, I don't know what is

Considering the way you came on the thread and went straight for me with your comments
How could I be sure as to your motives?

Hawkins0001 · 27/07/2023 22:35

yes I thought caterpillar may be from one of the various intelligence services, especially the way they contributed to the tread.

Oceanus · 27/07/2023 22:54

Hawkins0001 · 27/07/2023 22:32

Considering the way you came on the thread and went straight for me with your comments
How could I be sure as to your motives?

Ahhh would I be too crass to say: they're coming for you! Next time the doorbell rings think of that... 😁

Hawkins0001 · 27/07/2023 22:55

Oceanus · 27/07/2023 22:54

Ahhh would I be too crass to say: they're coming for you! Next time the doorbell rings think of that... 😁

To be honest these days they could have me anytime anywhere.
If I'm wanted I'm wanted, although I do try to behave.
I don't fancy meeting my maker anytime soon.

Appleofmyeye2023 · 28/07/2023 01:25

GasPanic · 27/07/2023 20:06

"any life form is about passing on genetic material to next generation through reproduction. With that comes a need to firstly survive."

Humans sacrifice themselves for ideas, causes and concepts. They aren't just about survival or passing on their DNA. Many animals will sacrifice themselves as individuals for the collective. For example bees.

There's no reason aliens should be the same. There's no reason they should be different.

Bees sacrifice themselves for the survival of the collective 🤦‍♀️

thats it, I’m done…you’d rather believe that aliens are queuing up to visit and invade and are flocking here in droves? Rock on.

MansfieldLark · 28/07/2023 04:01

I'm watching Independence Day this weekend now. I love things like this.

Hungrycaterpillarsmummy · 28/07/2023 07:48

MansfieldLark · 28/07/2023 04:01

I'm watching Independence Day this weekend now. I love things like this.

Oh good shout! I think I'll do the same :)

AceofPentacles · 28/07/2023 08:20

I'm definitely in the something from another dimension camp, maybe we can only see half of the craft due to our limited perception? So the cube in the sphere reported may be a bigger craft but we can only see part of it. Grusch is a physicist isnt he, that's what he's surmising. Fascinating!

And good to see a (mostly) open-minded discussion on MN for once Smile

MistressoftheDarkSide · 28/07/2023 10:15

Channel 7 news in Australia are doing interviews with the whistleblower - they’re on YouTube if anyone else is still interested…..

CatchItDerry · 28/07/2023 10:27

MistressoftheDarkSide · 28/07/2023 10:15

Channel 7 news in Australia are doing interviews with the whistleblower - they’re on YouTube if anyone else is still interested…..

Thank you, will go and catch up!

Tawstrong · 28/07/2023 10:51

Just seen the BBC had live coverage running from the US hearings. So the mainstream media has taken an interest.

I’ve no idea what is going on… absolutely baffling.

Honestly, the world has gone bonkers!!!

Oddsockday · 28/07/2023 10:56

@Tawstrong what is bonkers about it?

Lifelessordinary1 · 28/07/2023 10:56

WhineWhineWhineWINE · 26/07/2023 18:58

Incidentally I am absolutely 100% sure that there is life elsewhere in the universe. I am also 100% sure it has never been anywhere near us.

Same - although i would say i am only 99.9999999% sure they have never been anywhere near us.

GasPanic · 28/07/2023 10:57

Appleofmyeye2023 · 28/07/2023 01:25

Bees sacrifice themselves for the survival of the collective 🤦‍♀️

thats it, I’m done…you’d rather believe that aliens are queuing up to visit and invade and are flocking here in droves? Rock on.

I think your mind is pretty closed and I'm not really sure what you hope to get out of the discussion.

Your points are ill thought out and easily refuted, and your comprehension skills need some improvement.

I can tell you what I do believe, and think I know and don't know.

I don't know whether there are aliens in contact with us, or whether they come and visit us in spacecraft or send robots. I don't know what their motivations would be if they are doing that. I don't see any convincing case as to why they would definitely not be motivated to visit us, would not find us interesting or could not visit us due to scientific limitations if they did exist. I don't know if they are visiting us in large numbers or not.

What I do know is that I have seen some pretty compelling video footage of things that are really hard to explain as a physicist. Not only that but there are a number of other people with more aeronautical knowledge that feel the same way.

I know three people, with reputations at risk have been willing to testify, under oath (and therefore at risk of action against them should they be proved to be lying) about these objects and what the nature of them might be. Two of those people talked about the inexplicable nature of these objects within the limits of our current scientific and engineering knowledge and the potential threat they pose to flying aircraft and national security. One person talked about the origin of these objects and where they may come from. I think the use of the words "non human origin" is interesting, because it also gives a get out, in the respect that natural phenomena would also fall under the definition of "non human origin". "Non human origin" is a much broader term than extra terrestrial.

In short, I don't know much. But there is clearly something unexplained going on here, and I am interested in the outcome.

HaveYouHeardOfARoadAtlas · 28/07/2023 11:00

The witnesses seem credible
just watched a video of Obama talking about it and he says there’s definitely weird, unexplained stuff
brian cox doesn’t think it’s true
dh is laughing his head off and says Elvis works in our chippy

🙈

I think there’s something in it

CatchItDerry · 28/07/2023 11:01

Paul Hellyer, former minister of defence of Canada, was very vocal about there being contact with non human life forms, and possible reasons why there’d been contact.
I’d assume that his position made him a credible source. Sadly he died a couple of years ago. It would have been interesting to hear his thoughts on the current hearings.

Thechitterbug · 28/07/2023 11:08

Shaun Ryder was right then ! 👽🛸

Lonelycrab · 28/07/2023 11:15

What I do know is that I have seen some pretty compelling video footage of things that are really hard to explain as a physicist

Exactly my thoughts. The footage of tic tac object, and it apparently doing 90 degree turns at speed and suddenly covering 60 miles in one second (!!) implies that whatever is controlling it has managed to bypass our rules of gravity and inertia and manipulate it completely.

If something is able to that, then I think our understanding of interstellar travel goes out the window, if one is able to manipulate or bypass gravity I’d have thought that opens up all sort of possibilities with travel to other stars or systems.

Tawstrong · 28/07/2023 11:41

@Lonelycrab David Grausch - the main guy answering under oath - said they have travelled from another dimension, so this implies they have not undertaken interstellar space travel.

It just sounds crazy to me- I can’t wrap my head around it. I also can’t believe that this is being said under oath, by a very credible person, with the support of US government institutions.

Very intriguing and mind being!

Tawstrong · 28/07/2023 11:42
  • mind blowing even!
GasPanic · 28/07/2023 11:49

Lonelycrab · 28/07/2023 11:15

What I do know is that I have seen some pretty compelling video footage of things that are really hard to explain as a physicist

Exactly my thoughts. The footage of tic tac object, and it apparently doing 90 degree turns at speed and suddenly covering 60 miles in one second (!!) implies that whatever is controlling it has managed to bypass our rules of gravity and inertia and manipulate it completely.

If something is able to that, then I think our understanding of interstellar travel goes out the window, if one is able to manipulate or bypass gravity I’d have thought that opens up all sort of possibilities with travel to other stars or systems.

There's a lot of stuff I could say about that, and guess what, because it's Friday I'm going to !

You are right about the forces involved in objects changing velocity in that way. the g forces would be so huge any human inside would be squeezed into a nasty mess. However, one point I would make is that we don't know whether anyone was actually inside that particular "thing". It may be that if they are aliens they have two different types of vehicle, ones they actually travel in and ones they use as robot drones. The robot drones may behave in completely different ways that the ones that beings may travel in in terms of performance like changing position/direction etc. Still I agree in order for the robot drone to behave the way it does, it would still need to use some physics beyond our understanding.

I think re travel through space, it's a technical point, but an ability to manipulate or shield gravity would not actually help that much in interstellar travel. It might help us more easily get off the planet, and construct huge spaceships for long journeys, because it would make building things on earth and putting them into space much easier. But what it wouldn't do is enable us to close the distance gap to other stars in any way. The distance gap can't be closed by overcoming gravity (or at least as we understand it). It can only be closed in three ways.

One is to go very fast, either up to or over the speed of light. This is something we currently believe isn't possible, and accelerating up to light speeds or near to them would take a huge amount of energy - we'd also have to find a way of slowing down when we got there. Even then, the nearest planetary systems would be years to decades away.

The second way is to somehow reduce the distance, by say for example travelling through another dimension, again currently not thought possible. An easy way to imagine this is like an ant on a piece of paper. It lives in a 2D world, can only walk on the surface of the paper and the only way it can get from one edge of the paper to the other is to walk across it to get to the other edge. However in a 3D world, you can fold the paper into a U shape, give the ant a flick and it could fly across the gap, making the actual distance it moves a lot shorter. The ant would be clueless about how to do this of course because it only knows how to walk on the 2D surface of the paper!

The final way is to make the time it takes to travel the distance unimportant or irrelevant to the thing doing the travelling. This could be done via suspended animation (like in the Alien movies) or by making or having your lifetime very long, so a multi year journey becomes less significant in terms of your total lifespan. You'd still want a hell of a lot of box sets to watch on the journey though.

CatchItDerry · 28/07/2023 11:59

Reality being an elaborate hologram is a possibility, and I believe many top physicists believe this could explain the universe.

Considering this into the mix it’s possible that higher dimensional beings don’t travel in ways that humans can imagine.

Lonelycrab · 28/07/2023 12:22

This is something we currently believe isn't possible, and accelerating up to light speeds or near to them would take a huge amount of energy

But isn’t that tied into our current understanding of inertia? The tic tac thing seems to be ignoring our current theories as it’s able to suddenly jump huge distances in seconds, that also requires a vast amount of energy as does moving at speed and instantly turning at 90 degrees. Like you say, the laws of physics as we know them should rip the craft apart but somehow they’re not applying there. If you take that to the extreme, maybe they have figured out a way to instantly and effortlessly achieve light speed?

And to me, if something is able to completely bypass our understanding of physics, there’s no reason to say they haven’t overcome our understanding of the limitations of light speed too.

And to those taking this all a bit too seriously, lighten up please. It’s just a bit of fun. And I got an A in my gcse physics mock don’t you know Grin