To not be able to stop thinking about the Titan tragedy?

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I cannot get those poor men out of my mind. It seems to have quietened down in the news now, but every so often I catch myself thinking of them and their poor families who are now having to adjust to life without them.

It is so, so sad.

I really don't think the OP should be having such a hard time on here though, for feeling upset about the Titan sub. People saying 'oh don't you care about the people DYING crossing dangerous waters to escape war?'

As somebody said upthread, you can still care a lot about people dying, trying to reach a better life on a dinghy, or being trapped in the back of a truck starving to death, or freezing to death, or dying of a lack of oxygen - and still feel upset by the people dying on the Titan sub. The 2 are not mutually exclusive.

What I think though is it's just really bizarre to not be able to stop thinking about it ... About these rich privileged men and their little jolly to the bottom of the ocean. Yes, it's sad that they died, of course, but multiple thousands of people dying trying to get to a safer better life is far worse. It really is. Of course it's OK to feel sad about the deaths of these 5 men. But not being able to stop thinking about it is a bit odd frankly. And as a pp said, quite unhealthy...

The OP does not deserve the bashing she is getting though.

I wonder how much they knew before the implosion that something was going wrong. It's the only thing that bothers me about the whole thing. Especially for the kid. Otherwise, I'm over it. The families will no doubt sue OceanGate.

I thought about it a lot when we thought they might be at the bottom of the ocean slowly suffocating to death (especially the 19 year old) but that disappeared when I realised they would have died very quickly and without suffering. Moved on to 'meh, oh well'.

I understand it’s likely they wouldn’t have realised a thing, as the implosion would have happened in milliseconds.

FIVE people a day die on the roads in the UK.

I actually think a lot of the lingering feeling about this is that for a good couple of days we were all convinced that they were trapped underwater, banging on the walls, losing oxygen and realising they were going to die in nightmarish conditions. That isn’t what happened and had we heard it over the course of one day that the vessel had imploded and those inside had died I think there would have still been a curiosity and of course sadness for the men and their families but not to the degree that everyone felt when they thought it was a different situation playing out.

Not really. It had one porthole the size of a washing machine window. Pitch black down even at the depth they were. And they never made it anywhere near the wreck.

OOH just a thought OP, can we dig up your familyy graves ? Time team would be interested......

No they wouldn't.

Im still thinking about it too. I watched a video today from someone who went on it a few weeks before. It’s just mad that so many people had been on it and survived and that time it went so catastrophically wrong. Literally just your luck it seems 😔 Sad regardless of how much money you have or the reason you’re down there and of course the migrant crossings are tragic too (as are so many other things in life)

YEH OP

I feel sorry for their families.

No sympathy for the grown men who took the risk for kicks. Do feel sorry for the waste of the loss of the 19 year olds amazing life he could have had, he would not have had the maturity and life experience to make that decision and probably heavily influenced and the risks minimised by his reckless dad.

Totally agree. The people who identify as Good/Kind/Virtuous do seem to have this need to castigate others in order to get that buzz of righteousness.

A rescue effort ALWAYS engages people. It's natural. A more apt comparison than the migrant boat, despite not being at sea, would be the Turkey/Syria earthquakes a few months back. Many people affected, many poor and not white. Huge news coverage, international rescue effort, massive aid drive, loads of people everywhere invested and donating to help. Why? Because people were trapped and running out of time. Not billionaires, ordinary people.

So any tosser pouncing on people for having a normal human reaction to this case can stick their tedious virtue-signalling up their jacksie, frankly,

@eldersis Blimey, calm down.

Hmmm, yeah some good points there.....

This TITANIC accident was down to the companies pure greed.

The original was remarkably similar: caused by arrogance, hubris and a disregard for basic safety protocols.

Yes no problem. I am a person who has had real life contact with a titanic survivor, Probably one of the last.

How is that hysterical ?

Its FACTUAL !

Based on how wealthy his family was, he'd have to have an INHUMAN amount of sense to outweigh the money.

That's not a dig, it's just a lot of money.

I agree. Pertinent, and, as someone else said, not unreasonable.

I think the important thing here was a "top secret " sub heard an implosion. Top secret means that they would not disclose. IF they had heard "sounds of life" I am sure they would have disclosed it.

I feel a bit sorry for the 19 year old (and now his Mum), I have a 19 year old, he doesn't always make the best decisions and trusts us a lot.

I am a scuba diver with an understanding of pressure. Apparently a better understanding than these bozos.

You don't fuck around with the ocean. If you do, she takes you. That's what happened here. They didn't need to be there.

It is OK to push the boundaries, adventure is good. But adventure is dangerous, and these things happen.

Just out of interest, I wonder how many MN threads there were about the Turkish earthquakes.

The lack of class consciousness on this thread really shows why we are in such a fuck shit position as a country.

I'm embarrassed anyone is this unaware.

I have been fascinated with the titanic all my life.

Why are you allowed to be fascinated by Titanic but OP isn’t allowed to be fascinated by Titan?