JSO prevent a mum taking her baby to hospital.

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I don't know what these people think they are achieving. I think the mum was in a cab which looks like an electric car anyway, they refuse to let her get past.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/23127608/furious-mum-screams-baby-hospital-just-stop-oil/?utmcampaign=nativeeshare&utmsource=sharebarrnative&utmmedium=sharebarr_native

id agree being called foolish isn't really a decent debate or insulting.

I was here to debate not answer personal question.

Agreed. The lack of empathy for a parent with a sick child is chilling.

Just complete tunnel vision in favour of their personal hobbyhorse.

Agree. I think this is a class thing now.
If you can shop at Waitrose who are you to tell someone who can only afford Lidl and Iceland how to live their life. No. Just piss off and lobby daddy's chums like you should have done in time first place.

Some people can't ride bikes due to disability.

Asking someone if they have children to imply that maybe they’re being arseholes/have terrible opinions because they don’t, is really insulting. Lots of us are childless, childfree, have lost children, are pregnant, are trying, are not mums yet and would never agree with the opinions you are against.

You talk about JSO alienating people and you’re doing the same in a way that will be very hurtful to some of the groups I’ve mentioned.

So no, then.

Quelle surprise.

Ivykaty44

I was here to debate not answer personal question”

I shall assume no, then.

In cases like this, the police should be able to drag them off the road and keep them off, if need be. I don't understand why they got one of them a chair and gently eased his glued hand off the petrol pump he'd mindlessly destroyed, when in France, you can see the video of the protestor having his glued hand pulled off the road and told he shouldn't have done it in the first place when the dramatic ouches started.

And just like the suffragettes set back the movement suffrage for women by decades, JSO is also hindering the movement to go carbon zero.

Many people with disabilities use bikes as a walking aid, it gives them freedom. Not every disability is the same so some it will help greatly, that shouldn't be stopped due to those that can't ride a bike

Yes, I’ve seen those interviews as well. They justify it by saying it’s better for a few to die now than the millions dying by genocide and actually anyone dying now is lucky as it’s end of days and what about all the people dying or about to die right now in the global south.

And just like the suffragettes set back the movement suffrage for women by decades, JSO is also hindering the movement to go carbon zero

so it wasn't the First World War that did that?

suffragette started in 1903 and got the vote for all men and woman by 1920s

Flanell

Asking someone if they have children to imply that maybe they’re being arseholes/have terrible opinions because they don’t, is really insulting. Lots of us are childless, childfree, have lost children, are pregnant, are trying, are not mums yet and would never agree with the opinions you are against.

You talk about JSO alienating people and you’re doing the same in a way that will be very hurtful to some of the groups I’ve mentioned”

Nonsense. I’m assuming that this particular poster, who clearly has no empathy for the mother in question, has never been in the same situation.

Never said it should be stopped but neither should cars or buses or trains. Some of us have no option but to use a mobility car or go by train/bus.

Has this really turned into a class debate by some.
The rich telling the poor what to do.?
Are all the protestors from a certain class?
Why do so any MN discussions become skewed by envy and misinformation.

You didn’t ask if they had been in the same situation. You asked if they had children. Implying someone without children wouldn’t be able to empathise with the mother while someone with children would.

you can assume whatever you like - it has no relevance to the debate any kore than where you went for Christmas last year

A bike doesn't work for my kind of disability . I need to be able to us a car or bus. It's not optional for me. If cars and buses were banned I would have no freedom.

The suffragettes didn’t win us the vote. 😟

It was the suffragists who got women the vote.

Agreed

It's not effective. I have been an activist for environmental causes since 2004, and a vegan since 2006. These hypocritical, useless, spoiled Just Stop Oil people are making the entire western world despise environmentalists. There are making the general public so angry with protestors that the government will soon be able to get away with passing draconian anti-protest laws. I think both of these things are actually the real point of these paid, fake "activists".

you've been conditioned to only travel by car, but im the foolish one. its quicker to travel by bike taxi than it is by motorised taxi in London - but don't let fact get in the way of your poor insults

You know not everyone lives in London, right? You know a great deal of the UK doesn't have the level of public transport as London, right? Those are facts.

And the woman was supposed to put her sick baby on a bike, was she?

If the mum and baby had taken a bicycle taxi to hospital, do you think the protesters would have let them through? 🤔

A bike doesn't work for my kind of disability . I need to be able to us a car or bus. It's not optional for me. If cars and buses were banned I would have no freedom.

It would be better for you if there were less cars on the road causing congestion and traffic flowed more freely for those that can't use other modes of transport

As others have said, if I was in that mother’s position, and I’d explained that I had a newborn in the car who needed to get to hospital and they’d remained in the way then I would have just run them over. Sooner or later someone will do just that and good on them.