Trans etc at school / all going too far?

[Peverellshire]

AIBU to think that there are a growing number of below 16s identifying as opposite gender?

Incidents in school where pupils called out for not acknowledging ‘Brian is now fully Bryony’. Etc. As example.

AIBU to think that these sensitive discussions and explorations should all be realised, if appropriate, post school, when children are young adults? For many reasons. Pref Pronouns in primary school, ok?

Lol, I am thinking of what my very strict Maths teacher would make of this!

Seriously, I am all for freedom of expression but imagine, cats & dogs in double maths…

IF a child wants to be, genuinely, a furry animal, they need to be treated with compassion & in therapy explore.

I am thinking of my spirited sons joining in with woofs & purrs. I don’t envy the teachers…

Waiting patiently for that new guidance.

Again, I wonder who or what entity is pushing trans ideology and all these labels like asexual, non-binary, trans, there’s dozens of categories, onto young children and teens? In schools, governments, news orgs, businesses, culture, the trans agenda is systematically installed and enforced, promoted, rewarded, with people who disagree being punished. By ….?

Do you all not realize that you vote for the people and support the people who push this agenda that preys on children? Immersing them in trans ideology, making them think they have to bind their body parts, reject their bodies, not accept their bodies, to confuse them.

I’ve read these threads and nobody is connecting the dots, it’s as if posters act like this stuff has come up randomly here and there with no origin or no one behind it. I mean, when this craziness is being pushed into so many schools, govt agencies, policies, business practices, list goes on. Think. It’s political. And celebrities and ‘experts’ are brought in to prop it up. And parties and entities that are not on board are either cowed into submission or infiltrated and taken over.

Some of the things they’re doing, sexualizing children, we can’t stand for that. They’re making children into sex objects, making children and teens and young people believe that everything revolves around some sexual identity that requires them to reject their bodies, take puberty blockers, bind their body parts, this is complete craziness. This is not about accepting the few who genuinely feel different or have issues. This is something much different than that.

Omg - I can identify as a cat?! Will someone adopt me and let me lie on their bed/sofa all day and night? I’ll even just eat the dry kibble food if this is what I need to do for the cushy existence of doing bugger all!!! F!cking mad world😬

Apparently some are on all fours in the playground. Manage to walk around on two legs for the corridors.
I don’t know exact numbers but there’s enough for a sub club of the LGBTQIA’s+ group.

I don’t envy the teachers navigating this either.

fuck me. I’ve missed a trick

”can’t work, I’m a cat”

whilst also shitting in my neighbours garden

I agree with @Createausername1970 .

So if it is only happening in the playground why does it matter?

I thought furries was a sexual thing?

It's all a sexual thing for the men online and rainbow families. Who has an interest in lots of people never going past puberty I wonder? Mentally as well as stunted growth. Hmm, big pharma and map maybe?

So are drag queens but they are brought in to do library story hour and there’s also places dressing up little boys as drag queens to entertain adult men, with foolish mothers, bringing their own children to watch, to cheer them on. This world has gone stark raving mad.

So yes, there is a sexual element to all this. Pushed onto children. On purpose.

And safeguarding encouraging secrets, your family don't understand you, anyone who questions this literally wants you to die, def cut off your mum and talk intimately to older weirdos online instead. Maybe the school refer you to mermaids who encourage discord chats and employ very dubious characters.

I think we’ve regressed in the majority to the mindset that being gay is the issue and ‘if I change gender it will feel more acceptable’. I have supported many trans people in a professional capacity (support worker) and I can’t tell you how many struggled with the thought of ‘just being gay’ rather than a female trapped in a male body.

Their flippancy to change gender/pronouns on a frequent basis and constantly had to reassure flings that they’re a trans woman so they couldn’t possibly be gay and the opposite they’re a man just experimenting to female flings for their reassurance.

I feel the crux is an identity crisis and wanting a sense of belonging.

That's so sad.
I was in school in the 80s and never came put because of culture then, had thought greater acceptance now.

Yep. Nobody in my whole year group at school was homosexual, yet bizarrely quite a few came out shortly after leaving school. Amazing what tolerance beings

Being tolerant of sexuality is not remotely similar to encouraging vulnerable or peer-influenced children in their incorrect belief that they can change sex or that they can fit in better or escape their problems by pretending to be something they can never actually be. A whole generation of these children are going to end up rightfully very angry with the misguided adults who failed them and lied to them.

The sooner we realise just who benefits from all these kids who have no idea who they are or what they are , whp will place themselves in vulnerable situations ( young females in men's loos anyone? ) , happy to reveal personal details to unchecked adults on line while teachers keep secrets from parents and remove safguarding the better. This is not for the kids benefit I assure you.

We should ask ourselves, where are all the.lesbians , they are now all " straight" boys... trans away the gay
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Not just angry @Fairislefandango Possibly mutilated, on drugs for rest of their life, brittle bones through using puberty blockers, breasts misshapen through use of binders. Never mind their mental well-being.

YANBU

I think there needs to be a ban on all gender and name changes during school.

Some children do need to change their name for various reasons which is fine but it should be dealt with by the head of year and discussed with their parents and confirmed and the register changed.

The gender/pronouns should not be changed.

As a secondary school teacher I get very confused with students who chop and change from one gender to the next.

I had a student who said they identified as a male and could I please call them ‘Ben’ and use the pronouns he/him. This was a couple of years ago now and I was more than happy to do it because I have no issue with transgender people and wanted them to feel comfortable in my class.

It was very difficult because they looked female and SIMS had their female name on.
One time I accidentally called the original name out on the register and I was reported for misgendering them.
Then one day I had my class observation and called ‘Ben’ Ben and used the pronouns he/him as I was careful to use after being reported. They then ran out of the class crying and screaming that I had embarrassed them because I used Ben and he/him (which they asked me to do and reported me for not doing) and I later found out that only certain teachers were aware that the student only wanted certain teachers knowing they were identifying as Ben and he/him.

It is honestly an absolute mind field and in a class of 30 I had at least 6 students identifying as someone thing else but it also kept changing.
When you’ve got 6 classes of 30 students then it gets very confusing.

I think save the change of names and pronouns for breaks snd hometime and keep it as it says on SIMS for school staff.

i didn’t say it was an issue
they are furries the entire time, so hiss, purr, scratch, bark, pant etc the whole time. Someone asked about being on all fours, I said that was just in the playground (can you call it that at secondary?)

I completely agree.

I would say the majority of trans students are actually gay but they believe either that won’t be accepted or I fancy boys/girls so that must mean I identify as the opposite sex, instead of admitting to themselves that they are just gay.

This! This is absolutely ridiculous. Whoever sees this as progress is utterly deluded.

Whilst I don’t doubt there are genuine trans people - it seems to be a trend to be anything other than heterosexual at my nieces high school, in her friendship group anyway.

Her friendship group consists of about 10 people, 8 of them have declared they are either trans gender, bi or gay in the last 2 years. Perhaps some of them are, I’m not convinced they all are though. They change their minds so frequently & seem to base their whole personality on it.
My niece herself has said she’s a lesbian, then bi, then trans ( in her own words, because she’s not ‘super girly’)
She’s 15 now & says she doesn’t like labels, but is ‘hetero’

Dn has seemed so confused these last couple of years, lots of falling out with friends & MH issues, however, things seem to be calming down & gender talk not as prevalent. I’ve never known anything like it.

I really don’t envy kids at high school these days, I think it sounds way more complicated and mentally challenging then when I was a teenager back in the early 00s.

I'm not saying some are not genuine but this bull shit is going to smack us in the face in the not so distant future. It's gone to far

We’re doing the young people of this generation a huge disservice and huge harm by encouraging this nonsense.

Yanbu, think this is a load of garbage really. Seems more like a fad to stand out or seek attention. It's not possible that the number of children who suddenly want to identify as the opposite is correct. A child of 9,10 wanting to be the opposite is just nonsense.