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How accurate you would say the whole ”women are choosing to be single” is?

226 replies

UserNROsingle · 23/07/2023 15:22

There a lot of articles these days and my social media (could be algorithm, I know) seems to be full of women saying they rather stay single and comments filled with saying the same thing. Or big talks how women won’t tolerate awfyl behaviour/men anymore.

But, I gotta say, I’m not seeing this in real life. All the women I know are or want to be in relationships. I don’t know one strong or independent woman (nor a man for that matter). And many tolerate awful men and behaviour.

So, I don’t really understand why news keep pushing headline like this? Is it to try and provoke and anger men? Can someone explain?

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Hercules12 · 23/07/2023 15:27

How strange you don’t know one strong or independent woman? I like to think I’m strong and I’m certainly independent -not sure who else would pay any of my bills!
nor am I remotely interested in dating. Nearly 50 and perfectly fine on my own.
is it your particular circle of people?

BeanCounterBabe · 23/07/2023 15:27

I’ve got a few friends who have chosen to be single. They’re all professionals earning decent money so don’t need a man financial reasons. They have friends to socialise and holiday with. They will only date someone who enhances their lives, any man who doesn’t make them happy gets dumped.

cadburyegg · 23/07/2023 15:29

Maybe you ought to widen your social circle

Nn9011 · 23/07/2023 15:29

Just because the women around you are acting one way doesn't mean that all women are acting that way. There is very much a large number of women actively choosing to be child-free/partner-free (one or the other and/or both).
I would say it's probably still a minority of women that are choosing to be that way, although I bet that number is increasing.
Of course anything that goes against the grain will be picked up by headlines, that's what they do. They pick up anything that will make people click to read, that goes viral, that might generate lots of comments etc because that's how they make money but if it helps educate women that they don't have to accept a "tolerable level of permanent unhappyness" in their relationships/marriage then why is it a problem!?

Unsure754 · 23/07/2023 15:29

I choose to be single and am happy and independent.

Why would the point of talking about independent women be to provoke men?

WunWun · 23/07/2023 15:29

I am choosing to stay single rather than being treated badly by some idiot from a dating app, but I'd still rather be in a loving relationship. I'm not convinced they exist for divorced women in their 40s though.

RandomUsernameHere · 23/07/2023 15:31

I think someone can be strong and independent and still choose to be in a relationship.

fireflyloo · 23/07/2023 15:32

I've a few friends who are single and are not actively looking to date/ have a partner. They are professional women, close to 40, own own homes, have great social lives and travel a lot.

UserNROsingle · 23/07/2023 15:32

Hercules12 · 23/07/2023 15:27

How strange you don’t know one strong or independent woman? I like to think I’m strong and I’m certainly independent -not sure who else would pay any of my bills!
nor am I remotely interested in dating. Nearly 50 and perfectly fine on my own.
is it your particular circle of people?

I don’t know, could be.

Although, to me strong/independent means more than just paying bills.

But yeah, everyone is very dating/relationship oriented, I’ve tried to find new friends, but I never meet anyone who are happy just being, everyone talks about dating/sex,partners,marriage,kids,relationships, mix of these things at some point.

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Boudiccabitesback · 23/07/2023 15:34

You don't know me, but I can assure you I am a woman choosing to be single.
The last interaction with a man was a fwb. When he began taking the piss I very much showed him the door.
I'm happy being single.
I wouldn’t rule out another fwb but I don't intend (atm, I'm aware life changes) to invite a man to share my life.
I have single friends who feel the same, I have married friends who are happy.
Why would my choice to be single anger men? & if it did why the fuck would I care?
Are women up in arms about bachelors? 🤔 or are you trying to start a bun fight?

Businessflake · 23/07/2023 15:36

Unsure754 · 23/07/2023 15:29

I choose to be single and am happy and independent.

Why would the point of talking about independent women be to provoke men?

Interested how you have chosen to be single vs just not met the right person yet. I was quite happy as a single woman before I met OH but I didn’t deliberately chose to be single at that point, I just was single.

UserNROsingle · 23/07/2023 15:37

Unsure754 · 23/07/2023 15:29

I choose to be single and am happy and independent.

Why would the point of talking about independent women be to provoke men?

It just made me wonder, so many men seem to entitled, owned almost, women, sex, marriage, kids.
So, I was just thinking that maybe these kind of headline aggravate them and they start pushing back/taking women’s freedom away.
Now that thing seem to go backwards globally anyway.

To anyone who took my post as me saying anytjing negative about single and/or childfree women. I’m not. I’m one myself.

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UserNROsingle · 23/07/2023 15:38

And mostly the point was that have other people seen a rise in women choosing to stay single as news and media would let me believe.
I’m only one person, can only know that many people!

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Olderandolder · 23/07/2023 15:40

Some women have always enjoyed nights out or holidays with other women.

Never understood it myself but it’s definitely genuine. Financially independent women being single is similar.

Ponderingwindow · 23/07/2023 15:42

the statistics do show that more woman will chose being single over a relationship these days.

that doesn’t mean women don’t want a relationship. It means they have the choice to demand a good relationship. It means women can more easily leave bad situations. It means women can expect more when considering a partner initially.

the key here is that women may want a partner, but they don’t need one.

DustyLee123 · 23/07/2023 15:42

I work with one independent woman, owns her own home/car, works full time plus enjoys exercise classes. Fed up of what’s going on in this country, so now starting a move to Aus.

user1471434829 · 23/07/2023 15:42

I'm not sure there are many people (but there will be some!) who truly want to be single and wouldn't prefer a happy, fulfilling relationship. However myself and a number of women I know are fairly long term single as we haven't found the right person. I don't put up with shit from anyone (romantic relationships, friends, employers etc). I'm financially comfortable and I have a lovely life.

I'd say about a third of the couples I know seem happy and in positive relationships, the other two thirds seem pretty unhappy a significant portion of the time. I reckon I'm less happy than group one and happier than group two.

I think women like me are fairly common in my circle (middle class professional). But I can see it less likely to happen with people who earn less, as trying to live alone on a low salary is so tough and so people compromise more to pay the bills!

MillicentTrilbyHiggins · 23/07/2023 15:44

I'm single (and happy about it) by choice. What I mean by that is that I'm not looking to date. I'm not on any dating apps, I don't want to be set up by friends. I don't go out hoping to meet a man in a bar/ at a hobby etc.
I'm just me.

DustyLee123 · 23/07/2023 15:44

I’m married now, but can say with absolute certainty that I would never marry or live with a man if my marriage ended.

OldTinHat · 23/07/2023 15:44

I have a friendship group of around 25 women, ages 35 to 70. Met them all in different circles. All single. Some are divorced, some have never been married.

Not a single one wants to be in a relationship, including myself. It's not even a discussion, actually. There are no dating stories to swap or anything like that. We are all happily single because we are content and just don't need a man, basically. Even the two gay women can't be bothered with finding a partner. We don't even talk about dating. We are all happy being ourselves and enjoying our lives the way we want to.

arethereanyleftatall · 23/07/2023 15:46

I think it depends completely how old you are and how old your friends are. My cycle..

20s - thought men were God, considered it at success to have one. Simpered in male company. Chose and married what turned out to be a shit one

30s - clinging on to family life despite the fact that I was the only one peddling. Didn't really see it. Ironically too busy.

40s. Realised my h was shit. Got divorced. Still thought a man would bring happiness. Dated but slowly built a single life. Paid lip service to 'it's better being single'.

Late 40s - carried on building a single life, slowly realised it was better

Now - want to shout it from the roof tops to help other women wasting 20 years of their adult life like I did

Unsure754 · 23/07/2023 15:48

Businessflake · 23/07/2023 15:36

Interested how you have chosen to be single vs just not met the right person yet. I was quite happy as a single woman before I met OH but I didn’t deliberately chose to be single at that point, I just was single.

I have been married and am now a lone parent.
I now choose to remain single for a variety of reasons.

I believe it’s better for my children (personal belief for our circumstances, not judging others disclaimer).
Have no wish to be a step parent.
I have extremely high standards that I am not sure are realistic!
I feel no lack, I am happy, I am in charge, it is very lovely!

I have to be honest, I am not sure if I had just never met someone and not had children or a long term relationship I would have felt the same.

LolaSmiles · 23/07/2023 15:49

I don't think it's that more women have chosen to turn their backs on relationships on principle, but that more women have chosen to value themselves and their quality of life enough to choose being single over being in a mediocre relationship with selfish/lazy/man-child men who add nothing to their lives.

It's probably easier to be confident and self assured if you've got a good job, financial independence, good network of friends, hobbies, interests though.

I also think there's still too many women who settle for crap and too many men who don't add much to women's lives as well.

Iheartmysmart · 23/07/2023 15:49

Out of my immediate circle of close friends, four of us are single and one is in a relationship. We’re all in our fifties.

Two friends are childless by choice and have never been married, two of us have divorced in the last few years and have kids.

I have absolutely no intention of entering a relationship unless I find someone who makes my life considerably better than it is now and living with a man again certainly isn’t in my plans.

Quite happy doing my own thing without having to compromise with anyone.

calmcoco · 23/07/2023 15:49

I know loads of single women, I'm surprised you don't! My workplace has a fair number of divorced women, as you'd expect given the age profile, and some have stated they're not looking. Same in my social circle, divorcees not always looking to replace.