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Wanting love and a relationship, when you don’t want sex. is it possible?

209 replies

IsThereAnEchoInHere · 25/06/2023 17:17

I think it’s a no. At least going from my experience.
I’m a romantic fool and always wanted a life partner, I’ve been single all my life, but never learn to be very good at it.
Although I’m not sure loneliness is something you can ever get used to.
Well anyway, learned young and pretty fast tgat everyone just wanted sex.
Lost my hope in live even being real for awhile, and also thought that let them get the sex out of their system - I can wait and then focus on things that actually matter.
Well, older I and we all got, but they still demand sex.
I’m probably on my last moments of trying to find someone and it’s just not looking good.
Is it possible to find a partner if you can’t have sex?
It just seems so unfair.

OP posts:
TheOriginalEmu · 02/07/2023 00:34

JodyMitchell · 01/07/2023 22:53

I find many of the comments on this thread extraordinary.

I enjoy sex and it is an essential part of a relationship for me. But, it’s not compulsory for everyone. I have always been aware that some people are asexual and that has always been the case, since the beginning of time. It’s not a psychological problem, not the result of trauma or a restricted upbringing. I am sure that in fact many of us may know someone among our friends and family who is asexual. In the past this might have been what we
used to call a maiden aunt or confirmed batchelor. Some may have become nuns or priests in the past. Even though they might have longed for a (sexless) partner.

What the OP is looking for is not common, but it is normal ie. a certain (small) proportion of the population are naturally inclined that way.

It’s unusual and difficult to be asexual but it’s not a weird disability. I don’t understand why anybody feels the need to interrogate anybody with this preference.

I wish the OP luck in finding the relationship she is looking for.

Well said!

Capitalismwantsyou · 02/07/2023 00:43

TheOriginalEmu · 02/07/2023 00:03

Nonsense. People know what they need and want.

Not everyone does. Not saying there's anything wrong with OP's stance, but OP is here asking for suggestions so we're all brainstorming... and we don't know OP at all

We're also on the Internet, which is never a replacement for face to face conversations. Only a side show

To me it sounds like OP could start with a "best friend"... because what's the difference between the love of your life and your best friend?

Boomboxinmyattic · 02/07/2023 08:58

TheOriginalEmu · 02/07/2023 00:33

Well would you feel like you were being tortured if you were having to sleep with a person you don’t want to have sex with every day forever?

That particular scenario was never on the cards, though. It's like asking would I feel tortured by being eaten by eels; yes, I would. No one has suggested OP is likely to be forced into a lifelong marriage to a sex maniac.

YouJustDoYou · 02/07/2023 09:12

OP, I've never had a libido, never had "urges". I don't desire men or women. Bodyparts don't turn me on. I find people just don't understand not wanting/needing sex - they always seem to think something is wrong with you, or that you "just haven't met the right man/woman yet, or say might you be gay etc, or think you must've been thrgouh some kind of sexual trauma.

Sometimes, we simply don't need it or desire it or see humans in that way. As others have said you can look at the asexual dating websites as there are people who are looking for a purely romantic/no sex relationship, though you'll find the men are few and far between who don't want a sexual relationship either. But it's not impossible. Good luck in your search x

TheOriginalEmu · 02/07/2023 09:30

Capitalismwantsyou · 02/07/2023 00:43

Not everyone does. Not saying there's anything wrong with OP's stance, but OP is here asking for suggestions so we're all brainstorming... and we don't know OP at all

We're also on the Internet, which is never a replacement for face to face conversations. Only a side show

To me it sounds like OP could start with a "best friend"... because what's the difference between the love of your life and your best friend?

Many, many things. Intimacy and shared life and closeness. To suggest the only difference between a best friend and a sexual partner is sex is daft.

TheOriginalEmu · 02/07/2023 09:36

Boomboxinmyattic · 02/07/2023 08:58

That particular scenario was never on the cards, though. It's like asking would I feel tortured by being eaten by eels; yes, I would. No one has suggested OP is likely to be forced into a lifelong marriage to a sex maniac.

People asked why OP knows she doesn’t want sex. She knows she doesn’t because that is what a life time of a ‘normal’ sexual relationship feels like to an asexual person. I’ve had sexual relationships because I thought there was something wrong with me, and I just needed to get over it. And I wanted children. But that’s exactly what having a perfectly normal amount of sex felt like for me. Torture, daily at times. Weekly at best. And I couldn’t sustain it. and I am still traumatised by it over 15 years later. People are suggesting that OP try a sexual relationship. That’s an incredibly damaging thing to do.

sigfey · 02/07/2023 10:21

JodyMitchell · 01/07/2023 22:53

I find many of the comments on this thread extraordinary.

I enjoy sex and it is an essential part of a relationship for me. But, it’s not compulsory for everyone. I have always been aware that some people are asexual and that has always been the case, since the beginning of time. It’s not a psychological problem, not the result of trauma or a restricted upbringing. I am sure that in fact many of us may know someone among our friends and family who is asexual. In the past this might have been what we
used to call a maiden aunt or confirmed batchelor. Some may have become nuns or priests in the past. Even though they might have longed for a (sexless) partner.

What the OP is looking for is not common, but it is normal ie. a certain (small) proportion of the population are naturally inclined that way.

It’s unusual and difficult to be asexual but it’s not a weird disability. I don’t understand why anybody feels the need to interrogate anybody with this preference.

I wish the OP luck in finding the relationship she is looking for.

This.

It's exactly the same as if, ten years ago, OP had posted she only wanted to have sex with women.

The replies would be ridiculous to that, and are to anyone saying they are asexual too.

Good luck OP - another one suggesting you get on the dating apps, set your orientation to asexual and see what happens. I think you may need to be open to someone living further away, but it sounds like you're very motivated.

I have seen profiles of asexual men (not many, but they do exist) on the apps I use :)

Ladybug14 · 02/07/2023 10:31

slashlover · 28/06/2023 08:25

Reddit isn't exactly the best place on the internet and certainly doesn't represent everyone. Can I suggest you try AVEN? https://www.asexuality.org/ There are certainly people on there who don't want sex and the forums are quite good.

I'd also suggest looking into the split attraction model as it seems to me that you're asexual but heteroromantic? (I'm aromantic asexual.)

I agree re Reddit. How strange to assume that asexual = people who talk about sex from reading Reddit 🤣

Join as many asexual dating sites as you can find (avoid reading Reddit)

It's unlikely you'll find your life partner in the place you now live, but reaching out to your tribe throigh those dating sites will , I'm sure, mean that you'll click with someone

Ladybug14 · 02/07/2023 10:36

www.asexualcupid.com/heteroromantic-asexual.html

AndIKnewYouMeantIt · 02/07/2023 11:42

sigfey · 02/07/2023 10:21

This.

It's exactly the same as if, ten years ago, OP had posted she only wanted to have sex with women.

The replies would be ridiculous to that, and are to anyone saying they are asexual too.

Good luck OP - another one suggesting you get on the dating apps, set your orientation to asexual and see what happens. I think you may need to be open to someone living further away, but it sounds like you're very motivated.

I have seen profiles of asexual men (not many, but they do exist) on the apps I use :)

Were we all raging homophobes in Ye Olden Days of 2013? 😁

slashlover · 02/07/2023 13:17

Capitalismwantsyou · 02/07/2023 00:00

Isn't that why teenagers experiment? To find out? Like trying new food.. you don't know for sure until you've tried it

Do you feel like that about all aspects of sex? Would you try BDSM? Anal? Kink? Watersports? Threesomes? Why ever not? You might love them, you don't know for sure until you've tried them!

slashlover · 02/07/2023 13:20

Capitalismwantsyou · 02/07/2023 00:43

Not everyone does. Not saying there's anything wrong with OP's stance, but OP is here asking for suggestions so we're all brainstorming... and we don't know OP at all

We're also on the Internet, which is never a replacement for face to face conversations. Only a side show

To me it sounds like OP could start with a "best friend"... because what's the difference between the love of your life and your best friend?

Are you saying the the only difference in your feelings between your best friend and your partner is that you have sex with your partner?

slashlover · 02/07/2023 13:26

slashlover · 02/07/2023 13:17

Do you feel like that about all aspects of sex? Would you try BDSM? Anal? Kink? Watersports? Threesomes? Why ever not? You might love them, you don't know for sure until you've tried them!

Also, the message that even if you know you don't want to do something sexual, you should do it anyway because you might actually like it, is incredibly dangerous and damaging.

YouJustDoYou · 02/07/2023 14:39

slashlover · 02/07/2023 13:26

Also, the message that even if you know you don't want to do something sexual, you should do it anyway because you might actually like it, is incredibly dangerous and damaging.

Exactly. What utterly horrifically vile advice.

IsThereAnEchoInHere · 02/07/2023 15:58

yipeeyiyay · 01/07/2023 23:17

What do you class as loving and romantic OP?

To me it’s the feeling (I know it and have expirienced it) that I have. I just know how I want to get to know them, more deeper. To share and build a life together. Care and value about them and vice versa.
Again just me personally, don’t associate touching to love or caring.Totally fine that others see that as caring/loving, sex included, my brain just doesn’t.

What you call romantic I think most would call caring or loving but romance is something else I think. Romance tends to be associated with physical love. Caring can include valuing someone strongly, being concerned for their well being, enjoying their company etc but I wouldn't say what you feel and want is what most people would label romantic. A romantic dinner for example would include a lovely atmosphere and environment, maybe nice lighting and music, holding hands, gazing into each others eyes, kissing, holding each other and lots of nuzzling and breathing in each others scent. It would often end in physical intimacy but even if it didn't there would be a significant amount of contact. What does a romantic evening out look like for you?

I think that at this point no matter what I’ll say it will be tear it down and say ”not like that, no one else thinks/feels like that”!

But romantic evening that jumped into my mind straight away was walk in nature, fall time, all the colours. Both are so comfortable with each other don’t even have to say anything. Just their presence is wonderful, safe, filled with love. Wanting to just be there.

Then end up on a beach, start a little camp fire, night starts to fall, looking at the stars, closeness, point out some stars and then do that funny gentle shoulder to shoulder push and just smile at each other, happy to be there, no rush.

Ah, that would be amazing!
I want that so much!

OP posts:
IsThereAnEchoInHere · 02/07/2023 16:00

TheOriginalEmu · 01/07/2023 23:49

It’s very possible @IsThereAnEchoInHere, but mumsnet isn’t the place you’re going to find people open to even think about this kind of relationship. People here are generally very traditional and don’t believe that polyamory or asexual relationships can work. They can and do. There are many more ace people out there than anyone who isn’t ok the community knows because the judgement about it is insane. So lots never publically say it.

Thank you! ☺️

OP posts:
LolaSmiles · 02/07/2023 16:05

But romantic evening that jumped into my mind straight away was walk in nature, fall time, all the colours. Both are so comfortable with each other don’t even have to say anything. Just their presence is wonderful, safe, filled with love. Wanting to just be there.
Then end up on a beach, start a little camp fire, night starts to fall, looking at the stars, closeness, point out some stars and then do that funny gentle shoulder to shoulder push and just smile at each other, happy to be there, no rush.

Ah, that would be amazing!
That sounds like an enjoyable evening and there'll be someone out there who wants that too, just from a smaller pool of people.
You deserve someone who wants that and values that time for what it is, not having to make compromises or turn a blind eye to scratch someone else's sexual itch.

IsThereAnEchoInHere · 02/07/2023 16:19

steff13 · 02/07/2023 00:16

What happened in your previous romantic relationships?

They never made it into relationship stage.

Crushes, from both side sometimes (actually one man professed his love, but pretty much ran and left a man size hole in the door once I told him that sex wasnmt my thing 😅)

Series of dates, multiple once - but same ending.

One did say there were fine, and were, but not for long. Apparently I was suppose to change my mind and had the nerve not to. So that was it. Didn’t last long, too embarrassed to say how short it lasted.

OP posts:
JupiterBiscuit · 02/07/2023 17:06

Without wanting to sound generalising, I think that some people would see your asexuality as a challenge. What do you think @IsThereAnEchoInHere

IsThereAnEchoInHere · 02/07/2023 21:01

@JupiterBiscuit
I’m sure some would.

I didn’t know about asexuality for a long time, and even once I learned about it wasn’t comfortable to call myself that (as I said ages ago, so many asexuals said they do have and like sex, so didn’t think it meant / fit me).
But, when I’ve tried dating, and was honest that I didn’t want it, few didn’t believe, I was told I haven’t been with ’right one’ followed by that horrible smirk thing, ’dated’ one for little while - who then started to get angry and called me names and became really pushy.
And got the whole ’but it’s me’ and ’I thought you weren’t serious/would change your mind / be normal.

OP posts:
JupiterBiscuit · 02/07/2023 21:33

When was your last date if you don't mind me asking.

IsThereAnEchoInHere · 03/07/2023 05:09

@JupiterBiscuit
Little over three years ago.
I had to put dating an a hault, because I couldn’t take it anymore.

OP posts:
JupiterBiscuit · 03/07/2023 07:35

Do you feel ready to try again? Dating can be a lottery at the best of times. You come across as a confident person who knows what they want and doesn't give up until they have achieved what ever it is they were trying to.

Parisj · 03/07/2023 08:02

I like that you know yourself and are clear about what you don't want. Realistically you are going to have a very small dating pool, so finding someone who wants the same and that you fall for enough is pretty unlikely (sorry). I think I would skip dating sites and join hobby groups or meet up groups (if you don't mind groups). When people ask you about dating or for dates I'd say 'I'm open to friendships, I'd love to meet up'. I think your description of the relationship you want sounds lovely, but idealised (not many days irl are like that) but I presume you can also find joy in the mundane parts of companionship such as pairing each others socks or putting your feet up.

yipeeyiyay · 03/07/2023 15:05

Reading your 'ideal romantic date' I am left wondering what happens after the walk and the sitting by the fire and the shoulder nudging and little smiles. Do you just go home? No kisses, no hugs? I think this is where it will be hard to find a companion. It is just not very romantic for most people. It's....nice. But not romantic. You are very platonic and I think the difference between what you consider a friend and a romantic partner are very small. Good luck. I hope you find your ever after but I do think it will be a challenge

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