To not be able to stop thinking about the Titan tragedy?

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I cannot get those poor men out of my mind. It seems to have quietened down in the news now, but every so often I catch myself thinking of them and their poor families who are now having to adjust to life without them.

It is so, so sad.

Thousands upon thousands of people have had ‘real life contact’ with Titanic survivors. You are not unique

If you get to know them better you'll learn that the vast majority of them aren't escaping any of the things you described.

Yup

Yes dear.

Jesus Christ!! Really? REALLY?? how absolutely predictable!

This 👆

The guy built something essentially in his shed (albeit a well equipped shed), ignored all safety advice, all known safety protocols, and all known build protocols. On a previous excursion, the motor had been put on backwards and yet he just carried on with a live software update. The window was only certified to 1300m and yet he thought it would be OK to go to 3800m.

I'm all for innovation, and some of his theories may well have merit, but only when properly engineered and tested.

I imagine that while he was convincing, the other passengers didn't need much persuasion.

It's very sad, but I'm afraid it was a certainty that it would happen eventually. At least it would have been quick.

@saraclara FS man!!

You knew them all did you? I hope you’re praying for them in that case.

You are really overreacting here. Tragedies occur in the world day and daily. This was an avoidable one, which many of them aren't. Let it go.

End of of my involvement . I told mums net about my testimony .Facts that I have given for DECADES to the authorities and been accepted and proven.

Suddenly I am canceled because it doesnt agree with "their truths"

God help us

Only a very small number are escaping war and persecution. Most are economic migrants. Otherwise they wouldn’t have a ‘destination’ in mind. They’d stop at the first safe country. As has been said a million times……

I agree that the thought of them being potentially stuck underwater for days, with oxygen running out, was terrifying and would have been a horrible way to go. That did cause the story to play on my mind more than it otherwise might have.

This story, where a guy survived in an air pocket in a sunken ship for more than 3 days similarly
gives me the heebies - https://www.huffpost.com/entry/cook-survived-sunken-ship-three-days_n_4391872/amp

If we’d known early on that it was a catastrophic failure, and a quick and relatively painless death, I doubt I’d have given it a second thought.

You sound weird

Is this thread now a sadder-death-at-sea off?

Are you well? Who has ‘canceled’ you?

Just because it’s been said ‘a million times’ doesn’t make it true.

And it isn’t true.

Two-thirds of those who crossed the channel to reach the UK in 2022 are refugees who meet the criteria for asylum.

https://www.refugeecouncil.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/Refugee-Council-Channel-Crossings-briefing-March-2023.pdf

Most people seem to think that their very quick death was better than a drawn out death.

Lack of oxygen, hypothermia and confusion sounds horrific. However, I personally would rather have the opportunity to face my own death, to see it coming, to reflect, make peace, at least in my own mind be prepared, to accept it. No bloody way is it fair to be denied this.

I find the idea that within less than a second a person, and a body can cease to exist.

But I have found the story morbidly fascinating.

It has taken up far too much space in my mind, and I do care far more about the fate of others than a few rich men.

I find the idea that within less than a second a person, and a body can cease to exist quite disturbing.

I think OP is getting a very hard time here, for expressing pretty normal emotions. I've been feeling similarly, I'm not grieving obviously, but this last few days has unsettled me a little. There's a couple of reasons (IMO) why this particular tragedy (out of the many that happen daily) has played on my mind, firstly because I've always been a bit of a Titanic enthusiast. The tale of man's hubris, tragedy, human error and sheer bad luck, together with the bravery and heroism, has always been interesting/horrifying to me. So obviously I was going to be interested in this story as it unfolded. But unlike the many nameless and faceless people who tragically died in another maritime disaster recently, we knew these people's names, their faces were in the papers, this naturally makes it easier to connect emotionally with these people, to empathize with them when we thought they might be stuck at the bottom waiting to die, hoping that they could be saved. Sadly they weren't saved, they died before we even knew they existed in most cases, but we didn't know that at the time. With a lot of other tragedies by the time we hear of them it's too late to help or hope or pray, for a positive outcome as the outcome is already known.

All unnecessary deaths are tragic.

Why??

You have just started another thread with the same arguments that have already been posted in many other threads

Give it a rest with the whataboutery.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-66015851

Was just about to post that the mother of the 19 year old was on BBC news tonight to unprove the myth that he was “terrified to go but only did as it was Father’s Day” his aunt who hasn’t been in touch with the family in ages has obviously been talking bollocks as it was originally her ticket and he wanted to go so much, she let him have it.

Eh?

OP, I think you're getting a hard time here. I think certain tragedies can just strike a chord with some people. All the press coverage - names, faces and stories of the victims etc - personalises the event, gives it an immediacy and draws people in. I felt a similar way about one particular event which happened during the Troubles and it still haunts me to this day. It doesn't mean I don't care about all the other deaths and tragic events.