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Are attractive women treated worse by other women

275 replies

Paaooolo · 03/07/2023 23:17

My best friend since primary school is a beauty. 5'10, long, thick gorgeous hair, pretty face, nice figure, etc. She's a lovely person too. We were out the other weekend and I noticed other women were really stand off-ish with her (thru no fault of her own, she was V polite and chatty)! I'm average looking, a 6/10 if I'm really dressed up maybe and don't have this problem. Attractive women, is this common?

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DontBeBitterGlitter2023 · 04/07/2023 14:54

@DentonFarley it's hard to put into words to be honest, although people have admitted to thinking that once they find out more about me. It's a shock to a lot of people. I've had comments like 'can you actually read?' When discussing books...I've had strangers comment that I couldn't have room for any thoughts in my head due to the amount of plastic in there (which of course makes no sense regardless)

A lot of it escalated during covid when I would comment on news articles (related to my area of work) and would be told, what would you know you're a fake plastic bimbo etc...

Just to add I have had a boob job and Botox but nothing else! I am dark blonde but hardly the classic 'bimbo' type

LaBefana · 04/07/2023 14:55

DentonFarley · 04/07/2023 14:43

however an awful lot of people write me off as some sort of vain, superficial airhead...

How does this manifest itself? What are they saying to you?

Are those your two degrees I can see on your chest?

creativebutterfly · 04/07/2023 14:58

Beauty is subjective. So even if someone I find pretty or attractive personally, I treat them how they treat me. I'm usually surprised when attractive people who know it, are pleasant. I think good looking men are worse then women in terms of behaviour.

DentonFarley · 04/07/2023 15:06

DontBeBitterGlitter2023 · 04/07/2023 14:54

@DentonFarley it's hard to put into words to be honest, although people have admitted to thinking that once they find out more about me. It's a shock to a lot of people. I've had comments like 'can you actually read?' When discussing books...I've had strangers comment that I couldn't have room for any thoughts in my head due to the amount of plastic in there (which of course makes no sense regardless)

A lot of it escalated during covid when I would comment on news articles (related to my area of work) and would be told, what would you know you're a fake plastic bimbo etc...

Just to add I have had a boob job and Botox but nothing else! I am dark blonde but hardly the classic 'bimbo' type

People literally think you cannot read? That is truly nuts.

xsquared · 04/07/2023 15:08

I think if people have never met you before and you are strikingly beautifu, then you will get some sort of attention, both positive and negative.

As an example, dh and I were in a restaurant once and I spotted from a distance a tall, tanned, well dressed blonde lady with an enviable figure. I remarked to dh that she looked like a model. Later on that evening, she got out of her seat and headed in the direction of the ladies, and two women at another table turned their heads to glare at her as she walked past them. One of them rolled her eyes at the other.

No idea what she's like as a person of course, but I guess some people may have already formed a negative opinion of you, when you stand out.

DontBeBitterGlitter2023 · 04/07/2023 15:09

@DentonFarley sorry that made me laugh 🤣 they're obviously joking but the implication is there...

legalbeagleneeded · 04/07/2023 15:13

No. Attractive people are treated more favourably by everyone.

BanditsOnTheHorizon · 04/07/2023 15:26

I 'used' to be classed as attractive and never really had an issue with other women, I actually think I got spoke to more when I was young and attractive, than I do as a middle aged, grey overweight woman.

Barold · 04/07/2023 16:04

Science reckons it often depends whether the person has high-trust or low-trust features (taking aloofness, arseholery, etc. out of the equation).

So women might not immediately warm to Megan Fox the way they would warm to Blake Lively (two random examples).

While more beautiful/polished/whatever people are said get better treatment generally, I'd say there's nuance.

LaMaG · 04/07/2023 16:35

Personally I think society treats attractive people more favourably in social interactions, like getting served in a shop etc and maybe interviews. But it can be the opposite within more constant situations like a friend group or work situation. It's natural to feel a bit intimidated or uncomfortable if you are plainer, same as if you may feel intimidated by a more educated or successful person. I think the beautiful person has the added burden of needing to prove the intimidation is unnecessary. So it adds a layer of complication to a relationship from the outset.

Tibbb · 04/07/2023 16:45

Women stare at you, look you up and down and/or give you dirty looks. Exclude you from their cliques. Talk about you behind your back. Back stab. Discuss your appearance with other women. Get protective of their partners when you're around. Other beautiful women are nice to you.

Women scrutinise for flaws in your appearance or personality and discuss them with you or other women.

Women think you are flirting with men, even if you are not, and just sitting or standing chatting, e.g. to a male work colleague.

Women see you as a threat and also make a play for your man.

Men smile at you, wink at you, stare at you, compliment you, wolf whistle, some get flustered and blush.

threadfan · 04/07/2023 17:59

I have some news for you.....

threadfan · 04/07/2023 17:59

Snoofox02 · 03/07/2023 23:18

No. I find people are generally happy to chat with me

I have some news for you

Echio · 04/07/2023 18:02

@OrkneyBird I don't think it's anything as 'obvious' as that but a case of unconscious bias, how we perceive intelligence, success etc. Also things like networking, how 'presentable' you are to the outside world etc. Since it works for both men and women I don't think it's 'men recruiting attractive women' in a blatant 'I fancy them' way - it's more subtle things at play that overall add up to bias towards attractive people. Eg tallness in men - there's an old stat that still holds true about each inch in the city getting you extra £££

Anotherparkingthread · 04/07/2023 18:23

I'm considered attractive, especially so when I was younger. I was a size 0, 5ft 9, naturally blond, I turned heads a lot.

All of girlfriends my male friends have had over the years have absolutely hated me. Some would occasionally masquerade as wanting to be friends but often only to get close enough to either keep an eye on me or tell me to back off from their boyfriend. I have never had any interest in any of my male friends, I've known them for years and if something was going to happen it would have long before the various girlfriends came along.
Women, especially those older than me, have always been quite standoffish and blunt with me, sometimes as they get to know me this mellows, I think once they realise I'm not some type of predator. I think most women assume I will have an anonymous ego as well, as I spend a lot of time on my looks, cosmetic treatments, hair always done, expensive and tasteful make up and clothes. I actually do all of this because I'm quite insecure.
I have had a female acquaintances unfollow me and distance themselves after I've posted holiday pictures (bikini pics but not risqué or like a photoshoot, just normal happy beach pics). I know the pictures were the reason through a mutual friend.

Men on the other hand have always treated me very well and I am aware that this is entirely pretty privilege. Men kind of fall into 3 categories, the worst kind are the ones who treat me well as they expect something out of it. Then there's the oblivious ones who aren't aware they are doing it at all, and would say they treat everybody the same (they don't!) and then there is a specific demographic of older men who are kind and maybe a little protective, I think they see me as quite innocent/funny/childlike, and treat me more like a daughter or young family member despite not being a relative.

I've never had a woman instantly warm to me, but most men do immediately.

Rosietheravisher · 04/07/2023 19:55

DrSbaitso · 04/07/2023 13:18

No, but it's considered an attractive trait.

In the West.

DrSbaitso · 04/07/2023 20:02

Rosietheravisher · 04/07/2023 19:55

In the West.

Yes, but I'm assuming that's where most of us are.

Lizardonachair · 04/07/2023 20:24

Sometimes I think the "glares" are actually other women checking the attractive woman out and trying to be subtle. Being good looking attracts attention but it doesn't mean people are "glaring".

user6482959 · 04/07/2023 20:41

I'm really good looking and I struggle with most women, especially in the workplace. My male colleagues and friends have noticed too.

I have good looking and confident girlfriends, we stick together and we don't see each other as threats.

EggWind · 04/07/2023 20:45

I agree attractive people are generally treated better. However, there's defo a type that feels intimidated by attractive women IMO. Sometimes women that play on their own looks and don't like it when they perceive themselves as inferior/second best to a newcomer.

I'm probs slightly above average looking but no supermodel, but I've got a good body as I lift weights a lot. I used to work with three overweight women and they'd sit there making comments to each other about how they couldn't understand why people would spend so much effort just to look good for others etc. I ignored it and smiled to myself when they would almost die walking up the stairs to the meeting room.

Stickybackplasticbear · 04/07/2023 20:57

There's tons of research proving classically attractive people are treated better.

ZellyFitzgerald · 04/07/2023 21:38

I have an interesting perspective on this as someone who went from conventionally unattractive to 'attractive' almost overnight.

I was born with facial disfigurements and was bullied horrifically both at school and outside of school too.

I had comments made to me, not just by children but adults too. I honestly felt like I didn't deserve a place in the world because of how I looked.

When I was 17 and my bones were ready, I had my whole face reconstructed by an amazing surgeon. I now have my skull held together with 7 metal plates. It took months to recover but when the swelling had gone down I was surprised to find that I was actually beautiful.

It took a lot of getting used to, but when I started going out again the change was immediate and the contrast to how I was treated before was so stark.

Suddenly people wanted to talk to me, men particularly. People were helpful and kind and went out of their way to talk to me or do things for me. Iside I was still the same but suddenly it felt like people thought I was worth knowing.

I've battled body dysmorphia ever since due to the nature of the transformation. It took a long time for my brain to catch up with the mirror.

I've never had women treat me poorly because of my looks but I'm still not very confident or outgoing which could be why.

My experience is that attractive people are always treated better than those less so, I wish it wasn't the case, but it is.

DontBeBitterGlitter2023 · 04/07/2023 21:44

@ZellyFitzgerald wow what an amazing story, honestly thanks for sharing

I had a serious car accident a few years ago which disfigured my face quite a bit - after surgery it was mostly superficial but a lot of scarring and I was terrified to leave the house for a long time. To top it off my (abusive) boyfriend at the time and his mother used to call me scar face and think it was funny

After a lot of years and treatments I know I look pretty good again but I know how hard it can be ❤️

DrSbaitso · 04/07/2023 21:53

To top it off my (abusive) boyfriend at the time and his mother used to call me scar face and think it was funny

What absolute shitbags.

5128gap · 04/07/2023 22:07

Its odd to me there's no consensus amongst the beautiful on here. Some saying they get this constantly and others not at all.
Surely if its true that women are horrible to beautiful women, all beautiful women would have experienced this?