To show you what the police actually face in the course of their duty

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This is already in the public domain .

I see a lot of negative comments about police and some of it , rightly so.

But this sums up for me what the job is about .
And why normal everyday men and women , like me , join the police service .

The bravery shown here is commendable .

Thanks for taking the time to watch .

FGS there are very valid and serious concerns about the culture within police forces. It took for a woman to be kidnapped, raped and murdered to shine a light on the number of officers who are sex offenders. How on the name of all that is Holy is ‘jUsT tRY iT’ a reasonable response to concerns? How about the solutions start within forces rather than expecting the public to change jobs so they can go ‘yeah it is hard so all the misogyny and racism is understandable’

So where were the Police Standards in 2015 when Wayne Couzens was first reported?

In the earliest reported potential missed opportunity, in Dover in June 2015, Kent police were passed full details of a car that Couzens was alleged to have been using when a couple out with their two-year-old child saw a man exposing himself. Kent police took no action.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/feb/13/wayne-couzens-pleads-guilty-to-three-counts-of-indecent-exposure

People are angry OP. It's going to take a lot of wide systematic changes to restore faith in organisations that have so woefully fallen short in the past.

And the ultra defensiveness of police workers like @Roo84 just adds to the problem as too many police believe they can do no wrong.

Isnt it funny how these threads turn up so many officers who claim it doesn’t happen in their force or on their watch. Well where is it happening then and why aren’t you noticing?

If I was ever raped or attacked there’s no way I’d go to the police. I don’t fa ch being sneered at and victim blamed like so many women I know. We are not making this up - the institutional problems are very well documented. There are not the same level of problems on teaching, nursing etc where recruitment is so selective. Yet policing is filled with sex offenders. Teaching isn’t.

See ?

What about the nurse letby killing babies ?

What about the doctor wanking into his
Receptionists tea ?

My own gp got struck off for kiddy porn .
His wife was my sons child psychologist who was assessing him for autism .

We had a case of a physiotherapist videoing all his
Clients getting undressed

I've had a paramedic crashed his car on the school run pissed as a newt

Why don't these professionals get called into disrepute because of their colleagues misdemeanours?

To parallel Stokely Carmichael: If a man wants to rape me, that's his problem. If he's got the power to rape me, that's my problem.

Giving a man a warrant badge and handcuffs and the power to arrest me makes it so much easier for him to rape me than if he doesn't have those things, as Sarah Everard found out. That Couzens was jailed doesn't bring her back. Couzens was probably emboldened by his police status to think that he would not be caught. Perhaps if he had thought that getting caught was likely, he might not have abducted, raped, and murdered Sarah.

I propose a moratorium on the hiring of new male officers until such time as there is at least 50% women at all levels and all departments of each police force. Women rarely commit sexual and violent crimes, whilst men in a "boy's club" environment egg each other on. Make the police have a majority of women to smash that "boy's club". This would restore my faith in the police.

If Letby’s colleagues were in a WhatsApp group jokingly calling her ‘baby killer’ and ignoring serious concerns as reports from parents, then I’d be seriously scrutinising the nursing profession too. But that didn’t happen. Hey Wayne Couzens was ‘affectionately’ known amongst colleagues as The Rapist

Doctors can't arrest me and I can ask for a chaperone in clinical settings.

Are you young in service ?

Really my advice is try and leave it all at the door .

I know it's really hard but for your own mental health - leave work at work and enjoy your days off .

Worry about it when you're back .
My crime list sits at 33 at the min . And I'll have another 15 tomorrow.
You can only do
What you can do .

I’d also like to add that Letby was arrested following vigilance from the Trust she worked for who couldn’t understand what was causing the high infant mortality rate. The actually took a reputational risk, took accountability by asking the police to investigate the neonatal unit. They didn’t cover it up, they didn’t make excuses, the didn’t ignore concerning behaviour. Police forces could take a lead from their book

Sadly after you have experienced such behaviour from the very people who are there to protect you it leaves you fearful of future contact. The trained drs i saw that day sent me for help in a hospital to ensure I was safe because of the past trauma I had endured but I've no doubt any report that will be on my record with the police, from those quite frankly unfeeling individuals, will be suggesting I was an unreasonable, unhinged person. I had never had any contact with police or anything like this happen to me before to suggest i was 'attention seeking'. I live with that now for the rest of my life and fear what any dbs check might reveal if I go for a new job. So the effects of those uncaring individuals in such responsible positions are life changing. You may not have seen it but I saw nothing else.

Don’t be sad. There are plenty of people who support you and the amazing work you do.

Also slightly horrified at a police officer using the term ‘kiddy porn’. FFS.

Yes most of the offences were traffic related so probably speeding.
On google -
Documents released to The Independent under the Freedom of Information Actshow 42 teachers were handed prohibition orders because of sexual misconduct in 2016-17, up from 31 the year before and 35 in 2014-15.

And that’s teachers.!
There are bad teachers, doctors, and some terrible midwives judging by recent news.

Get things in proportion.
I hope the guys and girl get medals.

If they just put the effort into doing the job, rather than lying, covering up, gaslighting victims, hiding/losing evidence that would be great. I look back at the sort of horrors that I, and some of my friends have been through and I just despair.
I don't trust the police at all.

Also re the ‘wha about doctors’ - when Harold Shipman was found to have committed all those murders, huge changes to clinical codes of practice were implemented UK-wide. I’m not talking new processes, but the whole system about clinical safety was turned on its head because of one man. Similarly, when Ian Huntley murdered Holly and Jessica, education recruitment changed forever. Because of one man.

Yet the police claim their many many ‘one man’ men are just bad apples and everyone else is fine.

Came to say the same. Fucking hell. It would almost be enough to make me think the OP was not an actual police officer, as surely the amazing force they apparently work for would have trained its officers in the difference between “pornography” and “child sexual abuse”.

Book yourself on a safeguarding refresher course OP, pronto.

There are many good police officers I am sure - I always think about those specialist services who are working against child exploitation, organised crime, trafficking etc. It must be a very very difficult job.

As a whole though, I do not trust the police. Would be very unlikely to approach them for help unless it was indeed an emergency and no other choice. I have heard and seen too many testaments of those who abuse the power they have and the protection they are offered.

It is not rare nor the exception, it is present throughout the whole system. Corruption, misogyny, racism, homophobia, - the list of problems is endless.

I agree with what many PPs have said, the entry requirements are too low, the due diligence is woeful and the failure to stop, let alone punish those officers who abuse their position just confirms that it’s essentially a boys club.

I'm ex military and worked alongside the police on many occasions. Its working alongside them that I have encountered the very horrifying experiences I detailed in my first post..

I've see action on multiple op tours and there are events I will have to carry with me for the rest of my life. So I know what trauma is. But honestly, what I witnessed made me feel very unsafe in my home country and was actually terrifying.

I genuinely teach my children now to always ensure they have legal representation if ever interviewed by the police based on first hand experiences.

I'm sad that it's come to this because I've always been a staunch supporter of the services. But it's just too risky now to put blind faith in an institution like the police.

Thanks for all you do. Most of us take for granted what you all face every day. Stay safe

I feel for the poor children in this 😢

Great work by the officers

thechippendenapook

Feel free to pm me . It is really hard in your probation. God I remember sitting crying trying to
Get my solap ready at the end of my 2 years and it was a lovely older cop who said "I've seen cops cry for all sorts of reasons, but I'm buggered if I'm going to see someone cry over the solap !" Which will be the equivalent of your degree now or your probationary qualification!

But you do really need to learn how to switch off . This job can eat you alive . But it's a job - and you're entitled to time off . We see things no one else sees and have to deal with situations no one else does . It's unique in that respect and it can be brilliant but you must look after your own mental health and make the distinction between being on duty and time off .

Do
You have a mentor or tutor ? Anyone you can chat to on your team ? Dont suffer in silence . What's your Sgt like ? They can make or break your experience. Feel free to on me x