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My brother says I shouldn’t ask ExH or his family for money when I don't ask them

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TermTimeOnlyCantPay · 12/07/2023 12:08

DD is 9, split with now ExH when she was 2. ExH has her EOWend for 2 nights.

I work 4 days a week but it's full time condensed into 4 days. I also get CB and CM for DD.

I can afford for her to do swimming, Brownies and community choir. But I cannot afford any extras, so no camps for Brownies, no competitions that have to be paid for with Choir etc.

But DD gets to do these things. Generally, because her grandparents on her dads side will pay. She has to earn it by helping them to look after her little cousin or by running into the shop to grab stuff when they walk the dog together (usually a paper, some milk and/or bread).

I never ask them to pay, DD tells them about the competition or camp or Brownies event and how much it costs they then text and ask for the copy of the letter and pay for it directly with Choir and Brownies, I just fill out the forms so she can go (as the person with PR). They generally also give her spending money for tuck shop or gift shop. They’ve also recently paid for DDs Y5 and 6 residential (they go every 2 years but take all of Years 5 and 6) which was over £300. Again I didn’t ask them to.

According to my brother and his wife I should not be asking for any financial support from ExH because he sees DD. I should expect that 4 nights a month is enough of a financial help and close the CMS case especially because I left him – ExH was violent, I had no choice but to leave and I’m glad I did. And I definitely shouldn’t be expecting her grandparents to fund her activities. If I can’t afford for her to do the extras she doesn’t do them. My brother and his wife are childless but said if they had children the financial responsibility is on them and if they split up they would only expect the parent who has them full time to be financially responsible for them as long as the other parent sees the DC. They also pointed out that CB is for the child so thats where extra should come from.

I pointed out I don’t ask them to pay for the extras, it’s not my fault if DD goes and asks them herself. Also our grandparents paid for similar things but according to them its different because our parents where together and could of afforded it without their help (I’m not so sure they could of, my dad worked part time due to illness). But according to them I need to "grow up" and take financial responsibility for my child, stop spoiling her with activities and say no to her sometimes.

I just feel now like I can’t ask anything. They know I don’t pay for it because when DD mentions it they say to me “How are you affording that?” and then DD will reply “It’s ok Granny and Grandpa paid for it”. Now I feel like I have to make DD not mention it when she goes to her dads. DD never demands from what I can tell, it's more of a casual "Brownies are going on a camp, I'd love to go" and grandparents say "How much and when is it?" then text me, they always say "Say no if you want, but can we pay for (DD) to go on Brownie camp in May?"

For added context due to the violence there’s a CAO in place, so ExH sees DD for 2 overnights but has to be supervised by his parents. They do see DD on her own without ExH but if he knows DD is with them he goes round – which is fine I get it. They also have another grandchild (DDs little cousin) and they’ve said when that GC reaches school age they’ll also help out with school trips and hobbies, so it’s not like DD is being favoured.

AIBU? Or do I have to ask DD to stop asking her grandparents and therefore stop her doing competitions and camps?

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ItsNotWhatItsNot · 12/07/2023 12:44

Your brother is free to mind his own business, his thoughts are 100% irrelevant and worthless. Why did you feel you had to type out so much detail, justifying stuff? The violent male should obviously pay for his kid, and don’t tell your brother your private business.

Pigsears · 12/07/2023 12:44

DD grandparents sound lovely.
DD is doing fun stuff
You sound rational and normal.
DD dad (even though was violent...) has stepped up, is paying and is also seeing DD (supervised)

Only problem here is your brother. He kinda has a weird attitude. Wonder whats triggered that?

NoraBattysCurlers · 12/07/2023 12:46

Why are you even discussing these details with your brother?

It's none of their business. What your brother and his wife think is completely irrelevant.

Dowhatshard · 12/07/2023 12:46

Agreeing with everyone else. Your brother is horrible. Your DDs grandparents are lovely, no issues there, it’s nice your DD and you have a relationship with them.

Madamecholetsbonnet · 12/07/2023 12:47

DB and SIL know fuck all.

I would spend far less time with them and tell them even less.

ZeldaWillTellYourFortune · 12/07/2023 12:47

Why does your brother know these financial details in the first place??

SimonsCow · 12/07/2023 12:48

Is your brother always this involved in your life? You know he doesn’t have to be!

CatchYouOnTheFlippetyFlop · 12/07/2023 12:48

Dafuq it got to do with them!!! Dickeads

CatchYouOnTheFlippetyFlop · 12/07/2023 12:48

*Dickheads

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 12/07/2023 12:49

I can’t see that it’s any of your brother’s business. Does he resent the money your parents are spending for your dd?

Hocuspocusnonsense · 12/07/2023 12:50

Bless your brother and wife and their childfree life and idealistic views. Isn’t it wonderful before you have children when you’re so clear on what you will and won’t do when you have children? And then you have children. And you have a massive reality check!

Tell your brother and SIL it’s wonderful they have such clear ideas and you hope they never split and their financial position doesn’t change.

In the meantime allow the grandparents to help. They want to. They can afford to I’m presuming. Let them! Perhaps they enjoy helping and want to do it. I love your DD has to earn it with little chores too I think that’s great.

trulyunruly01 · 12/07/2023 12:51

I think it's smashing that your dd is surrounded by such a network who obviously love her and want her to enjoy her little life.
And I applaud you for seeing past your ex's abusive behaviour, for the greater good.
Shame about your weirdy-idea brother and partner, and a firm 'sod off' is due.

Thepossibility · 12/07/2023 12:51

Your brother needs to be on an information diet. He doesn't have your or your DD's best interest at heart at all. A good uncle would be delighted for his niece to have nice experiences.

Frozensun · 12/07/2023 12:52

The best way to hurt your DD’s grandparents is to take away the pleasure they get from doing things for their granddaughter. Why would you even consider it? Your bother has no say in the grandparent/grandchild relationship. Dipstick!

ChristinaXYZ · 12/07/2023 12:53

What lovely grandparents and what an annoying brother. Tell him to mind his own business and let your daughter enjoy her trips. It is great she helps ehr grandpapernts out with little jobs too. What a great situation. Seriously, ignore your brother. He is seriously over-stepping.

itsmylife7 · 12/07/2023 12:54

Tell your bloody brother and his wife to keep their noses out of your business.

Your daughter is lucky to have caring GPs that can afford it.

I love buying ,paying towards things for my GC.... that's what we're for 😉

Turfwars · 12/07/2023 12:54

You didn't mention if your brother has kids.

Many of us were perfect pontificating parents until we had our first kid. 😜

I got it from childfree BIL and SIL a bit as well. He still rants about his other brother's kids behaviour but in reality as teens go, they are pretty great. I like to ask him how they compare with his teen years just to shut him up.

SlightlygrumpyBettyswaitress · 12/07/2023 12:55

What has it got to do with them.
It sounds like your daughters grandparents are a blessing to her and she to them. Why wouldn't your brother just be pleased for her?

thaisweetchill · 12/07/2023 12:55

Is your brother always this opinionated?

It's clear you're not demanding any money from them and it sounds just like the normal grandparent thing to do! They obviously want to be involved in your DD's life and they feel they're helping by enabling her to go on these trips. I think it's lovely what they're doing.

It'll be very interesting when your brother has children and see how his opinions change.

Like a PP said he needs to be put on an information diet and personally I would be avoiding seeing him.

Namechangedforthis2244 · 12/07/2023 12:56

your brothers opinion here is really weird, so weird that like pp I suspect that he has a secret child somewhere who hes paying minimum child benefit for and nothing else….

Baneofmyexistence · 12/07/2023 12:56

Her grandparents are doing a nice thing. My parents love to treat my DC to things. Sounds like you have an arrangement you, DD and the grandparents are all happy with so what your brother thinks is completely irrelevant.

Hibiscrubbed · 12/07/2023 12:57

Your brother and his wife are stupid. Dangerously stupid. They presumably know what he did to you?

I’d tell them to shut up and fuck off, frankly.

honeylulu · 12/07/2023 12:57

Your brother should butt out. He is clueless as well as a busybody. The grandparents sound brilliant and I'm sure you and your daughter make clear their gestures are appreciated. CB is enough for all that? Hahahahahaha...

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 12/07/2023 12:57

Your brother is an idiot and needs to keep his views to himself

SchrodingersWife · 12/07/2023 12:57

Please don't stop your DD going to places because your brother is an arse. Her GPs obviously want to pay for these activities and they're letting your DD think she's contributing by doing errands. It's a lovely arrangement.
Refuse to discuss finances with your brother. It's none of his business. Neither is your or your DD's relationship with her other GPs or her DF.

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