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To think men can NEVER be mothers

282 replies

Leafstamp · 29/06/2023 13:35

I am furious that men like this think they can call themselves mums/mothers. This deserves a wide audience, hence posting in AIBU.

(11) Paul Embery on Twitter: "ITV news did a piece about the impact of soaring water bills on an everyday mother. So naturally they got a man to play the part. t.co/b0ipO7loUE" / Twitter

https://twitter.com/PaulEmbery/status/1674332639921045505

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TheKeatingFive · 30/06/2023 04:15

A breast pump? WTAF is he planning to do with that? 🙄

Catsanfan · 30/06/2023 04:46

Let's hope they chose a trans woman as no actual woman agreed to the sordid stereotyping on so many levels. Gender ideology is bullshit. Utter misogyny.

Arlcush · 30/06/2023 06:16

GodspeedJune · 29/06/2023 16:19

And the haaka on the draining board. Surely this is satire?!?!?

Stop it 🤣

Swrigh1234 · 30/06/2023 06:18

A climate activist, socialist dude, sorry ‘mother’. A bit of an overkill on woke box ticking.

Swrigh1234 · 30/06/2023 06:21

Rainbowshit · 29/06/2023 23:02

Is there nothing these males won't try to appropriate?! And what's with the breast pump? 🤔

Fetish

Catsanfan · 30/06/2023 06:41

Fetishism. Why the focus on a fucking breast pump?

Labtastic · 30/06/2023 06:52

It was a man that put that washing machine there, with a door that opens the direction it does.

mondaytosunday · 30/06/2023 08:08

When my husband died when my kids were small I got the 'you have to be mum and dad now'. But no it doesn't work that way. You can do the caring normally associated with one of the parents but you aren't that other parent. I am their mother. I am not their father, and the fact I was the only parent didn't change that.

SideWonder · 30/06/2023 08:51

Men aren’t women.

Clymene · 30/06/2023 09:43

Carol Decker (of T'Pau fame) GrinGrinGrinGrin

To think men can NEVER be mothers
newrubylane · 30/06/2023 10:28

TheKeatingFive · 30/06/2023 04:15

A breast pump? WTAF is he planning to do with that? 🙄

Maybe it's the dad's?

TheKeatingFive · 30/06/2023 10:39

Maybe it's the dad's?

Ah, 2023. What a time to be alive. 🤯

TheOriginalEmu · 30/06/2023 14:19

Zanatdy · 29/06/2023 16:22

I do think mothers have an intuition and a desire to put their child above all else more so than fathers. In my experiences anyway. I don’t doubt my ex loves my kids as equally as I love them, but he had made many choices over the years which puts his own desires and wants over that of his children, whereas even at 18 & 15 I still put their well-being first. Men can be good dads, but mothers they are not

There are plenty of fathers who put gbeir kids first, and plenty of mothers who do not. It’s not an inate thing to be a ‘good’ parent if you are female, it’s a socialised thing.

lieselotte · 30/06/2023 14:42

Bromptotoo · 29/06/2023 17:24

Let's start with definitions.

Why not just accept the person in that extract is a woman?

Because he's not. He's a man who thinks because he wants to do "womanly" things, he's a woman. Instead of being a TRA, he needs to fight gender/sex stereotypes. Why does he need to be woman to do traditionally feminine things.

And I assume he's the baby's dad. Or is the baby adopted?

Also, he's not a poor (as in income) parent of either sex, he's a well paid professional.

TaraRhu · 30/06/2023 14:53

I don't think you are being fair tbh. This is a trans woman and should be known as a mother. Just respectful.

SmartHome · 30/06/2023 14:54

Nope.

Just disrespectful to women and girls.

SamW98 · 30/06/2023 14:56

TaraRhu · 30/06/2023 14:53

I don't think you are being fair tbh. This is a trans woman and should be known as a mother. Just respectful.

Because there was a real lack of actual mothers struggling to pay their bills they could have used instead……ok then

StephanieSuperpowers · 30/06/2023 15:00

TaraRhu · 30/06/2023 14:53

I don't think you are being fair tbh. This is a trans woman and should be known as a mother. Just respectful.

What about being respectful to the children who are now expected to change from having had a Dad to having no Dad and two Mums to indulge a grown man's fetish?

MrsOvertonsWindow · 30/06/2023 15:14

TaraRhu · 30/06/2023 14:53

I don't think you are being fair tbh. This is a trans woman and should be known as a mother. Just respectful.

No. Men don't become women because they claim they are. Nobody can change sex. He's a transwoman.
Men aren't mothers. The word mother is taken - as is the word woman. By women.

FuckOffTom · 30/06/2023 15:36

LittleMG · 29/06/2023 14:13

I know I’m going to be really flamed and I don’t think this in a nasty way at all… but I honestly feel that when I had my child I became a mother in lots of ways, I mean like I gained this kind of second sight/intuition to my children I never had with anyone else. My husband is an amazing dad and we parent 50/50 but he does not have my intuition when it comes to my babies. Men dont get it imo

I agree

TaraRhu · 30/06/2023 15:42

@MrsOvertonsWindow I don't think they have become a woman. I think they are a trans woman which is different. But she deserves to be addressed by the right pronouns. You have no idea what her situation is. What if she adopted children without a home? She deserves to bring her kids up in a way that feels right. Yes, she clearly won't have birthed the children but on every other way is their mother.

SideWonder · 30/06/2023 15:43

This is a trans woman and should be known as a mother. Just respectful.

Not respectful to the actual woman and actual mother. And to the 51% of the population who are real women.

Helleofabore · 30/06/2023 15:52

The word 'mother' means something, it has a purpose and that purpose is sex based. This has been upheld by court.

A male should not be gaslighting their children to declare themselves a 'mother' when they are not female. This is cruel to children. The term is not about the male in this instance, it is about the child and the child's needs. How anyone can support this degree of indoctrination into ideological thinking for a child is rather remarkable.

That male could have chosen any neutral or male term for parent. Instead they have chosen not to do that and to lie to their child/children. This is not respectful at all.

Clymene · 30/06/2023 15:54

TaraRhu · 30/06/2023 15:42

@MrsOvertonsWindow I don't think they have become a woman. I think they are a trans woman which is different. But she deserves to be addressed by the right pronouns. You have no idea what her situation is. What if she adopted children without a home? She deserves to bring her kids up in a way that feels right. Yes, she clearly won't have birthed the children but on every other way is their mother.

But that isn't what happened. Mika's wife/partner gave birth to a baby daughter in 2019

TheKeatingFive · 30/06/2023 15:57

But she deserves to be addressed by the right pronouns

But this makes no sense. The 'right' pronouns are the sex based ones that everyone recognises him as. Why does he get to override the reality of everyone else's eyes and ears?

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