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My brother says I shouldn’t ask ExH or his family for money when I don't ask them

282 replies

TermTimeOnlyCantPay · 12/07/2023 12:08

DD is 9, split with now ExH when she was 2. ExH has her EOWend for 2 nights.

I work 4 days a week but it's full time condensed into 4 days. I also get CB and CM for DD.

I can afford for her to do swimming, Brownies and community choir. But I cannot afford any extras, so no camps for Brownies, no competitions that have to be paid for with Choir etc.

But DD gets to do these things. Generally, because her grandparents on her dads side will pay. She has to earn it by helping them to look after her little cousin or by running into the shop to grab stuff when they walk the dog together (usually a paper, some milk and/or bread).

I never ask them to pay, DD tells them about the competition or camp or Brownies event and how much it costs they then text and ask for the copy of the letter and pay for it directly with Choir and Brownies, I just fill out the forms so she can go (as the person with PR). They generally also give her spending money for tuck shop or gift shop. They’ve also recently paid for DDs Y5 and 6 residential (they go every 2 years but take all of Years 5 and 6) which was over £300. Again I didn’t ask them to.

According to my brother and his wife I should not be asking for any financial support from ExH because he sees DD. I should expect that 4 nights a month is enough of a financial help and close the CMS case especially because I left him – ExH was violent, I had no choice but to leave and I’m glad I did. And I definitely shouldn’t be expecting her grandparents to fund her activities. If I can’t afford for her to do the extras she doesn’t do them. My brother and his wife are childless but said if they had children the financial responsibility is on them and if they split up they would only expect the parent who has them full time to be financially responsible for them as long as the other parent sees the DC. They also pointed out that CB is for the child so thats where extra should come from.

I pointed out I don’t ask them to pay for the extras, it’s not my fault if DD goes and asks them herself. Also our grandparents paid for similar things but according to them its different because our parents where together and could of afforded it without their help (I’m not so sure they could of, my dad worked part time due to illness). But according to them I need to "grow up" and take financial responsibility for my child, stop spoiling her with activities and say no to her sometimes.

I just feel now like I can’t ask anything. They know I don’t pay for it because when DD mentions it they say to me “How are you affording that?” and then DD will reply “It’s ok Granny and Grandpa paid for it”. Now I feel like I have to make DD not mention it when she goes to her dads. DD never demands from what I can tell, it's more of a casual "Brownies are going on a camp, I'd love to go" and grandparents say "How much and when is it?" then text me, they always say "Say no if you want, but can we pay for (DD) to go on Brownie camp in May?"

For added context due to the violence there’s a CAO in place, so ExH sees DD for 2 overnights but has to be supervised by his parents. They do see DD on her own without ExH but if he knows DD is with them he goes round – which is fine I get it. They also have another grandchild (DDs little cousin) and they’ve said when that GC reaches school age they’ll also help out with school trips and hobbies, so it’s not like DD is being favoured.

AIBU? Or do I have to ask DD to stop asking her grandparents and therefore stop her doing competitions and camps?

OP posts:
Shoxfordian · 12/07/2023 12:10

Your brother needs to mind his own business

Mistystar99 · 12/07/2023 12:10

Your brother is an utter dick.

Wishitsnows · 12/07/2023 12:11

Your brother is clueless. Ignore him, sounds like he has issues

Hoppinggreen · 12/07/2023 12:12

And this is any of their business because?

Fatat40 · 12/07/2023 12:12

Your brother is a dick.

He clearly has no idea about kids or parenting or how to be a decent sister/person.

It's fabulous your DD is growing up with a supportive extended family. Your ex in laws sound great - facilitating their sons contact and also providing for his daughter in ways he doesn't. Your daughter can only benefit from this.

Ignore your twatty brother and perhaps reflect on if he treats you so badly in other ways?

vodkaredbullgirl · 12/07/2023 12:12

Tell you brother to do one.

x2boys · 12/07/2023 12:14

Why are you discussing it with him?

Iamkittycat · 12/07/2023 12:14

Absolutely nothing to do with your brother. He's being rude tbh.

I think it's good that your dd has a relationship with her grandparents and it seems like a win win to me.

Babsexxx · 12/07/2023 12:15

LOL they are absolutely fucking deluded! Tell them to keep out of it! The only way I agree no maintenance either side is literally 50/50 custody!

Danikm151 · 12/07/2023 12:15

does your brother realise that CB is £24 a week and that is supposed to be towards clothes food etc

it’s great her grandparents want to help! Ignore your brother

Lesssensethanmoney · 12/07/2023 12:15

He sounds very misogynistic. Ignore his advice and grey rock him a bit more.

Sauvignonblanket · 12/07/2023 12:16

Don't listen to your brother, it's none of his business and he's wrong. He's also focussing on the wrong things. What matters most is what's best for your daughter. Getting the extra opportunities and not causing friction with her grandparents must be in her best interest.

Bumply · 12/07/2023 12:16

They don't stop being grandparents just because you've split up with their son.

I carried on visiting my ex PILs after their son and I split up.
They didn't pay for regular stuff (as I could afford it myself), but bought treats/gifts when we visited. Nothing changed there.

Don't see any issue

GabriellaMontez · 12/07/2023 12:16

Tell your brother "this is none of your business, I'm not interested in your opinion"

Willyoujustbequiet · 12/07/2023 12:17

Your brother is a dick and ignorant of the law.

Peacoffee · 12/07/2023 12:17

I should expect that 4 nights a month is enough of a financial help and close the CMS case

No normal person things 4 nights a month is anywhere equivalent to 50% the costs of raising a child. Your brother is batshit, I wouldn’t have anything to do with him. He sounds like an utter arsehole.

JulieHoney · 12/07/2023 12:18

Tell you brother to mind his own damned business.

Peterbread · 12/07/2023 12:18

Please ignore your brother, he is being a complete dick.

Is there any chance he’s jealous in some way? Perhaps him and his partner can’t have children and are allowing their bitterness to manifest itself in this strange criticism.

Pastlast · 12/07/2023 12:19

How much are brownie camps theses days?! Unless they’ve gone up massively from when mine were doing this type of thing then you’ve basically got a man who resents his parents shelling out £30 to £60 on their granddaughter occasionally. Ask him in all seriousness if he’s worried that’s going to impact his inheritance.

what a dick. And also he should but put with his random opinions.

NotMyDayJob · 12/07/2023 12:19

Just tell him to fuck off and mind his own business.

Honestly, who is more important your brother or DD? Why would you consider her going without because your brother is a rude fucking idiot?

leopard22 · 12/07/2023 12:19

Tell your brother to keep his opinions to himself, especially when he's not in your situation or even had children to fully understand the cost!

He shouldn't be asking your daughter how it's being afforded, it's absolutely none of his business (or his wife!) and you need to tell him as much.

WaltzingWaters · 12/07/2023 12:20

Your brother is a dick. Ignore him.
and I’m sure your brothers wife would soon change her mind if they had kids and then split!

LobsterCrab · 12/07/2023 12:20

Ignore your brother and carry on OP.

Minikievs · 12/07/2023 12:20

You brother is a prick.

Your ExPIL sound lovely.

Stop telling your brother stuff!

Greydogs123 · 12/07/2023 12:20

If you were still a couple then you would have two incomes and therefore would be able to afford these extras. I think it’s lovely that your dd’s grandparents are happy to contribute and enable her to do things that she otherwise wouldn’t because their son’s actions resulted in you and being unable to have a relationship.