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AIBU to have made my relatives uncomfortable?

371 replies

SliceOfCakeCupOfTea · 29/06/2023 15:52

I was out at a family dinner last night. Extended family, aunts, uncles, cousins over from out of town along with my parents, and siblings. All had partners there except for my DH (and another cousin's DH) who were at work.

DH and I have been married for a number of years and have a 6 year old DS.
My DB and SIL (calling her that out of ease) have been together 3 years and have a (nearly) 2 year old DD and are expecting another baby later this year.

One of my Auntie's started asking DB when him and SIL were going to get married. They have no intention of getting married but Auntie wouldn't let it go. DB then said that they were too busy to get married and would rather spend their money on their kids, which then made aunt switch her attention on me and the fact that we only have 1 child. She kept going on and on about how DB's DD would at least have a sibling and how we were mean by prioritising our own wants over the 'needs' of DS. This went on and on and was really pissing me off. All of my cousins who have kids have at least 2. We're the only couple with 1 DC

I ended up saying, quite loudly mainly to be heard over her wittering on, that DH and I would have loved to have another DC, we had tried for years but unfortunately for us, it just didn't happen and we don't really expect that to change now.

I will admit, I am still quite 'wounded' about this, I would have loved another DC and it's been really hard watching my DB and SIL announce two pregnancies over the years. I've come to accept that it won't happen but that doesn't mean it doesn't still sting. I must have looked quite sad when I said the above as SIL put her hand on mine and my DM quickly changed the subject. Aunt looked really put out the rest of the meal and was muttering to my Uncle while glancing up at me every so often.

After the meal, my cousin (Auntie's daughter) text me to say that I had made the whole family feel uncomfortable with my 'revelation' and I shouldn't have announced it like that. Apparently Auntie was very miffed in the car ride home.

My DM said I did nothing wrong, SIL said the same. DB thinks I was making too much of a point and could have been politer with what I said.

Should I text or call my Auntie and/or respond to my cousin? I haven't yet because I don't really know what to say!

OP posts:
BlowDryRat · 30/06/2023 19:48

Screw her and your cousin too. Your aunt was very rude and you have nothing to apologise for.

DreamTheMoors · 30/06/2023 19:49

If you stepped on your auntie’s toes, perhaps your auntie needs to pull her feet back into her own space and out of yours.

I’d recommend never apologising to someone for their offensive behavior.
Leave it be unless auntie contacts you. Then let her know that she crossed your personal boundaries and that you’ve nothing to apologise for. End of.
My guess is that this is not the first time auntie has been rude and intrusive.

Imaginemissmarple · 30/06/2023 19:55

SliceOfCakeCupOfTea · 29/06/2023 16:36

Okay. I'm going to reply to cousin.

Planning on saying:

"Hi Cousin, was really nice to see you all and catch up today. Sorry if my revelation was hard to hear. I hadn't wanted to share something so personal over a family get together but it's really difficult when someone keeps asking you why you aren't having more children and telling me I'm selfish. Believe me, I would have rather not had to say anything but I was getting quite upset with all the questions. At least it's out there now and we can all move on and focus on the kids that we do have."

Too much?

Great response!

poor you, terrible, insensitive position for you aunt and cousin to take.

good luck!

ps I only have one child, light of my life!

porridgeisbae · 30/06/2023 19:59

Good for you for speaking out OP. Hopefully she won't mention it again now.

Your aunt and cousin sound awful.

It's not you who was responsible for anyone feeling uncomfortable, it was your aunt, you just responded to her tactlessly going on and on.

Yourcatisnotsorry · 30/06/2023 20:11

You did nothing wrong your aunt is BU in both badgering you about it and now making you the bad guy. I’m so sorry your longed for second baby hasn’t arrived yet and I hope you find peace with your family size.

Simplelobsterhat · 30/06/2023 20:14

I think you do need to send that reply to your cousin, and make sure you include the part about her calling you selfish, so it is clear she was actually being very rude to you and telling you off rather than just asking a tactless question!

InSpainTheRain · 30/06/2023 20:15

I'd leave it and not say anything. If someone says something to you ask them why are they takng with you and they should speak to Aunt Wittering. If they persist say you were upset and perhaps she will think next time before she pokes her nose in.

WithMyDamnHighHopes · 30/06/2023 20:17

I’d tell your cousin that it’s her mother she needs to send the text to. Her mother was the one making others uncomfortable. You simply answered. Maybe she’ll think before opening her gob to talk shit next time.

Family or not, your aunt is an arsehole.

MrsRagnarLothbrok · 30/06/2023 20:36

RoseAndRose · 29/06/2023 16:04

I would respond to the cousin.

How depends on how much of a family row you want to have.

My first thought was "I found the repeated questioning on such a private matter thoroughly upsetting, but she would not let the matter rest despite best efforts by me and DH to change the subject. I hope she will never again lecture someone so relentlessly on an intensely personal matter. I fully agree it was neither the time nor the place, but the situation was not of my making"

perfect response, you did nothing wrong she was being rude and insensitive maybe in future she will just shut up

TheBiologyStupid · 30/06/2023 20:49

TheWalrusdidbeseech · 29/06/2023 15:58

Apparently Auntie was very miffed in the car ride home.

she is old enough to know that to keep her nose out of people's business.
Either you don't have more kids because you don't want them, and that has nothing to do with her
or you can't, and she's being a bitch by insulting.

She deserves to be miffed. I would not apologise, but ask for an apology for putting YOU on the spot.

This! ^ Auntie pushed her nose in without consideration of your circumstances or feelings and however hurt she is now is nothing compared to your own heartache. She is the one who should be apologising!

Solonge · 30/06/2023 21:11

you did nothing wrong. Your aunt needs to learn to hold her tongue. Its wrong on every level to hound people about getting married or having children and non of her business. I would say to your cousin that you would have said nothing if your aunt hadnt kept on badgering you and you were very upset but didnt complain, your aunt has nothing to complain about.

vaccinistatotebagchicbarista · 30/06/2023 21:26

All you should be responding is that she made you feel uncomfortable first.

Beyond that, bollocks to her

Badanxiety · 30/06/2023 21:37

I’m so sorry she made you feel like that and made you feel like you needed to explain your situation. I’ve struggled with infertility and it’s hard every time some asked when are you having a baby. Secondary infertility is quite common and not sure if you have had any treatment but if not there is help out there. I’ve had two beautiful boys through fertility treatments both nhs and private x x

BaconChops · 30/06/2023 22:00

NO! You’ve done nothing wrong other than speak the truth. Shame on them for making you second guess yourself.

FurryPelmet · 30/06/2023 22:14

I think the wording of the message you drafted is absolutely perfect. It was absolutely hideously intrusive, rude behaviour from her and she needs to learn from it.

Nicecow · 30/06/2023 22:33

DisforDarkChocolate · 29/06/2023 15:58

Your Aunt needs to feck off. Perhaps this will teach her to keep her nose out.

This. The cheek, maybe she will mind her own business next time. Anyway, no problem with what you shared anyway.

Sarahmille80 · 30/06/2023 22:33

YANBU this is not something that’s should be discussed.

Nicecow · 30/06/2023 22:33

EvilElsa · 29/06/2023 16:10

I'd reply saying that auntie has made YOU uncomfortable and hurt and wouldn't stop talking about the subject which is why you responded honestly. I certainly would not be apologising. I would however be expecting an apology from her!

This!!

Lopoem · 30/06/2023 22:42

Sorry @SliceOfCakeCupOfTea to hear your Aunt was so thoughtless. I absolutely hate this kind of busy body line of questioning. I had similar. I had just had a miscarriage at nearing 12 weeks, we had been trying for 8 months (I realise that isn't really that long compared to others, but I had started panicking it wouldn't happen). The excitement of that pregnancy, followed by the grief of loosing it was really hard. At a family get together my Aunt (who I only saw once a year) asked if me and my husband were planning to have kids. I tried to brush it off and said something like 'at some point'. She very pointedly said 'Don't leave it too long'. I was 34 at the time and already panicking that it wouldn't happen. I didn't respond and if I had I would have burst into tears. I kind of wish I had though, to teach her that that line of questioning is unacceptable. Funnily both her children are older than I was then, are single and without kids. There is a slightly bad part of me that internally smiles at this. And yes, I know IABU.

kalinga · 30/06/2023 22:45

I am SO bloody sick of people assuming that everyone who wants to have a baby CAN effortlessly have a child. It is a damaging, offensive assumption that is just not supported by reality. Your aunt owes you an apology for being so thoughtless, and, unless your response was screeched in her face, then it was a perfectly good, measured response that you can be proud of.

Iamintheatticandproud · 30/06/2023 22:58

Maray1967 · 29/06/2023 16:06

Exactly this. How dare your cousin text you that? What the hell???

My view is that people who have a go at others for not having a second child deserve to be made to feel uncomfortable. I have delivered robust responses similar to yours - the offender looked suitably embarrassed. I regard it as a public service - hopefully they will never do it in future to someone else who might cope less well than I did. If I’d received that text I would have given your cousin a bloody good sermon on her mothers appalling behaviour.

Both of these. Had 2 back to back miscarriages and never managed to conceive after. Too old now. Really wanted a second, but lucky to have had the one. I’m quite blunt about it if people ask, as I find it hard to disseminate. You are not in the wrong here. Your Aunt should be properly mortified at herself for being so very intrusive and thick skinned!

IncreasinglyGrumpy · 30/06/2023 23:09

Your cousin has no place saying anything and your auntie should be the one apologising to you. I had my first son with no issues and struggled to become pregnant again and everyone asking made it so painful - I hope like me that you will again go on to have more if you decide to but in the meantime everyone else needs to support you and keep their opinions to themselves xx

T1Dmama · 01/07/2023 02:09

Having suffered fertility issues for years and finally being blessed with one DD & then never conceiving again, I would’ve blurred out the same as you did!
I would reply to cousin and say ‘your mum kept on and on asking and calling me selfish for only having one child… I feel it is me who is owed the apology because Aunt shouldn’t have kept questioning me on what she should have realised is a private matter! Then leave it there!

it really pisses me off when people say ‘when are you going to have a baby?… ‘don’t leave it too long’…. Are you having more?’ Etc….

I’ve kept IVF cycles secrete from family and friends, years of trying secret, it’s awful that people ask these questions with no consideration of why a couple might be childless or only have 1 !

Im older now but still get asked ‘oh did you only want one?’…. Sometimes I wish I had the nerve to say MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS!! But actually an answer like yours normally shames them into thinking twice before inflicting similar questions onto others!!

Maybe you could actually reply ‘Well maybe in future Auntie X will be more considerate before quizzing people about why they haven’t had another baby yet!’

she should feel embarrassed ! Nosy cow!

BashfulClam · 01/07/2023 02:18

You were not in the wrong. I used to gently say it wasn’t happening but now I say ‘I’ve had 7 miscarriages and I can’t have children!’ Blunt but it shuts them down. Last time was a man at work whilst I was holding a colleagues baby. ‘Ooh any babies on the horizon for you!’ So I said it and he said ‘oh I feel bad now!’ Yes and do you should. People should not push it as they never know the pain someone has gone through.

T1Dmama · 01/07/2023 02:50

SliceOfCakeCupOfTea · 29/06/2023 19:42

Turns out my Mam has messages Auntie.
I've been on the phone to her and mentioned the incident and the text from cousin and asked her advice. Mam said that she wished she had known cousin had text because mam had text Auntie.

She basically told her that she (my mam) has been with me through the years of trying and has witnessed my heartache. She is stunned that auntie didn't read the room and see how uncomfortable I was with her questions. She told her she owes me an apology and hopefully sees that.

Auntie never texts anyone, she's an email type of person so will wait and see if I get one from her.

Well done to your mam! I think it’s great she messaged her sister and told her how inappropriate she’s been!
I hope
your aunt reflects on her behaviour and emails you a genuine heart felt apology.

if/when she apologises don’t say ‘it’s ok’ because it isn’t!!

instead say something like ‘thank you for apology, it’s very much appreciated.

and leave it there!