To think Rupert Murdoch should burn in the fires of hell

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Honestly, he’s evil. The Sun & all his press is the absolute worst of the worst.

The mostly fabricated story about Huw Edwards was likely timed to cover up tory scandal, bring down the bbc.

Boris Johnson STILL has defied a court order & not handed in his phone. This should be the main headline- not destroying a man for his sexual preferences (which weren’t deemed illegal activity anyway)

Murdoch is absolute scum. The most morally empty vile arsehole.

Personally I don't like the man.

But please provide your evidence that he personally approved the Sun's headline re Hillsborough.

Evidence?

Well the BBC have gone on record saying that he's sent 'abusive and expletive laden' messages and also gone on record tonight as saying that they've seen messages from Edwards to a colleague that 'appear to be flirty'. The colleague says they felt they were inappropriate.

As much as the Sun allegations appear to have gone too far, the BBCs position (one of effect double jeopardy) means these sources will have been raked over legally to the nth degree.

In terms of the level of proof needed to establish 'sleazy' a colleague saying the messages made them feel uncomfortable and the BBC saying they appear flirty reaches the 'metoo' criteria of 'this really isn't cool as it's not wanted and is causing someone to feel unhappy'.

That IS sleazy.

Or are we going to say that how someone says they feel are irrelevant here on this one? In 2023?

This isn't a legal matter. Appearing sleazy IS a matter of opinion.

Some stories I'm invested in, some I'm not. Just like most of us. For example I couldn't give a toss about Boris and party gate. I really don't care if he had cake and wine in a party setting during Covid. He's gone now - no longer in government. But I also know it's important to others, so if they're still invested in it, then crack on.

Well don't post then.

I genuinely believe that Murdoch controls the universe from there anyway. He just uses his Lizardman suit when he’s above ground, and save the horns and pitchfork uniform for his henchmen.

Pretty ironic coming from a rag that used to have countdowns to the days that underage girls would be 16 and therefore old enough to share their tits with the nation. 🙄

My post was about Murdoch.

I think you've got the wrong end of the stick.

It doesn't sound like the story has been fabricated, albeit it has dragged on for much longer than that kind of thing should have done.

Regardless of the rights & wrongs.
It's very convenient isn't it keeping Boris & George off the front pages for their disgusting & alleged possible criminal behaviour.
Rupert Murdock & the Conservatives, best mates.
See here:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-63668626.amp
& here
https://amp.theguardian.com/media/2015/dec/18/george-osborne-rupert-murdoch-bbc-cuts-news-corp
& here
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2019009/amp/Rupert-Murdochs-chiefs-met-ministers-100-times-Osborne-Gove-list.html

Nothing illegal happened but I don't agree it was fabricated or deliberately timed to cover up other stories

It's really possible for it to be true that the sun is a shitty rag who have acted dispicably on multiple occasions over many years

AND Huw to have behaved inappropriately enough to be newsworthy- and it really doesn't matter if people think it shouldn't be newsworthy, things don't stay top story if people aren't clicking and tuning in

Personally I thought he was a great newsreader and I haven't changed my opinion that he was good at news reporting bc I also learned that he has behaved inappropriately and my opinion of his character is no longer positive. It's possible to believe more than one thing at a time

“no information to indicate that a criminal offense has been committed.”
(said police)
Not quite the same thing it could just mean they have not been given any evidence, which they would not have if the young lady and her family are not complaining or co-operating

The young person is a man. Why, after it was established by about Saturday that it was a man are people still talking about the alleged victim as a woman?

I don't know if mainstream media has reported the sex of the alleged victims but assumed they couldn't bc they would be publicly outing him as not being the sexuality he chose to publicly identify as to reveal that in print

Well, it came to me from MSM.

As I said on another thread, if the Sun had had absolutely concrete proof about the allegations regarding Huw, and if they were able to prove he had broken any laws, they would have named him. But they couldn't, so they did not. This is why the reporting around this has been so nebulous.

Huw is actually the macguffin; a red herring, a means to an end to call the BBC into disrepute, and lead to its being defunded. Murdoch (and News Corp) control the Sun's agenda. They control the agenda and political leaning of all their media companies. Editors are recruited and directed to follow what News Corp tell them to do. They are all utterly without scruples with little interest in journalism.

Murdoch is a megalomaniac. The reason he pushed for Brexit? “When I go into Downing Street they do what I say; when I go to Brussels they take no notice.” This is just a variation on the same thing, and part of Murdoch and News Corp's assault on the BBC. Keep pushing any news that involves the BBC, no matter how tenuous, irregardless of actual fact, and hopefully, the BBC will lose its funding.

I agree with this^^

And the group which own the Mail is just as bad imho.

Instead of reporting stories they are actually creating the public narrative in the uk. They have far too much unfettered power. And they have a stranglehold over MPs, public figures, people in positions of responsibility who know they can be destroyed in an instant by the press.

Hence it’s only people like Johnson who are journalists themselves and who have fingers in many media pies who float to the top of the cess pool.

The stories emerging about HE do not appear to be very edifying, especially if it is proven that he has solicited other members of staff inappropriately, but the two issues are not mutually exclusive. HE may have behaved abhorrently or unwisely AND the actions of the tabloid press in the UK are abhorrent too.

Because people aren't aligned to their views that's why . The left
shout a lot but the right are the silent majority. GB News the channel the left want to cancel won a public voters award last week .

if a broadsheet had broken the story it would have been more nuanced
this is how The sun works
unapalatable,
awful

Because they are an independent reader- funded paper which is not financially backed by any political or commercial organisations.

Besides you always sell more papers by appealing to people’s baser instincts.

The fact that individual evil men like Murdoch and Putin can wield so much power and destroy so many people's lives is hugely depressing.

It is very plain that Murdoch has used and continues to use his media empire not just for personal enrichment, but to make political changes that affect us all. It's ridiculous that he, one man, can get what he wants on such a scale.

The manner of the Sun reporting, in particular their failure to name the presenter, was intended to make things harder for the BBC because the Sun and the rest of the Murdoch empire (along with other right wing media) have a long running hatred of the BBC because the BBC doesn't follow their biased right wing narrative.

My son was telling me about what he'd learnt in school about North Korea not having a free press. All very interesting.

I made a point of explaining to him that our major newspapers are all owned by a bunch of unaccountable millionaires and billionaires with their own agenda.

"doesn't align with the values of an organisation he represents"

That "we" pay for.

I don't read the Press or newspapers in any form and never have. Am I immune to Murdoch?
I suggest others do the same

If huw hadn't indulged in any inappropriate behaviour as the face of the bbc then there would have been nothing to report