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To be asked where are you from

264 replies

Tweetypie1st · 25/06/2023 01:59

For background, DH & I live in UK but originally came from South Asia several years ago. This is our home now.
So we are getting quotes for a garage conversion and we had someone come over to have a look. It was an older husband & wife team and they are telling us all sorts of stories(my understanding was trying to build a rapport) and then the guy asks where are we from. And I could tell my DH getting annoyed, so I just replied where I came from. And then he tells us more stories. And then he asks my husband what does he do? And my DH said we live here and then laughed so it doesn't get awkward. After they were gone, he was fuming saying how racist of him to ask us where are we from; we live & work here! Would it be okay if I asked him the same question? What if we were born here; he thinks it's okay to ask this question just because we have a different skin colour.

Would you ask this question to anyone, especially a stranger? Would you be offended if someone asked you that? How would you reply to the question?

OP posts:
Beneficialchampion2 · 25/06/2023 12:40

In woke culture it is a micro aggression, not racist in my opinion.

You could have just replied with where are are living currently...

You can't ask bugger all of anyone nowadays without them feeling an entitled sense of offense.

Zarah123 · 25/06/2023 12:41

onefinemess · 25/06/2023 12:01

Why do you think I'm white?

Racist much?

🙄

Where did I say you were white?

Zarah123 · 25/06/2023 12:43

JustGotToKeepOnKeepingOn · 25/06/2023 12:32

@Mamaneedsadrink I'm first generation English and white. My name makes it obvious I'm not of English heritage. I get asked where I'm from... it really doesn't bother me. I happily talk about where my parents and grandparents were born.

It's very common in the UK to be asked where you're from and what you do as as way to make conversation.

The recent issue with an elderly lady in the royal household asking a black lady where she came from opened up a discussion I wasn't aware we needed to have. The social storm that exchange created has made me nervous about asking people where they're from, which I think is a shame as I enjoy learning about other people's culture.

Just the fact that you are a first generation immigrant but can call yourself ‘English’ because you’re white shows your privilege. BAME immigrants do not have this privilege.

Backstreets · 25/06/2023 12:44

Well I’m mixed so there’s always the undertone of “where are you REALLY from” which does feel a bit shit but I think most who ask are just genuinely curious.

Zarah123 · 25/06/2023 12:45

DustySoil · 25/06/2023 12:29

This is why life can be tricky. Like many people I go through life trying not to offend people and by trying to be a nice person. I try and keep abreast of what is and isn't offensive. Having lived abroad I've had to be careful to change my language in different countries.

I know not to ask people where they are from so I don't. It's no biggie.

However, as a white personal I have to admit to not understanding (in my head) why showing an interest in someone's background is racist. I'd have thought people would be proud and pleased to talk about their backgrounds. I can see that it is rude to push or continue a line of questioning where someone has indicated that they don't wish to. Anyone with half a brain cell can see "No, where are you really from" is not ok obviously.

I know what to do and I'll do it happily but I do think it's a shame. It seems to be making it a taboo subject. One persons 'othering' seems to be another's 'celebrating our differences'

Did you read my post explaining why it’s not well received?

Why say you don’t understand when you haven’t read or acknowledged people explaining why?

Justroundthecorner · 25/06/2023 12:46

@Zarah123 I think some people do think their desire to know (why??) means that the other persons discomfort does not matter.

AngryGreasedSantaCatcus · 25/06/2023 12:48

DustySoil · 25/06/2023 12:29

This is why life can be tricky. Like many people I go through life trying not to offend people and by trying to be a nice person. I try and keep abreast of what is and isn't offensive. Having lived abroad I've had to be careful to change my language in different countries.

I know not to ask people where they are from so I don't. It's no biggie.

However, as a white personal I have to admit to not understanding (in my head) why showing an interest in someone's background is racist. I'd have thought people would be proud and pleased to talk about their backgrounds. I can see that it is rude to push or continue a line of questioning where someone has indicated that they don't wish to. Anyone with half a brain cell can see "No, where are you really from" is not ok obviously.

I know what to do and I'll do it happily but I do think it's a shame. It seems to be making it a taboo subject. One persons 'othering' seems to be another's 'celebrating our differences'

If someone is happy and proud of their heritage and willing to share then it honestly comes up in conversation anyways which is actually a lot more natural.

Zarah123 · 25/06/2023 12:48

Justroundthecorner · 25/06/2023 12:46

@Zarah123 I think some people do think their desire to know (why??) means that the other persons discomfort does not matter.

Totally agree.

Whattodo112222 · 25/06/2023 12:55

I'm Mauritian and get asked where I'm from every single day pretty much... i also get the presumption that I'm Indian or Sri Lankan.. I'm not at all offended.

DifficultBloodyWoman · 25/06/2023 12:57

I teach a class at the multicultural Centre which is specifically targeted at refugees and migrants. That is actually a requirement of the programme.

At the start of every course, we go around and introduce ourselves - what is your name, where are you from and how long have you lived here.

Nobody has ever been offended and many interesting conversations have been started between participants.

Having been both the majority skin colour and minority skin colour, I have never been offended when people ask me where I am from. I was once offended after an American woman started telling me how shit her stay in that country was back in the seventies. But it wasn’t the question that was offensive, just her response.

BansheeofInisherin · 25/06/2023 12:58

I'd have thought people would be proud and pleased to talk about their backgrounds.

The reason why some of us are sometimes not proud or pleased to talk about our backgrounds ( and I don't mean in the OP's example) is because those backgrounds have been traditionally vilified and continue to be vilified- including by those who come from those very backgrounds like Sunak and company-to gain favour with Tory voters. Suella Braverman has got up there and said multiculturalism does not work, and been applauded. What she meant was: brown and black people do not assimilate. Perhaps you can see why people just want to blend in, in some cases.

OneTC · 25/06/2023 12:59

Zarah123 · 25/06/2023 12:43

Just the fact that you are a first generation immigrant but can call yourself ‘English’ because you’re white shows your privilege. BAME immigrants do not have this privilege.

My other half describes herself as English or British.

I can be easily mistaken for English but I'm not and I'd feel weird, as an immigrant, to be describing myself as such

AhNowTed · 25/06/2023 13:03

In Ireland they have your life history while waiting for a bus!

It's just conversation.

I speak with an accent and am asked all the time.

Doesn't bother me one bit.

Rummikub · 25/06/2023 13:03

I’m American and white. When I’m asked, it’s not the same as people who are asked because of the colour of their skin. If you don’t understand that, you should really try to.

this.

im not white and I’ll answer Liverpool. But then get a quizzical look. So I understand your dh pov.

it can be a question asked out of racism - the assumption being you’re not British.

Nowadays I’ll base my response on the context and intent.

Zarah123 · 25/06/2023 13:04

Yet another thread where white voices try to drown out BAME voices with ‘doesn’t bother me’.

Plus ça change…

JamSandle · 25/06/2023 13:05

Mixed race here. Doesn't bother me.

Karmakamelion · 25/06/2023 13:07

@Tweetypie1st I'm Indian but born and raised in the UK and I don't get at all offered by this question. Infact I am more likely to be offended by people calling me Asian as that is a huge area and I don't feel that I identify at all with some people of countries within Asia

Lampzade · 25/06/2023 13:08

ListeningToTheDog · 25/06/2023 03:31

I’m American and white. When I’m asked, it’s not the same as people who are asked because of the colour of their skin. If you don’t understand that, you should really try to.

This

LakeTiticaca · 25/06/2023 13:10

Nigerian friend. Loves talking about home and family and their way of life. She loves being asked about her culture and friends always enjoy her stories. So that is one person who doesn't think it's racist to ask.
Can't people be interested in other cultures without being labelled racist?

Ingrowncrotchhair · 25/06/2023 13:12

ListeningToTheDog · 25/06/2023 03:31

I’m American and white. When I’m asked, it’s not the same as people who are asked because of the colour of their skin. If you don’t understand that, you should really try to.

lots of white people here unable to see the difference

Okshacky · 25/06/2023 13:14

LakeTiticaca · 25/06/2023 13:10

Nigerian friend. Loves talking about home and family and their way of life. She loves being asked about her culture and friends always enjoy her stories. So that is one person who doesn't think it's racist to ask.
Can't people be interested in other cultures without being labelled racist?

Yes they can, but they aren’t always. It sounds like you haven’t experienced the grinding day to day racism that many put up with in the UK.

Rummikub · 25/06/2023 13:15

@LakeTiticaca

i like talking about my heritage too. But I have experienced enough realism to know the difference and intent of the where are you from question.

With people I know happy to talk about it. But I’ll generally bring it up to invite that conversation.

if it’s the first/ second question then I wouldn’t be happy.

Rummikub · 25/06/2023 13:17

“Enough racism”
not realism . Though that still applies as part of my reality of obviously being not white.

Zarah123 · 25/06/2023 13:22

Rummikub · 25/06/2023 13:15

@LakeTiticaca

i like talking about my heritage too. But I have experienced enough realism to know the difference and intent of the where are you from question.

With people I know happy to talk about it. But I’ll generally bring it up to invite that conversation.

if it’s the first/ second question then I wouldn’t be happy.

Well said.

AngryGreasedSantaCatcus · 25/06/2023 13:22

Also it seems that people are unable to grasp the difference between random strangers/people asking (including contractors) and friends or people you are friendly with asking.