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Why do some people have comparatively smooth easy lives, and others the opposite?

197 replies

Unbalance · 20/07/2023 15:15

I mean I think it's down to random luck really, there is no why. But it's just on my mind.

Lots of people seem to believe that we all get dealt roughly a similar amount of shit over a lifetime but I really don't think that's true. Some people seem notably more lucky than others overall?

Do you believe everyone gets an approximately similar slice of shit pie?

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TheMentionOfYourName · 20/07/2023 19:50

Life is a bit of a lottery and can be very unpredictable.
I think good health puts you in good stead.
There will be people who no matter what their circumstances refuse to be beat down, there are others who are significantly luckier with the cards life has dealt them but no happier for it.
Not many of us has perfect parents, an ideaylic childhood, you tend to find people try to do their best with information they have at that time. My Mum put me in danger due to her neglect, l have chosen to forgive her for myself, not for her sake, l refuse to waste my life holding into grudges, " Holding on to a grudge is like drinking poison and expecting the other person to die ", if you can forgive, you can move on in peace.

Harrumphy · 20/07/2023 19:54

Luciansmum6 · 20/07/2023 18:20

I have a spiritual take on it. I think we are all here to grow spiritually. Sometimes
theres specific lessons and challenges we have to overcome. I’m one of the ones who is not lucky and seem to have trauma after trauma.. however I also have realised that I am drawn to things that tend to lead to those experiences and I overcome them, but sometimes I have to repeat the same thing over and over.
I actually don’t think happiness is the goal of us being here I think we are here to grow and learn lessons. I am very interested in the theory that people choose their paths before they were born. Maybe if there was some higher meaning to it beyond that which we know then it’s feasible that some people would choose 70 years of quite a lot of suffering if it advanced their souls quicker than someone who chose to have things easy.

I know a lot of really lucky people and a lot of them wouldn’t cope with a fraction of what I have. I think they also lack depth of character- so they tend to meet similarly lacking people and they never really grow as people.

I understand where you’re coming from @Luciansmum6 as a fellow repeated trauma sufferer trying to make sense of it all but then I think of my baby who died in pain just after she was born and wasn’t here long enough to grow and learn, or taste ice cream with the sun on her face which I was strangely very upset about at the time.

She certainly can’t have chosen that path (what would be the point?) and if it was a lesson for me, I only learnt that funerals for babies are not charged for (caskets are though and you can get really pretty ones) which wasn’t that great of a life lesson really. I could have googled it!

Sweetashunni · 20/07/2023 19:56

I also think there tends to be a domino effect. Say you suffer a serious stress (eg tragic bereavement), stress is more likely to lead to poor health, and poor health to unemployment or stalling at work. So one event but it’s resulted in bad luck in 3 areas of your life, if that makes sense. So that person seems ‘very unlucky’ but it’s all stemmed from the same thing

greenspaces4peace · 20/07/2023 20:09

Except @Lndnmummy and @Unbalance only 15% of the world population is white.

Runnerduck34 · 20/07/2023 20:11

MrsTerryPratchett · 20/07/2023 15:25

I teach young people financial literacy and one of the things I teach is capital. There is social capital, financial capital and personal capital. If you don't have one, you need the others.

Social is friends and family, financial is savings, personal is being clever, hard-working and social. If my landlord throws me out I either need friends to take me in, money to pay for something else, or the means to get myself resources. Some people don't have any of those. So they end up homeless.

This clearly illustrates advantage some people have- sometimes without realising or acknowleding it.

And of course life isnt fair, some people are dealt worse hands than others and bad stuff sometimes happens behind closed doors

BlissfullyIgnorant · 20/07/2023 20:14

A teacher at my DCs prep school said, "Most families have a generally easy time and that's not to say they don't have their problems, but some families just have an awful lot of shit to deal with and, unfortunately, yours is one of those families. And I understand because my family is the same."
As a teacher, I think she said what's what and I know feel that, regardless of anything and everything, regardless of all out effort to make life work or no attempt to change things, it's all just ratshit. Sorry Sad

LittleBearPad · 20/07/2023 20:16

We don't choose (actively, or unconsciously) all of the significant turns in the road.

Not all, no.

But we all make some choices where the consequences are foreseeable. Some people anticipate those consequences and think again. Others just crack on and are surprised when shit things happen. You are diminishing the importance of personal responsibility and agency to an extent OP.

BlissfullyIgnorant · 20/07/2023 20:17

I should add, ref my earlier post, money and education didn't factor into things. Ex was and is minted and I was the SAHM. Out DC wanted for nothing apart from better health and a better environment, we as a family should have thrived but we didn't. We barely coped

timberho · 20/07/2023 20:18

I don't think I'd describe it as luck exactly. Not sure what the word is? But agree the circumstances of our birth inform a huge amount of what we do.
Like, for example, even being born in the U.K is good luck - because lots of illnesses (ill health being a bad luck' that can befall anyone), can be treated that aren't in other countries.

LittleBearPad · 20/07/2023 20:18

BlissfullyIgnorant · 20/07/2023 20:14

A teacher at my DCs prep school said, "Most families have a generally easy time and that's not to say they don't have their problems, but some families just have an awful lot of shit to deal with and, unfortunately, yours is one of those families. And I understand because my family is the same."
As a teacher, I think she said what's what and I know feel that, regardless of anything and everything, regardless of all out effort to make life work or no attempt to change things, it's all just ratshit. Sorry Sad

Your children are at prep school. So regardless of any other things going on - money appears to be ok?

Many people would consider you very privileged simply because where your children are educated.

WandaWonder · 20/07/2023 20:19

It is up to people's choices a lot of the time there is no magical event that happens

anxiousatnight · 20/07/2023 20:50

Some of it's luck of the draw.

Some of it's good decisions.

Some of it's hard work.

Usually it's a bit of all three.

Having said that, you don't j ow whether someone is genuinely having a 'smooth ride'. My life is very good, I'm a SAHM to two primary aged children, beautiful home, lovely DH, passive income through investments, holidays, cars etc. My sister died aged 24 and I came into considerable money due to her passing. I'd give it all away and work every day to have her back.

Chipsahoy · 20/07/2023 21:05

I have a wonderful life now. Truly amazing. Also currently going nc with family and it’s horribly hard. My childhood was horrific. I’ve been a victim of child sexual exploitation. Nice parents. Nice home. Poor boundaries and shame culture from the religion I was raised in.
I’ve had my fair share. More than fair of bad. I’ve also had a lot of good.

Tonty · 20/07/2023 21:11

greenspaces4peace · 20/07/2023 20:09

Except @Lndnmummy and @Unbalance only 15% of the world population is white.

If that is true that makes it even more compelling - the fact only 15% of the world population is white and 'white' is the luckiest race in the world!

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 20/07/2023 22:12

Think of it as different seasons, I've had some really easy years and then some really toggbit doesn't rain it pours.

Also there are some things like growing up
In poverty that lead to lots of bad things happening

MentholLoad · 20/07/2023 22:15

total luck. depends alot on where in the world you are born, is it stable, social/health care availability, social economic situation etc etc etc

Daffodilwoman · 20/07/2023 22:26

I agree with you op.
I know people who haven’t had to work, their parents have supported them through 6th form and university. They haven’t had so much as a Saturday job. They have had driving lessons paid for, a new car bought, deposit for a house, wedding paid for. Then free childcare provided. Also free babysitting so the couple can build their relationship and not have as much strain put upon their marriage.
This makes life so much easier.

BetterCallSaull · 20/07/2023 22:30

Unbalance · 20/07/2023 15:17

I think if you start off with two loving parents who can afford to meet your needs, and if you are relatively healthy - you have hit the jackpot.

Sadly I had two awful parents, an abusive childhood and as a teenager I was treated for, and recovered from, cancer. It doesn't come more textbook awful really!

But I met a wonderful man in my mid 20s and really lived happily ever after since, with no stress, lots of freedom, financially secure. Not that my husband made me happy, no one needs a partner, but after meeting him everything else in my life at that time slotted into place.

I think a lot of it is down to outlook, and personality. Choosing to not hold onto resentment is vital.

I'm naturally very positive, optimistic and easy going, but also with very high boundaries so I only tolerate being treated with respect and kindness. So I have incredible friends and no dramas!

Willyoujustbequiet · 20/07/2023 22:46

Whattodowithit88 · 20/07/2023 15:24

I think it’s how you deal with it. I’ve had a childhood that was shit, both parents shit, I was just going to be another statistical number for teenage pregnancy who then dole dosses all her life, but my mind set was different from the rest of my family. I’m the winner.

Unfortunately the only one too, my siblings stayed in the trap and became our parents,- lying, cheating dole dossers who think working is for mugs. Just get pregnant, get a free house, then never work.

You can choose to let bad things drag you down or fight against it, it’s all about your attitude. I was born into a hard life, but I chose not to let it drag me down.

I think that's a bit naive tbh.

Some things you just can't come back from. No amount of attitude will change that.

BetterCallSaull · 20/07/2023 22:50

Willyoujustbequiet · 20/07/2023 22:46

I think that's a bit naive tbh.

Some things you just can't come back from. No amount of attitude will change that.

I think it's so sad to think that - I'd rather believe that no matter how bad things get or what happens to you, there's hope of better days.

Awful things might shape you and change you, but there is still some happiness still to experience, somehow. Without hope, what is there?

blueshoes · 20/07/2023 23:01

Mumtothreegirlies · 20/07/2023 17:39

Yanbu although I think living in the uk rather then in some war torn corrupt country is the biggest strike of luck for most of us.

This 100%

Thepossibility · 20/07/2023 23:47

My parents and childhood were awful. Parents with mental health issues, drink and drugs, violence. Neglect. I didn't have the right books at school. Missed months of school at a time. No way to go to uni because I had to earn.

The reason why I am seemingly lucky compared to others my age is because I made good decisions.
I chose an extremely responsible partner. We poured our money into property instead of travel and gadgets like our friends. We still to this day haven't had an iPad or iPhone.
We waited until we were financially secure to have children.
Instead of relaxing at nights we've studied to improve qualifications.
Still drive old cars, always bought outright.

I will say our good health and the good health of our children has been luck though and am very grateful for that.

Moneynewpence · 20/07/2023 23:50

tfresh · 20/07/2023 16:29

You make you're own luck. The people who seem to be struggling with things like this are the ones who always seem to be arguing, late, never prepared, etc.

Yes, we definitely made our child seriously disabled through arguing and inattention.
What an utterly obtuse (and ungrammatical) post.

Lndnmummy · 21/07/2023 06:36

greenspaces4peace · 20/07/2023 20:09

Except @Lndnmummy and @Unbalance only 15% of the world population is white.

🙄 I knew it would not take long.

doingthehokeykokey · 21/07/2023 08:22

greenspaces4peace · 20/07/2023 20:09

Except @Lndnmummy and @Unbalance only 15% of the world population is white.

Yes, so the fact white run countries dominate the world, emphasises the point exactly.