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Are attractive women treated worse by other women

275 replies

Paaooolo · 03/07/2023 23:17

My best friend since primary school is a beauty. 5'10, long, thick gorgeous hair, pretty face, nice figure, etc. She's a lovely person too. We were out the other weekend and I noticed other women were really stand off-ish with her (thru no fault of her own, she was V polite and chatty)! I'm average looking, a 6/10 if I'm really dressed up maybe and don't have this problem. Attractive women, is this common?

OP posts:
DrSbaitso · 04/07/2023 07:07

After I improved my looks significantly, I found other women were nicer to me.

DrSbaitso · 04/07/2023 07:13

LolaSmiles · 04/07/2023 06:42

This. I know one who is knee deep in friends because she's lovely. Another who I don't see any more because 'women hate me'. No love, you flirt with their partners. Always
I was thinking the same thing.

It's rarely about the looks and more about the behaviour.

We had this discussion on here a couple of years ago. One woman admitted to getting served first in a bar, over people who she knew had been waiting longer, and didn't correct the barman. She got a frosty response, and insisted it was because she was beautiful rather than because she'd knowingly queue jumped.

Another woman told us about the horrible harassment her beautiful daughter had experienced. Several ordinary looking posters replied that they'd had the exact same experience (what woman hasn't been street
harassed?). She got very angry and accused them of invalidating her daughter.

SamW98 · 04/07/2023 07:21

MrsTerryPratchett · 04/07/2023 01:25

This. I know one who is knee deep in friends because she's lovely. Another who I don't see any more because 'women hate me'. No love, you flirt with their partners. Always.

Yep this one flirts with the partners, tells the world that they obviously fancy her and sneers at the ‘poor’ wives calling them jealous frumpy bitches.

Told me several times she’s never really had female friends because of jealousy - yet my circle were happy to invite her out with us for months until we saw the way she treated our friends wives and gfs.

Comedycook · 04/07/2023 07:24

I've noticed that women who are most popular with other women are pretty but in a very bland, non sexy way.

Toomuchrubbishonnetflix · 04/07/2023 07:28

Echo what others have said - the women who are ‘other women hate me because they’re jealous of my beauty’ are wrong, they hate you because you flirt with their partners. I have known several like this in my lifetime. Equally attractive women who don’t do that are perfectly well liked. It’s the behaviour, not the looks that’s the problem.

Fairyliz · 04/07/2023 07:33

Personally I think women dislike other women who are slim.
Good looks are generally genetic so out of our control. However anyone can be slim it’s just a matter of watching what you eat. Slim women prove it can be done and just show up a lack of willpower.

Sendmymillioninaninvoice · 04/07/2023 07:33

Can’t speak for myself but I’ve seen both. Women getting favours as high status, attractive people(although their worth is defined only by their looks) and women getting slated “who does she think she is?”. Also fear that the good looking woman will steal their man or that their man will be distracted by her which makes them jealous. I’ve seen attractive women treated terrivlbly for this reason.

AngryGreasedSantaCatcus · 04/07/2023 07:33

Some men and women that are very attractive have a type of confidence that is in fact arrogance. " I've arrived!" type thing. That becomes quite off putting after a while and the eye rolls replace the awe . Then this is seen as jealousy, bullying, being mean etc. No mate, your shit smells just like everyone else's.

Meeting · 04/07/2023 07:34

100% yes. I'm similar body type to what you describe and used to do quite a 'glamorous' job. Other women looked down on me and automatically spoke to me like I was stupid, despite being a highly qualified professional in my field and training like an athlete.

Agix · 04/07/2023 07:42

I felt I was treated better by everyone, including women, when I was more attractive

Rosietheravisher · 04/07/2023 07:43

You might not have that extra thing that some women have.

when I was younger I looked more of a model type and had no end of problems with other women. And men. Men used to stop me in the street and women used to hate me. Now I have gained a bit men don’t give me as much attention and more women want to be friends with me. I prefer it this way.

Rosietheravisher · 04/07/2023 07:44

Oh, and now I am much older women are nicer.

Superdupes · 04/07/2023 07:52

I ended up in a dorm at college with 2 gorgeous girls, they were certainly more popular with everyone than me! One of my friends at school was very gorgeous, her mum was considered a MILF by the boys again always had a lot of female friends and male attention.

OrkneyBird · 04/07/2023 08:00

It's not her good looks it's what she does with them and how she conducts herself.

If she's pretty but dresses relatively modestly, not so flash and is kind and humble she will be loved by other women.

If she keeps leading with her body, dresses for the male gaze, bitchy, has a judgy unfriendly face then she won't be liked by women.

There are women where their beauty is intimidating and some who have a friendly face, irrespective of their personalities as I've known an innocent looking baby faced woman a total bitch and a mean looking woman who is really kind and nice.

I think women don't like other women who lead with their sexuality and body, who hangs out a lot with taken men and flirty even if it's her nature and she means nothing by it.

5128gap · 04/07/2023 08:16

I'm not sure. For one thing I find it difficult to imagine the type of look nearly every woman would be jealous of. There are different ideas of beauty and not everyone wants to be 5' 10" or look like Courtney Cox, so that reduces the pool of the potentially spiteful. It's further reduced by women who aren't spiteful. Further still by the jealous who wouldn't show it. So I find it surprising its a prevalent as some believe. I think things like that can happen when you're young and it's competitive and there's more insecurity and less restraint and then the idea is in your head, and the smallest thing is attributed to it.
I think more often there can be negativity towards women who play up their looks, so a nice figure won't necessarily inspire animosity but a nice figure shown off in tight clothes might. Which is more about the idea that we're not supposed to 'flaunt ourselves'.

CadMan · 04/07/2023 08:19

Try it yourself OP. It’s a combination of attractiveness and engagement. People who look attractive just get more attention, and whether it’s positive or negative depends on their attitude to the observer.

Looking attractive and engaging? People are nicest.

Looking attractive but not engaging? People are worst.

Looking unattractive but engaging? People are alright.

Looking unattractive and not engaging? People tend to not notice you.

Echio · 04/07/2023 08:20

Statistically an attractive woman is more likely to get a higher paid job and have a more attractive husband so I'm not sure this is at all true. (I read this on the guardian a couple of days ago)

FormerlyPathologicallyHappy · 04/07/2023 08:26

I think it’s true. I’m very slim and I think that’s the tipping point.

I walked into a shop with dh and a group of three women turned round to give me evils. I was dressed as any other woman of 35 odd.

Dh and I hadn’t been seeing each other long when we went shopping to the bullring and halfway round he said other women don’t like you do they based on the amount of glares I’d had.

Ironically I was bullied for 5 years solid in school for being fat and plain so you can’t win.

But your not allowed to say any of this on here because lived experience counts for nothing and other women will pile on to say your imagining it 🤷🏻‍♀️

CadMan · 04/07/2023 08:29

I’m counting attractiveness as not just weight and features. It’s 90% poise, posture, money and grooming. Courtney Cox with weathered, dry skin and wrinkles, scowling, in stretched cheap clothes in Poundland on a Wednesday afternoon wouldn’t get a second glance from most people.

OrangeBoatSailor · 04/07/2023 08:31

I think confidence and smiles get you positive attention.

Though yes, attractiveness is scientifically proven to yield positive results in the job market.

I have always been slim and have never had negativity towards me from any woman. Perhaps I am oblivious, who knows.

I am very average. I can look bad with zero effort. And look good with lots of effort. I love seeing attractive people; it’s like good art! But I don’t treat anyone differently because of how they look.

It is depressing to read about people who are treated badly because they are beautiful. That’s not fair.

CadMan · 04/07/2023 08:32

FormerlyPathologicallyHappy · 04/07/2023 08:26

I think it’s true. I’m very slim and I think that’s the tipping point.

I walked into a shop with dh and a group of three women turned round to give me evils. I was dressed as any other woman of 35 odd.

Dh and I hadn’t been seeing each other long when we went shopping to the bullring and halfway round he said other women don’t like you do they based on the amount of glares I’d had.

Ironically I was bullied for 5 years solid in school for being fat and plain so you can’t win.

But your not allowed to say any of this on here because lived experience counts for nothing and other women will pile on to say your imagining it 🤷🏻‍♀️

It’s more likely that being bullied and feeling attacked in your formative years has given you a standoffish or defensive air and that’s what people are reacting to.

It’s not something you can see about loved ones because you’re close to them and know their mannerisms, but I bet if there was a way to get impartial feedback (which of course there isn’t), other women would say you give off unfriendly vibes.

bryceQ · 04/07/2023 08:35

I'm described as pretty...I feel like I'm treated nicely by people. Everyone is always very helpful and warm towards me. This isn't the case for my black DH, he is continuously regarded with suspicion.

Prettylittleroses · 04/07/2023 08:36

I sadly think op you have your answer by some of the comments on this thread, which demonstrates the issue that exists, so many horrible comments about well if you’re bitchy, have an air of arrogance, flirt with blokes, show your body off then women don’t like you.

Prettylittleroses · 04/07/2023 08:37

bet if there was a way to get impartial feedback (which of course there isn’t), other women would say you give off unfriendly vibes

by walking into a shop? You give off unfriendly vibes so women give you filthy looks. Cmon now.

whodawhodaeho · 04/07/2023 08:40

No, not in my experience. In my experience, good looking men and women usually get positive attention, not negative.
My children are conventionally 'attractive' and it seems to be making their life a lot easier in general, people respond to them in a very positive way.
Although I am worried about the attention they get around their looks, as it's superficial and I'm worried about the attention the girl in particular will get from grown men now she's heading into her teens.

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