Trans etc at school / all going too far?

[Peverellshire]

AIBU to think that there are a growing number of below 16s identifying as opposite gender?

Incidents in school where pupils called out for not acknowledging ‘Brian is now fully Bryony’. Etc. As example.

AIBU to think that these sensitive discussions and explorations should all be realised, if appropriate, post school, when children are young adults? For many reasons. Pref Pronouns in primary school, ok?

Shortened names or nick names are a false equivalence though.

Gender in school is imposing a belief system on others which has implications for others (mostly girls).

If a boy says he is a girl then why should a girl have to go along with this if she knows it is not true, why should she have to put up with this person in single sex spaces and changing rooms?

I don't respect people denying their sex though - it's like respecting someone who Denys climate change

I don't respect an ideology that leads to harmful practises

I don't respect anyone who thinks that m you can change sex, or that your sex determines anything about you beyond reproductive capability

In fact having had a life marred by sexist attitudes and assumptions and bullying ( for none conforming) it take it as a bloody insult

Isn’t it mainly teenage girls coming out as trans? Teachers will be able to elaborate with that. While really unusual for older women - even say over 25s?

Whereas with men it’s the other way round.

Oh ceicly a sex based difference !

It's damaging because it's all the rage. I have no problem with someone being genuinely trans. But most aren't. Plus the sad thing is that no one can change sex anyway, so it's all a bit pointless.

I find it a very regressive ideology. A progressive one would be one that properly broke down gender stereotypes leaving no need to identify with any of them. It would make the whole concept of trans unnecessary and indeed invalid. It would mean that people accept their bodies as they are and accept that one can't change some aspects of it, including how tall you are, size of your feet, your sex. It's sad to see such backward steps be celebrated. It shows us how threatened some men are by the idea of positive discrimination I think.

Forgive me, but ‘furries’ are now accepted in primary school? Can you expand on how they are accommodated? In my day the only ‘furries’ in Primary were the class soft toys (bears)…

The name suggests where this has come from, ‘furries’, who knew this was the generic name for a soft toy until recently (?)

You're clearly not interested in why this is happening. Most children who identify as trans are girls. There's also a higher proportion of children who have autism, likely to be gay or lesbian and/or with a background of abuse, including sexual abuse likely to identify as trans. They have trauma, they don't fit in and/or they have a disability and they think they can dissociate themselves from their bodies and solve all their problems by "transitioning". They need counselling and therapy, not adults colluding and encouraging them. Especially not in schools, not by teachers.

Ah, pp, you said Y7, I see..Y7s who want to be a cuddly animal…etc..

Yeah, insee in FB how aquintances kids follow whatever is the flavour of the month- being lesbian or gay or not decided if they are a boy or a girl or somewhere in between, whatever gets them attention. My children are home educated,sending them to madhouses that are called schools in the UK is unthinkable. I am originally from another country, would not have any problems sending my children school there, none of the 110+ genders nonsense or elementary aged kids being told about their teachers sex life (yes my local primary school has a board with rainbows explaining that one of the teachers is a lesbian..)

Seems strange that there's suddenly such a boom in one year group. I wonder what the underlying factor is - disruption and too much Internet during the pandemic?

https://www.mailplus.co.uk/edition/news/society/268952/hi-your-daughters-now-a-boy...-just-letting-you-know

i wouldn’t have any problem with changed names as long as it’s consistent and they don’t keep changing. After all, there’s nothing except convention that makes names gendered. However, we generally call people you when we are with them. When talking about someone, we might be able to remember a different pronoun to what we’d normally expect if it’s just the odd person, but when a lot of people are asking for something different, it puts rather a strain on memory.

I wonder who or what entity is pushing the trans ideology in schools, governments, and culture?

No it’s secondary. Yes they are accepted, they have to wear school uniform but basically walk around being cats or dogs.

I appreciate this is now going to be in the fucking cubting daily mail

My DD proclaimed herself to be asexual, but now she admits that it’s because she was afraid of boys and dating.
She’s mid 20’s now and happily living with a man.
People need to be given time to mature and find out how they feel, not to be asked to label themselves so young

Oh yeah, I’ve no doubt some are. i think there’s algorithms feeding it with social media reaffirming feelings and stances. It’s also them finding their feet at secondary and fitting in. For some (the ones I know personally) I think it’s a bit of a rejection of puberty.
I just hope they are not boxed too early and are allowed to reverse their decision if it’s what they wish

In talking to some of dds friends they seem to have lots of different names and some names relate to different aspects of personality

they will be talking about someone and I won’t have a fucking clue, so ask. They will then reel off the list of other names they use.

Adults advocating for children to engage in this and TRAs in general have questionable motives. A lot of them are probably satisfying their own fetishes and should be nowhere around children for safeguarding reasons.

How common is it do you think? Surely this is vanishingly rare?

I’d quite like to identify as Paddington or a Womble, although the outfit might make me a bit hot if school has aircon…

Ever the teacher, I am now thinking I could harness as a teaching initiative! Love Elizabeth Beresford!

Vegetables - do you mean they are on all fours ? Hunting rats ?

It’s the opposite of progress unless you’re looking for a more sexist, homophobic society that sterilise children based on what toys they play with.

This.

How on earth can it be progress to think that if a boy doesn’t like stereotypically ‘boy things’ that he must be a girl?

Progress is getting rid of stereotypes and accepting individuality. Boys who don’t like football but do like princesses and like long hair are perfectly acceptable! Girls that shy away from dolls and painted nails are still girls. It’s frightening that we pay more attention to this gender shit that had been made up by society, like ‘dolls are only for girls’, that to biology and just letting kids be kids.

The numbers of ‘trans’ teens and the social contagion is out of control. The numbers of autistic children being harmed by this ideology is very, very concerning. I’m very relieved both of my children think it’s bollocks.

NO aircon, ofc I meant, getting carried away now, ‘Wind in Willows’ does furries…Children’s classics… :)

The Furries thing is real. The only pupil I am aware of wears one of those cat ear headbands, came from the Ariana Grande trend, and black fingerless gloves that are her ‘paws’. Obviously both are against uniform policy, but are allowed. That then causes problems with others wanting to wear non uninform.

When i was a teen i didnt think i was going to get married,didnt even think of kids- i am now in my 30s, married and with 5 children.

Children are being groomed/brainwashed, rainbow theme is a bonus, what child dosent like fun rainbow colors