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Things on MNs that are confusing?

324 replies

ThirtyThrillionThreeTrees · 23/07/2023 20:51

Just curious if anyone else wonders about these things:

  1. DP/DH with super outing hobby - what are these hobbies, naked trampoline tennis?

  2. DP/DH with super stressful job - what is it? Is it a known stressful job or is DP/DP just describing it as that? Anyone ever consider DH is incompetent or has been over promoted?

  3. The notion of a "posh wank" - it doesn't exist, it's a lie told by men caught cheating. Do people really believe it's a real thing?

OP posts:
ManateeFair · 24/07/2023 11:10

KStockHERO · 24/07/2023 10:52

I am confused by S&B in particular:

  • Rigid and fusty ideas about wedding attire on the board. A poster will ask "Is this okay for a wedding?" and post a picture of a perfectly serviceable outfit. Cue tonnes of replies saying its too short, too low, too dark, too light, too formal, too casual. As long as you're not proposing showing up looking like Marylin Manson, wear whatever the fuck you like.
  • People asking for clothes advice on S&B. Why would you ask a bunch of completely anonymous, random internet strangers about what you should wear? You have no idea about posters' taste or style at all so why would you put any stock/value on their advice? For me, the ubiquitous Birkenstocks recommendation says it all.

Agree about the wedding outfits thing. Mumsnet seems to think all weddings have the same dress code as Royal Ascot.

Also people on Mumsnet have really weird ideas about what you can and can't wear to work. I genuinely wonder whether some of the people dictating what is or isn't appropriate for wearing in an office have ever actually set foot in an office, because they seem to get their ideas about office-appropriate clothing from TV dramas set in American law firms or something. I've seen people on here say that all the following things are 'unprofessional' or 'inappropriate' in an office environment:

  • Any flat shoe that isn't a smart loafer or, at a pinch, a brogue
  • Any skirt above knee-length
  • Any shoe with an open toe
  • T-shirts
  • Red lipstick
  • 'Unnatural looking' hair colours
  • Nails that are not short and, if painted, a subdued nude shade
  • Any kind of trainer
  • Any kind of jeans
  • Bare legs under any circumstances, regardless of skirt length
  • A tiny hint of a tattoo
  • Any earrings that are not a single pair of discreet studs
  • Jumpers

All of the above have appeared in abundance in every office I've worked in, and I work for organisations that are far from trendy and flamboyant!

Gwenhwyfar · 24/07/2023 11:11

Yetisrus29 · 24/07/2023 06:36

Age gap relationships are invariably frowned upon and people are told they'll be looking after their aged partner. No one seems to mention that dementia can happen to anyone of any age, that a 40 year old could have a stroke or heart attack. And that most people will be looking after their partner regardless of whether their 15 years young or 5 months younger.

Those illnesses are more likely as you get older though and there's a difference between being a carer at 70 for a few years or being one at 55 for 20 years!

lightemittingdiode · 24/07/2023 11:14

A total lack of self-awareness in the responses to some threads. I think sometimes it's possibly well-intentioned but sometimes I read posts and think - did you not take a second to think how that comes across? I've noticed this a lot in response to posts by an OP who is unhappy being single - married posters rush to respond with variants on 'I love my husband so much, if he were to die, I would simply be happy being single for the rest of my life'. Ok? Not really relevant here, is it, other than to rub it in someone else's face that you're currently in a happy relationship?

Threenow · 24/07/2023 11:17

askmeonemoretime · 24/07/2023 10:58

@Threenow school refusal used to very rare. I knew no one personally in this situation. Now I keep meeting parents with a child who refuses to go to school.

I don't know anyone in that situation either. Looking back I can think of a couple of kids in my class who might have had some sort of problem, but no-one else, and even those kids still managed to get to school every day.

SlightlygrumpyBettyswaitress · 24/07/2023 11:17

The number of people who bother posting on threads who have literally no empathy or ability to see things from other peoples perspective.
Eg "I'm having sleepless nights about interest rate rises". Response "you should have factored in rates moving from 2% to 7%, inflation hitting 10% and fuel costs spinning out of control. I did, I have a spreadsheet with every scenario and paid off my mortgage last year".
Or "I am sticking to1400 cals carefully and not losing weight" Response, impossible. I would lose 4 lb a week doing that. You are clearly too thick to calorie count properly".

TruthThatsHardAsSteel · 24/07/2023 11:18

Another classic.

Poster - I've been fighting with my mother x x x situation.

Replies - you're lucky to have A mother. Mine died xyz.

BarbaraofSeville · 24/07/2023 11:18

ManateeFair · 24/07/2023 11:10

Agree about the wedding outfits thing. Mumsnet seems to think all weddings have the same dress code as Royal Ascot.

Also people on Mumsnet have really weird ideas about what you can and can't wear to work. I genuinely wonder whether some of the people dictating what is or isn't appropriate for wearing in an office have ever actually set foot in an office, because they seem to get their ideas about office-appropriate clothing from TV dramas set in American law firms or something. I've seen people on here say that all the following things are 'unprofessional' or 'inappropriate' in an office environment:

  • Any flat shoe that isn't a smart loafer or, at a pinch, a brogue
  • Any skirt above knee-length
  • Any shoe with an open toe
  • T-shirts
  • Red lipstick
  • 'Unnatural looking' hair colours
  • Nails that are not short and, if painted, a subdued nude shade
  • Any kind of trainer
  • Any kind of jeans
  • Bare legs under any circumstances, regardless of skirt length
  • A tiny hint of a tattoo
  • Any earrings that are not a single pair of discreet studs
  • Jumpers

All of the above have appeared in abundance in every office I've worked in, and I work for organisations that are far from trendy and flamboyant!

To me it seems to be the opposite. No-one wears anything remotely smart any more and 'everyone' wears leggings, crop tops and trainers for work, rest, play and wedding attendance and anyone commenting or even looking at them should butt out.

lightemittingdiode · 24/07/2023 11:21

"House prices and rent in my area are insanely expensive, all my friends, family (who provide childcare) and my job are in the South East and I cannot work remotely" - "Have you considered moving to County Durham? Here's a Rightmove link for a borderline-condemned looking house in a town with no transport links to anywhere else and an unemployment rate of 99%. When I was your age, we did what we had to do to get on the housing ladder."

'I need a dress for a wedding, I'm a 5"2 size 16 with J-cup boobs who likes pastel colours and usually shops at Next, my budget is £60" - "Have you considered wearing a flouro orange androgynous boiler suit (on sale at £700)?"

Threenow · 24/07/2023 11:24

Applescruffle · 24/07/2023 11:02

I'm not the person that said that. But I suspect the reason you don't see older people come in with mental health issues is because they were taught to suppress their feelings and not talk about them. I am glad younger people don't feel they have to do that.

My friends and neighbours are all "older people", as were my parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, cousins. None of them had/have any mental health issues whatsoever, and are resilient and pragmatic. You only have to read the many posts here on MN where posters seemingly can't cope/deal with the most trivial of issues to wonder what has gone wrong.

Gwenhwyfar · 24/07/2023 11:26

TheCyclingGorilla · 24/07/2023 08:23

Poster: I don't have a driving license and I need to take a trip from Portsmouth to Newcastle to visit my second cousin's sick budgie. I've asked my sister/friend/colleague for a lift to the station but they have said no, because they gave me a lift to Sainsbury's five months ago? Are they being unreasonable?

Mn: No they aren't, you are for not being unreasonable for not spending ££££ that you can't afford on driving lessons and even more on a car & petrol. People who keep asking for lifts are the worst. Get in the bin.

Oh yes. People who drive are pariahs even though there are too many cars on the road. And we all take advantage all the time lol.

TorroFerney · 24/07/2023 11:28

LadyGrinningSoul85 · 24/07/2023 09:45

"Well yes but that's because we get ripped to shreds by the universerati for being utterly selfish and not giving one fig over how our voting choices destroy actual lives of others as long as we punish those dirty benefit claimants/immigrants/poor people in general for existing"

There you go. Fixed it for you.

Did you post that with a sense of irony?!

askmeonemoretime · 24/07/2023 11:30

Older people were taught to suppress their feelings. But I am not sure the let it all hang out is a good idea either.

Gwenhwyfar · 24/07/2023 11:35

"Can you explain to me why so many young people have bad mental health if today's parenting is so, so, much better than that of the previous generations."

They probably have better mental health than our generation just that they talk about it more. Growing up, I had three friends who self-harmed. Nobody every did anything about it.

Gwenhwyfar · 24/07/2023 11:38

askmeonemoretime · 24/07/2023 10:58

@Threenow school refusal used to very rare. I knew no one personally in this situation. Now I keep meeting parents with a child who refuses to go to school.

It happened when I was at school. It was just called dodging/skiving.

pendleflyer · 24/07/2023 11:40

Riapia · 24/07/2023 05:35

In MN land if your DP looks in the direction of another woman he is definitely perving.
You should LTB immediately.

and use of the word "perving" (if it is a word) and "pervert" without any attempt to define the term/s.

Devilsmommy · 24/07/2023 11:43

Debini · 24/07/2023 02:03

I was surprised when I joined at how many Mumsnetters seem to hate almost all men and will happily tell the OP to LTB for even trivial misdemeanors.

So true 😂, apparently my DH is an abusive arsehole cuz hes a jokey bloke who's sarcastic and makes me laugh even joking about me having a fat arse. Apparently I should get out now 🤣🤣🤣🤣

pendleflyer · 24/07/2023 11:44

Vegetus · 24/07/2023 05:59

The pearl clutching really gets to me.

what's "pearl clutching"?

pendleflyer · 24/07/2023 11:49

the firm conviction from some that people posting about sex as if it's anything more than a functional pursuit are most definitely men masquerading as women.

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 24/07/2023 11:51

Why does everyone on MN rip out kitchens and bathrooms? Do they hate them so much that they want to inflict actual violence on someone else’s choice of sink or oven housing?

It always seems rather gung ho in areas where there are necessarily a lot of water pipes and high voltage electrics, as well.

PrivateSchoolTeacherParent · 24/07/2023 11:51

pendleflyer · 24/07/2023 11:44

what's "pearl clutching"?

Being overly shocked (especially by everyday things). Think of Victorian matriarchs grabbing their string of pearls as they faint!

askmeonemoretime · 24/07/2023 11:55

@Gwenhwyfar maybe. But I skived, it wasn't school refusal. I would have gone in if made to, I just wanted some days off.
I see school refusal as children whose parents try everything to get their children to go to school, but can't. It is about severe anxiety. Very different from taking a holiday off school because you can get away with it.

Densol57 · 24/07/2023 12:01

The total lack of comprehension by some posters. They reply making up facts or miss off key important details from the OP to fit their own narrative.

PASSIVE AGGRESSIVE - Only ever seen this referred to on Criminal Minds or like every day on MN and totally incorrect many times 😂

BibbleandSqwauk · 24/07/2023 12:01

@Threenow pop onto some of the support groups on fFB. You'll find hundreds of parents, well educated, professional graduates often, who value education and are at their wits end helplessly watching their children becomes shells of their former selves and being threatened and bullied by a system that assumes they just aren't being strict enough and that imposing a fine will somehow improve matters. It's a very real and growing problem that is woefully misunderstood. .

BibbleandSqwauk · 24/07/2023 12:02

Sorry, that should have been @Gwenhwyfar

seafronty · 24/07/2023 12:04

This whole thread has become a shining example of why mumsnet is the most unintentionally hilarious place ever. 2 people now arguing back and forth over a totally ridiculous utterly pointless statement. A person stating her son and daughter are tall, being either wilfully ignorant or bating when it comes to reality. I love it. It's kept me amused with this nonsense so many times. Just hilarious. Right, I'm off to relationships to laugh my head off some more.