Meet the Other Phone. Flexible and made to last.

Meet the Other Phone.
Flexible and made to last.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To think DHs actions have (big) consequences?

423 replies

AppelationStation · 13/07/2023 22:48

Married for 8 years, together for 11. 1ds, 7. We relocated from London to DHs v rural home village when DS was tiny.

DH has life almost exactly the way he wants it. Back in his place of birth, surrounded by familiarity and what he holds dear. Parents and old friends just up the road. Does his dream job, which earns bugger all but makes him happy. Physically demanding and early starts (leaves at 7.15am) but 0 stress. Doesn't go out much admittedly (nowhere to go nearby to be fair), but meets up with friends a few times a month, usually involving staying over at a friends house (no public transport so a couple of pints means can't get home). Goes on weekends away walking with old school mates 3 or 4 times a year. Does minimal housework / life admin / mental load when nagged but does do laundry and occasionally cleans when asked. He's gentle, polite, but also not particularly affectionate or emotionally articulate.

I work 40+ hours a week in a rewarding but highly stressful job. I earn a third of his wage again, but vol sector so still not big bucks. I do all the life admin, school runs, arranging appointments for us all + dog, almost 100% of cooking, organising childcare for summer hols, yada yada. I live hundreds of miles from family and old friend. I've actively tried to make new friends but rurality / young child / pandemic / work makes it hard. Life feels pretty thankless and joyless sometimes (accepting DS, who is a delight).

We are about to go away on our first foreign holiday in 8 years. I've paid for it, organised it. We're touring France in our van so quite a lot of organising - not a straight forward package hol. DH has been doing up the camper, slowly, for months. Peaks of activity when I've pushed but otherwise slow progress. He finished the "fun" bits last month so I've been doing all the details - finishing off woodwork, sanding, priming, painting, curtains, bedding. I've been getting up at 6.30, walking the dog, doing the school run, working all day and doing the van all evening until 11pm.

The other day I did this for the fourth day on the trot. He had had the day off (felt rough) and cooked that night. When I got in from working outside the dishes were waiting for me. I raised an eyebrow. "I cooked. You do the dishes. That's the rule". It's true, he refuses to have a dishwasher so, after I pick DS up, come in and cook, he usually does the dishes.

Today I discovered that van (his van, in his name, he uses for work. I have my own car for work) has had no MOT since April. He forgot. That's illegal. His work isn't office based so who had to organise an emergency MOT? You guessed it. He has decided, against my strongly expressed wishes, to keep driving it for the few days in the meantime. Irresponsible, selfish (criminal) arse.

He has decided to go away this weekend with his mates. We leave for our supposed family holiday (assuming the van passes its MOT) a week tomorrow. I now have to work, finish the van and look after DS single handed over the weekend, and prepare for our holiday. At the same time, my work is reaching its apex in getting a project off the ground. I have three new staff starting the week after we get back. It feels like a lot.

I politely, and then slightly less politely, articulated this. I said I'm already holding a lot, and DH being absent the weekend before we go away when there's so much to do is unfair and unhelpful. I've been told I'm being dramatic, he doesn't see the problem and its "not that hard".

He also said "I dont have the energy to listen to your needs all the time", and I need to "find someone else to offload to who has the energy to care".

Fine. It feels like a slap in the face and the last straw. I'd quite like to go on holiday without him now tbh. Am I being unreasonable to think I can find someone who "cares" about me, my life, all of this, but that might have consequences for our marriage?

And how the hell do I get through this long awaited, hard worked for "holiday"?

OP posts:
DinaofCloud9 · 13/07/2023 23:16

Well he's an absolute tit isn't he?

Wallywobbles · 13/07/2023 23:16

He's adds precisely nothing good or useful to your life anymore. Make plans.

porridgecake · 13/07/2023 23:17

You and ds take the van and go to visit your family.
Make plans to divorce your selfish husband.
He sounds awful.

Libelula21 · 13/07/2023 23:19

Others are making the more salient points, but I’d just like to add how much I admire you. I couldn’t do all that you do without cracking up. I feel lazy just reading your post! Also moving away - such a huge upheaval.

porridgecake · 13/07/2023 23:20

Just realised it is the van that has no MOT.
In that case, leave him to it and you and ds go on the train to visit friend or relative.
Make plans to divorce.

BlastedPimples · 13/07/2023 23:22

Wow.

He's taking the piss and has been for years.

What do you want?

wholivesondrurylane · 13/07/2023 23:22

Why are you being a martyr? Why add so much effort to an already packed schedule?

It's true, he refuses to have a dishwasher
Then why isn't he doing all the dishes every single time?

AppelationStation · 13/07/2023 23:23

There are three big complicating factors:

  1. Although he earns much less than I do (it wasn't like that when DS was v tiny and I was at home), he's better with money than I am. He is a saver. Actually, he's tight. I have bought school shoes, uniform, kids clothes, my own clothes, cosmetics etc out of mwy own money for years because he would bawk at how much things are. Decent school shoes are a rip off. Anything over 3.99 for a moisturiser is a waste of money. I could make my own clothes for less, etc. I've suggested over the years that he could choose a more lucrative career, but he would rather we "cut our cloth". As a consequence, the narrative has somehow become that he's the responsible one, and I am a) emotional b) frivolous and c) materialistic.
  1. DS is absolutely besotted with him. He's a very fun dad. DS is an only (not by choice) and DH is his best mate (although he's not great at meeting DSs emotional needs, and I suspect as DS gets older this will become apparent to him and affect their relationship). It would break my heart to break up our family unit as DS sees it. If I moved to somewhere I had any ties to and DS came with me, I'd be taking him hours away from his beloved dad.
  1. I love him. Or at least, I did. I really, really did. It's hard to love someone when they have no respect for you. My self respect has been hard won and I'm sad it's not shared.
OP posts:
Blossomtoes · 13/07/2023 23:27

My jaw dropped with your OP @AppelationStation and your update made me really sad. He’s just trampling on your love and I bet he doesn’t even realise it. Other than sitting him down and laying it on the line that your marriage had reached crisis point, I’m out of ideas. Would he listen if you told him you’re at breaking point?

Summerfun54321 · 13/07/2023 23:28

Is he tight with money or financially controlling?

Blossomtoes · 13/07/2023 23:29

Oh, and who the fuck are the three people who think you’re unreasonable? The mind boggles.

Aquamarine1029 · 13/07/2023 23:30

I think you have allowed your standards to fall to an absolutely abysmal low. There is zero point to this man, and he's a disrespectful fuckwit to boot.

MadameameBeans · 13/07/2023 23:30

He's totally awful
one thing though you say " I've paid for it" in terms of the holiday.
But if you are a couple and you are both going on a holiday why would one partner pay for the whole thing? I mean I get that some people don't have joint bank accounts for some reason, but why wouldn't you split the bill for the holiday equally between you?

Aquamarine1029 · 13/07/2023 23:33

I work 40+ hours a week in a rewarding but highly stressful job. I earn a third of his wage again, but vol sector so still not big bucks.

Sorry to be blunt, op, but you need a new job and sharpish. You are not a charity, get paid what you're worth if you're going to work that hard. Your marriage is in big, big trouble and you are going to need the income.

Glitterandunicorns · 13/07/2023 23:35

OP, I am so sorry to hear this.
Completely agree with everyone else who says he sounds awful to live with and like he's not considering you or your feelings at all.

Please don't stay together for the sake of your son. I promise he'll come to see in time why you make any decisions you make (I say this as someone whose parents were divorced and whose Dad always did the "fun stuff" and whose Mum always did everything else).

Your husband sounds financially controlling. Having to buy your child's school uniform and school shoes out of "your" money is appalling. That stuff costs money and if he can't/ won't even provide for his kid, what's even the point.

I wish you a happy life, OP. You sound like you absolutely deserve one in which you're treated with respect, consideration and kindness, and it sounds to me like you're not getting that here.

Flipple · 13/07/2023 23:38

He is a selfish tightarse who is failing at masquerading as normal.

Mumsanetta · 13/07/2023 23:39

AppelationStation · 13/07/2023 23:23

There are three big complicating factors:

  1. Although he earns much less than I do (it wasn't like that when DS was v tiny and I was at home), he's better with money than I am. He is a saver. Actually, he's tight. I have bought school shoes, uniform, kids clothes, my own clothes, cosmetics etc out of mwy own money for years because he would bawk at how much things are. Decent school shoes are a rip off. Anything over 3.99 for a moisturiser is a waste of money. I could make my own clothes for less, etc. I've suggested over the years that he could choose a more lucrative career, but he would rather we "cut our cloth". As a consequence, the narrative has somehow become that he's the responsible one, and I am a) emotional b) frivolous and c) materialistic.
  1. DS is absolutely besotted with him. He's a very fun dad. DS is an only (not by choice) and DH is his best mate (although he's not great at meeting DSs emotional needs, and I suspect as DS gets older this will become apparent to him and affect their relationship). It would break my heart to break up our family unit as DS sees it. If I moved to somewhere I had any ties to and DS came with me, I'd be taking him hours away from his beloved dad.
  1. I love him. Or at least, I did. I really, really did. It's hard to love someone when they have no respect for you. My self respect has been hard won and I'm sad it's not shared.

I’m raging on your behalf but I will try to be measured and take each of your “complicating factors” in turn.

  1. It’s easy to save and be the one who is “good with money” when the other person is the one buying schools shoes and uniforms. You have to be the spender because he balks at the cost of decent school shoes.
  2. Your DS is already well aware that his dad doesn’t meet his emotional needs. He may not be able to articulate it but he feels it. I would guess that’s also why he is besotted with him - he knows that his dad isn’t a sure bet when it comes to meeting his needs which makes him cling even more to him. It’s the parental version of “treat ‘em mean, keep ‘em keen” and it’s very sad and damaging.
  3. Your DH’s stinking behaviour would 100% kill my love too.

Go on the holiday without him. It will give him something to think about while you also have time to think.

ClareWilsonNS · 13/07/2023 23:40

Maybe a side issue, but if he's driving the the van when it's not MOTd, I would personally hide all the keys until it is legal to drive.

biscuits777 · 13/07/2023 23:44

So he's financially abusive to top it off.
Leave him. Your ds will still see him. You can't seriously stay in the this marriage because he's fun for your kid.

Mummyoflittledragon · 13/07/2023 23:44

He is not a keeper. You can’t stay with this man for your ds’s short term perceived benefit. In the longer term, your ds will grow to a man. This relationship set up isn’t a good model for him and a future partner.

AngeloMysterioso · 13/07/2023 23:45

I was already thinking he sounded like a spoilt, selfish twat before I read

He also said "I dont have the energy to listen to your needs all the time", and I need to "find someone else to offload to who has the energy to care".

If my DH said something like that to me after I’d uprooted my entire life for him and done everything to facility his easy, happy life, he sure as hell wouldn’t be my DH much longer.

PimpMyFridge · 13/07/2023 23:48

😲

FrenchieF · 13/07/2023 23:49

Personally I’d go on holiday with daughter and have a great time without him. Then think about my next move carefully

ferntwist · 13/07/2023 23:50

You sound amazing. He’s got you just where he wants you and because you do so much he has no idea how good he has it. You must leave him

AppelationStation · 13/07/2023 23:50

Thanks for being nice. I'm far from perfect and, like all other humans, can no doubt be a pain in the arse at times. I recognise I can be quite complicated, certainly but his standards. He seems to find me hard work. But I do graft and try to do my best.

Our life could be so much better, if he was braver and more responsive and alert to what other people (me, DS) need.

We've not had an easy run of it. I still think he's fundamentally a kind person, if a bit "path of least resistance". Maybe he could / would be different if life had taken a difderent course. Perhaps I'm finding it hard to let go of who I thought he was. It's really sad.

OP posts:
Swipe left for the next trending thread