Are attractive women treated worse by other women

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My best friend since primary school is a beauty. 5'10, long, thick gorgeous hair, pretty face, nice figure, etc. She's a lovely person too. We were out the other weekend and I noticed other women were really stand off-ish with her (thru no fault of her own, she was V polite and chatty)! I'm average looking, a 6/10 if I'm really dressed up maybe and don't have this problem. Attractive women, is this common?

And dolls and unattainable stars have noth8ng to do with real life and acceptance.

Plus men look for different things in a mate than women do. I have been married twice to talk, successful and wealthy men. I've never gone looking for an attractive mate.

Tall men that should say, but I do like intelligent chat

And yes, I know you're going to call me a gold digger etc. the stage is open for the latest slur

And honestly I don't understand why women feel the need to compete with each other. It's damn easy to get a man to have sex with you. And it's usually disappointing.

Ah but a beautiful woman is more likely to bag a wealthy successful man . I really do think that most women feel a pang of envy going by what I have witnessed working in an all female environment and being educated in an all girls school it was rife . I think it's because true beauties don't have to try in the looks department where as most of us , myself included need props such as make up , clothes etc .

I've definitely become a lot more invisible as I've aged into my mid 40s, I was a looker when I was young and was on the receiving end of dirty looks and exclusion from a lot of social life from other girls at school and some women, makes me very glad to be a tired and wrinkly now!

Anyone beautiful when young is highly likely to be better than average amongst their peer group whatever their age, so I think this is often less about declining looks, and more about one's peers not caring one way or another once they've grown up a bit.
Competition and spite over looks are very immature traits, which the vast majority of women grow out of if they had them in the first place. As is a preoccupation with one's own looks and where that places us on the hierarchy. As women mature other markers of success and satisfaction are prioritised. While most of us may prefer to be good looking than not, and many of us try to 'make the best of ourselves' I believe far fewer mature women see looks as their or another woman's defining characteristic than some people seem to think.
I don't know how old the beauties are on here who feel women hate them for their looks, but it does seem to me they've got themselves stuck in a mindset others grow out of or are mixing exclusively with similarly 'arrested' women.

It can happen - anecdotally I know of it happening but it isn't a linear situation where it happens every time. People are people - regardless of sex, some people are nice, some nasty.

@5128gap none of that is true.

Solid rebuttal there.

As usually happens on these threads, the women who insist on putting everything down to jealousy are anticipating jealous/nasty responses before anyone has made them (eg, assuming someone is going to call them a gold digger). Then, when they get anything other than total agreement, they...put it down to jealousy.

The women who have a more nuanced or completely different perception on how their beauty affects other women also have a more nuanced or sophisticated outlook in general.

I once had a Jordanian hotelier offer me a free stay in his hotel. I'm not beautiful. But I was 24 and a good dancer and completely drunk. I wonder how much of this is common to women who aren't stunners, but are just young with nothing obviously physically off-putting.

No

I was always told this by my mother. I realised in my early 20’s that this wasn’t true though

I think you can play into that rivalry

I have a friend who was one of the most beautiful women I have ever seen. Everyone loves her as she is just so nice too

Its my Lived Experience. 🙂

As usually happens on these threads, the women who insist on putting everything down to jealousy are anticipating jealous/nasty responses before anyone has made them (eg, assuming someone is going to call them a gold digger). Then, when they get anything other than total agreement, they...put it down to jealousy.

The women who have a more nuanced or completely different perception on how their beauty affects other women also have a more nuanced or sophisticated outlook in general
Completely agree with you.

There's a lot of attractive women who don't go through life convinced everyone is looking at them, is jealous of them, feels envy of them, hates them for being beautiful, is giving them evils for being pretty etc.

One million percent yes they are. I have a friend who is beyond stunning to look at and amazing on the inside too and she never says a bad word against anyone. She gets left out of plans, put down behind her back, people critique her weight infront of her as she's a size 6 ( my size 18 friend gets none of this, rightfully so ) and generally I've found that people call her boring as she won't bitch with them. I've heard another woman say 'lovely to look at but my god she's vacant' about her on a hen weekend away. If vacant translates to 'I have nothing else to say about her that is bad so I'll go for boring' then that's probably a good thing. She's had nastiness at work, whenever she achieves anything it's ignored or played down and although she's married now to a lovely man when she previously had trouble with her boyfriend she also got sod all empathy even though he cheated on her as though people don't care when you're so attractive it's perceived you'll move on okay. The Kate Middleton thread still going on today really shows that everything people on here say they're not to other women is a massive lie. I was always bought up to be happy for other people no matter what they had in life and I'm so glad, can't imagine how wretched it must feel for jealous women to be around someone who has what they perceive to be something worth envying and feel awful for it.

I'm not talking Pretty/ attractive women , I'm talking Beautiful women who are few and far between . I do think it's instinctive just as it's instinctive for men to feel a jolt of jealousy toward tall muscular alpha men . Some act upon this jolt some dont .

I've heard another woman say 'lovely to look at but my god she's vacant'...

Obviously that's not a kind thing to say, but why are you so sure it's not true? If people ignore her etc, why must that be because she's pretty and not because she just isn't interesting company?

maybe it's because she senses the hostility and retreats into herself ? Or maybe she tries to be warm and bubbly but is snubbed or ignored so she gives up trying ?

You are determined not to believe people when they say it's because they find her boring. Why that is, I don't know, but it's totally in line with other posters' misogyny-based thought processes.

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(a bit embarrassed to say) I have been considered attractive all of my life, and have had both advantages and disadvantages in life. I can say I have been harassed by police quite often, hearing them say to me, "I bet you get your way all the time." I am a medical professional and try to stay under the radar. But I have been terminated by the standard "less attractive" female as well. I consider myself friendly and love to make new friends. But I personally feel that I have had a hard time in some respects

You were dismissed by a less attractive female manager from a professional medical role, for no other reason than you are more attractive than her? How on earth did she get away with it and justify her decision? And how did you discover it was due to her jealousy of your looks?

If you're significantly above average in looks, then most encounters you have will be with people who are less attractive than you. Is that going to account for everything anyone ever does with you or just the stuff that you weren't pleased about?

One of my ex friends is extremely attractive in a way that generally was admired by men rather than other women - big arse but tiny figure, long blonde hair etc rather than being facially beautiful. She has no female friends because of revelling in how attractive she was, how it’s always her getting chatted up and no one else (in her head etc). I’m extremely average but get compliments from other women on my dress sense, kindness etc and would prefer that. But some of my other friends are extremely beautiful and kind and get treated well by women because of this