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How bad a parent do I look now to school/Headteacher?

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TheAwfulMumWhoDidLetHimKnow · 08/07/2023 15:17

DD is 9, Y4. Has SN and a medical condition. She has come a long way in the 5 years she’s been at Primary School.

Today she had a choir concert with school. She was anxious about it but so excited, she was singing for the whole town.

Its her dad’s weekend to have her, and I told him about the concert on an email, what time I had to drop her off, what time she was singing and then when and where to meet me to collect – School don’t know ExH as he never picks up from school, ever. I then sent him another text with the same information on this morning.

ExH didn’t turn up. He does this a lot, doesn’t turn up for stuff if he can’t be bothered – so far this year he’s missed Sports Day, a girlguiding event where she was flag bearer, her Brownies Christmas Carol Concert and her school choirs easter church service. All things she really wanted him there for but then he also always blames me saying I didn’t tell him or he didn’t know when it was despite being on schools emailing list for letters and newsletters and me letting him know.

Towards the end of her singing bit, I could see her getting upset and she didn’t manage to do her solo she’d built up to and was excited for.

When I went to collect her, she started shouting and screaming at me that I hadn’t told Dad when and where it was or he’d be there and now she hates me. She then started hitting me. Headteacher and head of KS2 (who’s also the choir lead) both walked over to us, HT bent down and put her hands on DDs shoulders (not roughly) and bluntly said “It’s ok to be upset but while you are wearing school uniform, I will not allow you to hit anyone”, DD then started crying probably thinking she was in trouble and panicking then started shouting again that it wasn’t fair as I should have told Dad to be there. HOKS2 took her off for a calm down and HT told me to give them a few minutes – which I did.

ExH then turns up, a full 30 minutes after she’d finished singing, walked straight up to DD and the HOKS2 and claimed he didn’t know when it was, he wasn’t told. HT confirmed with me he was her dad and then they let ExH take DD off to his for the weekend.

She is never like that at school. She gets a bit giggly when she’s nervous, and can be cheeky to staff but I’ve been told it’s typical 9year old behaviour and “of no great concern”. I feel awful, I had told her dad when it was and like I said he is on the schools mailing list, so he will have received exactly the same emails as me about it.

She’s text me since getting to her dads to say she knows I didn’t tell him and she hates me.

I feel like the worst mum in the world, because I couldn’t make ExH be there when he should be. And then DD blamed me for it even though I have tried to let him know.

I’m also ashamed she started hitting me in front of her headteacher and worried they now think I’m the awful RP who never lets the NRP know when and where something is happening.

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Ourladycheesusedatum · 08/07/2023 17:24

If he had no idea at all about this, how did he know where to come to get her.

Even more so as you say he has never picked her up from school.

I detest fathers who pull shit like this on their children.

Assuming your daughter is around 9 or 10 now? Can she have her own phone and text him herself, or can she email him the dates, times and places of events.

Not so you dont have to, but to be sure he knows when hes expected and he does have the information.

No doubt he will still let her down, but that's his issue to solve.

Ourladycheesusedatum · 08/07/2023 17:25

Cross post, she has her own phone, she can trlk him herself.

Jessbow · 08/07/2023 17:26

I'd involve her in sending the messages to him next time

Rebecca, I have an email here about your school sports day. Can you come help me , make sure its sent on to daddy. [she clicks send]

Involve her in informing him. Then SHE knows that HE knows

Pigeon31 · 08/07/2023 17:27

I guarantee the HT and school know what's going on (and have seen much worse) - but it doesn't hurt to just put something brief in writing to let them know that he did know about the event, but that you know DD gets very distressed about it.

It's so sad for her (I say this as someone who's dad was very flakey/ compulsive liar although not terrible in other respects) because she wants so badly to believe him, even though she knows what he is like.

Mariposista · 08/07/2023 17:29

You did what you can OP. You told him, it's his problem he is inept and didn't red the message (and then lied about it).
Your daughter is understandably upset, but I would not be tolerating thumping and language such as 'I hate you'. You need an apology for that, and then you can calmly engage with her.

OneDayIWillBeOrganised · 08/07/2023 17:29

GoodChat · 08/07/2023 15:29

School will know this is on him. If he didnt know where or when, how did he know where to collect her from?

This!!! Also, the school will know he is on the mailing list and that he told a blatant lie to them! Don't worry, I'm sure they've seen it all before.

Whattodowithit88 · 08/07/2023 17:32

Bet his told her everytime behind your back he didn’t make it because mummy never told him about it.

His a coward and a total let down!

Floralnomad · 08/07/2023 17:33

When she gets home I would show her all the texts / emails that you have to do with today and her dad , then tell her you don’t want a repeat performance in future . I also agree with a pp that she has a phone in future tell her she is to text him about what is happening so that it’s got nothing to do with you whether he shows up or not .

OneDayIWillBeOrganised · 08/07/2023 17:34

JenWillsiam · 08/07/2023 16:55

The uniform comment was not necessary.

Maybe the HT said this so she could step in to support without the child thinking her mother was being undermined. Some people are always on the lookout for something to moan about ffs!

GameOverBoys · 08/07/2023 17:36

I would tread carefully about how you talk about it. Don’t say negative things about him or accuse him of lying. Her self esteem and sense of her own identity is intertwined with her idea of him. She obviously knows that he isn’t doing what he should otherwise she wouldn’t have got so upset.

EddieMunsen · 08/07/2023 17:39

Topseyt123 · 08/07/2023 16:38

This also sounds like a great idea. The message is then clearly there in writing for all three of you to see.

It works until he starts to undermine mum using this chat.

I've been there.

Grey rock him. Minimal interaction. Expect nothing, including no good faith dialogue.

Yellowlegobrick · 08/07/2023 17:39

Options: start having her ring him to ask him herself to attend these events & give the details.

In reality, she probably knows inside that he knew. She's lashing out at you because she's crushed & he doesn't care, but you do. Either that or its a defence mechanism- if you didn't tell him, she can go on believing he does want to be a good dad and does care.

The risk of getting her to invite him herself is she can't avoid facing the reality that he knows and has chosen not to come - which will hurt her a lot

CockSpadget · 08/07/2023 17:41

What an absolute bastard, I’m fuming for you. Honestly OP, the school will have dealt with parents like him before, they will know you’re not at fault. I know it’s no consolation now, but as she gets older, your DD will soon suss him out for what he really is (if she hasn’t already, but is in denial, so will be blocking out the thought that one of her beloved parents keeps letting her down)

LoisPrice · 08/07/2023 17:43

Id be encouraging her to text her dad herself and let him know when the events are either from her own phone or from your phone or both.

Sadly though this will probably make it worse, as deep downside wants to blame you for not telling him as its the easier answer than him not caring - fucking arse wipe

SleepingStandingUp · 08/07/2023 17:45

TheAwfulMumWhoDidLetHimKnow · 08/07/2023 15:26

Will show her the texts when she;s home tomorrow and will also email school.

I am always at these types of things, I rearrange work around it because I know how much it means to DD. I just feel awful for her, that he has 1) let her down again and 2) will make out it's my fault.

After you've shown her, I future, get her to send the texts. Hi Dad it's Mirabelle, my concert is on Tuesday at 6 at school

Morning Dad, don't forget my concert at 6 tonight.

JusthereforXmas · 08/07/2023 17:50

So you emailed and texted him... simply show your daughter, you have PROOF. Call out his lies with backed up facts.

My deadbeat dad also never showed up to anything, I never blamed my mam though.

Toddlers often treat their mam like crap because they know she is the one thats always there and so they can take their anger out on her without her leaving but by 9 she should be well past that point.

TheAwfulMumWhoDidLetHimKnow · 08/07/2023 17:50

Todays concert wasn't at school, it was in the town centre, close to school but other schools where taking part to.

She was singing the last two lines in a song as solo, she was very nervous, but HOKS2 had given her the option to not do it and DD was adament she wanted to - I am gutted for her that she didn't do it, so will definitely discuss with HOKS2 whether there might be an opportunity in the new school year.

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ManchesterGirl2 · 08/07/2023 17:51

It's gonna be painful for her to start to realise what a shit he is. Make sure that she has lots of emotional support, and adults who she knows she can talk to about her dad (maybe a teacher or school counsellor). There will be a lot of complicated feelings of loyalty and hurt and self-esteem, and she might need a person independent of the situation to help her with that.

usernother · 08/07/2023 17:51

What a massive prick he is and what a horrible thing to do to his daughter. Hang on in there OP. She'll be old enough to realise what he's like one day.

Giltedged · 08/07/2023 17:51

It isn’t simple, though.

I am not suggesting the OP shouldn’t stand up for herself but do people honestly think this nine year old will just quietly absorb the facts and apologise to her mother?

JenWillsiam · 08/07/2023 17:53

OneDayIWillBeOrganised · 08/07/2023 17:34

Maybe the HT said this so she could step in to support without the child thinking her mother was being undermined. Some people are always on the lookout for something to moan about ffs!

Says the person moaning about a simple comment.

TheLifeofMe · 08/07/2023 17:54

When she gets home show her the messages to prove you aren't lying. As much as you don't want kids to be affected by their parents split, if he is telling lies about you, you need to show her the truth. Don't hate on him to her but say that he must have got mixed up but this is what I sent him. I would then speak to your ex and explain that doing this, by missing events, turning up late etc is having a detrimental effect on your child. If he truly loves her, he will work with you and not against you.

IcedBananas · 08/07/2023 17:57

When your DD is home, show her the messages for this show and the other shows he’s missed. Message him and tell him she’s seen the messages and so have the school so it’s his choice if he wishes to continue to lie but no one will believe him. It’s up to him now if he wishes to continue to let DD down. Talk to the school and warn them this could happen again, see if they have any advice, and maybe between you make a plan to help DD process those feelings at future shows/events if he’s a no show again.

IcedBananas · 08/07/2023 17:59

Honestly though I suspect your DD knows you did/do tell him (that’s why she’s so upset - his rejection and indifference) she just had really big feelings and didn’t know what to do with them so she lashed out at you.

OneDayIWillBeOrganised · 08/07/2023 17:59

JenWillsiam · 08/07/2023 17:53

Says the person moaning about a simple comment.

It wasn't a simple comment was it though? You kept going on about it despite it being irrelevant to what OP was asking about and the OP not being bothered by this at all. Teacher bashing by complete strangers at it's best 🤣