Could you be with a partner who doesn't believe in climate change?

[ToDoLists]

DH doesn't really think it's all that bad. He thinks we should be recyling more and caring for the planet as makes sense and is just the right thing to do - but that climate change as a disaster is an exaggeration and not based in science. And that people are utilising it for their own agenda, woke brigade & so on.

We have young kids.

AIBU to find this position increasingly problematic?

People are going to say people are allowed different opinions but he seems geniunely unconcerned about future of planet for our kids - and I find that hard to swallow.

See its weird being called intolerant this whole thread when I haven't insulted anyone and yet people feel free to insult me eh @EmilyBrontesGhost

God how intolerant and narrow minded I am but yet if I say what I believe I'm called gullible. I think someone posted about 10 times called me middle class/snobby etc which is funny if you knew me at all.

It's OK though I don't take insults very seriously from people who share stories about being hot a summer 40 years ago as evidence of anything. @EmilyBrontesGhost

I'm with you all the way and I hope you can see there are many of us who also see where you are coming from. Climate catastrophe is the single biggest issue affecting humanity but half of us don't want to look up, hence the movie!

I'm not making anything up, OP's DH is in denial about climate change and I was giving examples of similarly batshit opinions. IME people who refuse to accept that climate change is real often subscribe to other internet-fuelled conspiracy theories like the ones mentioned. But according to some on this thread it doesn't matter what utter nonsense your DH believes anyway, even if he's an apologist for vile misogynists like Andrew Tate you should just count yourself lucky he's not a cheater or an abuser apparently.

Judging, prone to superficial knee jerk reactions and facile comments?

That sort of thing?

David Bellamy was honest. He lost everything. David Attenborough went along to get along.

You do know this involves huge amounts of money, including taxpayer money?

And that regulation is a barrier to entry, allowing big business to grow and keep other business out?

This story is based on a paper which just decided to change the standard for temperature measurements; from an air temperature measurement made liquid in glass thermometer 2m above the ground to satellite measurements of ground temperature, this introduces a massive bias to the measurements, guess which narrative it favours. It’s disingenuous work like this that makes me doubt a lot of things we’re told to believe, but the barrage of data is so great that it is impossible to review everything

"Historically, as well as 1976, the summers of 1959, 1949, 1930, 1915 and 1911 were some of those that had Britain truly sweltering over the last century and more. In the final few days of August 1930, extreme high temperatures hit the towns and cities of Britain, including Newcastle. The Chronicle reported a rocketing demand for ice cream as Tyneside sweltered in Mediterranean conditions."

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/history/remembering-long-scorching-summer-1976-24526001

Would depend on his other views. If it was just climate change that was the main big thing we disagreed on I’d probably be ok with that as other pp have said it’s very unlikely as the dominant species on the planet we’re going to be able to do anything meaningful about it now. Too selfish. Too far.

But if it was indicative of other unsavoury values and attitudes then no.

Please link to the study you are talking because the article @ToDoLists shared does not mention one.

And your point is?

My point is, I have an excellent memory.

This is the biggest problem with climate change scepticism - people take an isolated incident and use it to reinforce their (flawed) belief. Scientists have always been reluctant to attribute an isolated event to climate change because they look at it in a holistic way. We are now at the stage where it is clearly obvious that ALL the data (not just "it snowed today" or "that was a bad storm") points to human driven climate change. I totally understand why people believe in conspiracy theories - climate change is scary and it's more comforting to believe in a shadowy conspiracy to control us but I'm afraid that climate change is true - yes , the climate has changed over the millennia but this is unprecedented.

I don't understand how people don't get the basic science that we've been pumping unprecedented amounts of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere since the industrial revolution and that it wouldn't have an affect.

Ultimately people can bury their heads in the sand but it's happening.

This story is based on a paper which just decided to change the standard for temperature measurements; from an air temperature measurement made liquid in glass thermometer 2m above the ground to satellite measurements

The satellite measurements have shown polar ice loss of over 6 trillion tonnes adding 17mm to the global sea since the 1990s. Also they are measuring increases in CO2 and methane very accurately and they are rising all the time.

This is pointless.. check out what corporate courts can do for big business away from public justice

Yes gullible.

It's mind boggling just how deep in denial so many people are.

Powell 2013 examined 2258 peer-reviews papers from 9136 authors and found 1, yes 1, that didn't agree that human activity was contributing to climate change. doi.org/10.1177/0270467616634958

Powell 2019, look at 11,602 different articles and found 0, yes 0, dissenting views that humans were contributing to climate change. doi.org/10.1177/0270467619886266

But because @sidebirds has heard someone talk about the natural climate cycle and jumped to a random conclusion or @Ukrainebaby23's DH is very clever actually scientific concensus doesn't matter.

Nobody bats an eyelid when pretty much 100% of biologists say that the human body is made up of billions and billions of cells, 100% of physicist believe in special relativity, or 100% of chemists say that molecules are made up of elementary atoms but, when almost 100% of climate scientists tell you they believe in anthropogenic climate change it's a conspiracy.

Those views say a lot more about the person that holds them and their internal bias than it does about the science of climate change.

He thinks we should be recyling more and caring for the planet as makes sense and is just the right thing to do - but that climate change as a disaster is an exaggeration and not based in science.

Not based on science?

Even when the Nobel Prize in Physics in 2021 was awarded for studies into human made climate change?

https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/physics/2021/popular-information/#:~:text=Three%20Laureates%20share%20this%20year's,and%20how%20humanity%20influences%20it.

Do you remember the long cold winters we used to have in the 1960's and 1970's when snow would happen at Christmas and every January you could walk across canals?

Now we have flowers growing all year round in our garden.

The last three winters are the coldest I've known in my (long) lifetime.

The mature trees are now putting themselves into dormancy in spring to protect themselves and start coming into leaf around a month later than usual.

(smaller trees and shrubs are unaffected, it's the really mature trees doing this)

Nature always knows.

@ToDoLists , your DH’s response is most likely to be due to a deep fear of change. It’s normal to worry about how climate change will change our family life, lifestyle and livelihoods, but ignoring it in the face of overwhelming scientific consensus plays to the industries who are most responsible and is letting his family down.

So you admit the climate is changing? That's a step in the right direction at least.

Out of interest why do you think your "excellent memory" and personal experience trumps actual scientific research and do you apply that type of thinking elsewhere in your life?

Of course the climate is changing, I've never said otherwise.

The climate has always changed.

Currently the planet is cooling down as we are entering a Grand Solar Minimum.

Not in the UK then?

Historically, humans flourished in warm times and struggled to get through cold times.