To show you what the police actually face in the course of their duty

[baggiesmalls]

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This is already in the public domain .

I see a lot of negative comments about police and some of it , rightly so.

But this sums up for me what the job is about .
And why normal everyday men and women , like me , join the police service .

The bravery shown here is commendable .

Thanks for taking the time to watch .

I would like people to watch the video .
It's not "one cop" being brave

It's an entire team including a woman officer .

A man is holding his ex hostage in a bedroom with a knife at her throat while her two tiny children are cradled by her m
The suspect has set fire to the children's mattress.
He is threatening to cut her throat .

He has blocked the stairs with furniture.

What would you do faced with that ?

I'm going now, too upset about this even years later. The lofty dismissers? Sorry to disturb your comfortable complacency. You can all revert to ignoring reality now.

What would you do when faced with a trauma patient? Or a 78 year old Alzheimer’s patient with a full incontinence pad who thinks you’re trying to kill them?

But Vito

When the taxi driver get's threatened or the retail worker , who do they ring ?

@baggiesmalls if you saw the work my ex does with the police and the awards he’s racked up, you’d be holding him up as a shining example of bravery and integrity and someone to look up to.

And none of that would change the years of abuse he inflicted on me or the fear I live with every time I leave the house or hear a creak in the night, that he will one day carry out his threats and there is not a thing I can do about any of it because he has the support of his colleagues who laugh about how he treats women.

Until all of the good ones commit to getting rid of the bad apples, the whole barrel is still rotting as far as I am concerned.

Just start your own thread

That's wrong .

You should report him .

If you report him on 101 it's not a
Cop you speak to - it's a call handler who is totally neutral and will create an incident log that CANNOT disappear.

In this climate the appetite is to weed out any officers who have committed offences .
He can't simply be protected. Have you contacted PSD ?

’In this climate the appetite is to weed out any officers who have committed offences’

Yes. Now. Where’s it been for the past few decades?

Contact police standards and discipline.
They do not wash over anything.

They're like pitbulls. Nothing gets pst them . So report him to psd.

I've never seen our police, armed or unarmed, not take proper control of a situation and let it escalate like that.

No, they just shoot Brazilian electricians in cold blood instead.

It’s possible to appreciate some of the things they do and not have faith in them as an institution. I wouldn’t look to them for anything more than a crime reference number for an insurance claim. I wouldn’t report an assault, rape or sexual assault to them unless it was by an absolute stranger and I was stone cold sober.

All of this, except that I wouldn't even report a stranger rape. I don't want the police looking through my phone and medical records. The intrusion into the victim's life has effectively made rape legal because victims won't report any more. Already, a fifth of victims brave enough to report withdraw their allegations when faced with the privacy invasion of the police. I'll believe that Op Soteria changes this when I see it.

A doctor can't place you in handcuffs or force you into a car. A doctor cannot use physical restraint on you. The police are in a position of authority not comparable to medical staff. It is simply not the same.

A total of 10 officers and three police staff were prosecuted for violence against the person, with 10 officers and two staff guilty of sexual offences

There's no 'it was only 68' about it. These individuals were in a position of authority; a trusted position of authority where they were enforcing the same law on other people that they were guilty of breaking. And this is only 1 year's worth of data.

As far as I've seen in my service it's always been so

I've seen a total of 3 officers in 15 years who were accused of wrongdoing get sacked and investigated

I've also seen one totallly innocent officer driven to suicide by false allegations that were proven to be so a little too late .

I believ the way rape is investigated is going to change

The police are least of your worries in a rape case

It's the defence solicitor that will be an utter bastard .

I do think this is getting derailed .

I wanted people to
Watch the video

I'm used to some of this stuff but that video had me fidgeting .

Hat a ridiculous comment. People with degrees, masters, PHDs can also be racist, homophobic, violent, misogynistic, rapists you know. Exhibit A.. our government.

When I had a very real breakdown and was found by the police I had a female officer sneer at me and tell me that I was selfish for being suicidal or faking. Then every officer who sat at the hospital watching me while I waited absolutely broken and desperate for help treated me as a sideshow to laugh and stare at. The most devastating and dehumanising experience of my life when I desperately needed compassion. Yes police take on things they should be praised for but there are so many who should never be allowed to come into contact with vulnerable people.

If only David Carrick's victims had known of this mythical PSD. Perhaps the first would have been the last. Or perhaps not...

You are totally missing the point, which is that the combination of powers of arrest and professional reputation as a "sworn officet" make it very easy for a wrong'un to harm a lot of women and very easy to convince said women that they won't be believed.

Such a job attracts wrong'uns, in the same way that teaching attracts paedophiles. It will take reforms as big as the baked-in safeguarding introduced for teachers to restore public confidence in the police. And that isn't a reflection on you as an individual officer.

You wanted everyone to go "oh so brave, aren't we lucky to have them".

Well sorry but it's not enough to erase people's knowledge and life events which tell them something very different.

@baggiesmalls I have more trust in his threats than I have in his force to do anything about him if I report him, to be honest.

Yes, but only the police can arrest you and handcuff you and pretend to take you to the police station as a ruse to drive you 70-odd miles then rape and murder you. It's the powers of arrest combined with the sexist/racist/etc attitude that is the problem.

As a social worker I had a safeguarding conference in which a female officer seriously suggested that a 78 year old must have been asking to be sexually assaulted by her daughter's boyfriend.

That is truly awful and I'm sorry you experienced that .

That's never been my experience with anyone suicidal or having a breakdown- many officers themselves experience issues related to the job and I've only been compassionate and empathetic in the circumstances you describe as have my colleagues.

I've experienced one bully boy who was a prick and yes I reported him .

For those who want to slate the police and all that they do...
Just try it. Try and do that job. Go...have a ride along ... sign up as a special. See if you can - because I can tell you now it isn't easy...and many would run the other way.
Yes 100% there are bad cops out there...
As their are bad teachers, doctors, paramedics, lawyers, dentists, midwife's etc etc etc - do we as society tar all those professions with the same brush when something goes wrong? No. Do the media throw then under the bus at every opportunity? No.
Those bad cops are being weeded out, times are changing and rightly so.
Do the police get it right 100% of the time. Absolutely not!
But 99% of cops are decent people. They work hard, follow core values and have a high level of integrity and do the job as they want to help and genuinely do the right thing.
Yes the organisation has issues. But please don't class all cops are corrupt, racist etc...it really isn't the case.

That's where he's got you then .

Don't fall for it .

Report him . I assure you - it would be dealt with . Try it and see . He's got you where he wants you - believing he's untouchable. He really will not be .

I
Always think of the letby trial and wonder if all nurses feel they are viewed as murderers .

There are terrible things happen in all professions

A doctor recently got struck off for ejaculating in his receptionist's tea didn't he

I wonder why it's just police that are universally untrusted.