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WTAF? (SEXUAL ASSUALT/RAPE)

109 replies

BittenontheBum · 24/06/2023 07:36

Not sure if there's already a thread about this, I couldn't find one.
I feel like I should be totally horrified that this disgusting excuse for a man found SO MANY other rapists to join in over the years. But sadly I'm not horrified anymore.
I am really fucking angry though.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/france-man-films-wife-rape-b2362206.html?utm_source=taboola&utm_medium=Feed#comments-area
Would it be unreasonable to stay single for the rest of my life based on ALL the shit that men are doing/are capable of?
That poor poor woman 😔

Man accused of filming at least 51 men raping drugged wife over a decade

Husband says ‘none of the men who came to his house gave up going through with sexual acts on his wife given her state’

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/france-man-films-wife-rape-b2362206.html#comments-area

OP posts:
Gettingfleeced · 24/06/2023 07:45

That poor woman

littleripper · 24/06/2023 07:47

There is a whole community of men making and sharing these films. It is horrific.

chemistnightmare · 24/06/2023 07:51

God that's horrific. I can't imagine how the woman can even begin to process it all Sad

IsThereAnEchoInHere · 24/06/2023 08:06

Would it be unreasonable to stay single for the rest of my life based on ALL the shit that men are doing/are capable of?

No.

DamnUserName21 · 24/06/2023 08:08

I have no words really. I sometimes wonder if the death penalty was brought back and applied to rape situations would the world be a safer place for women and children...
The sheer abuse, lack of empathy, lack of morality and the dehumanisation of this woman by her husband and rapists is mind-boggling.

Punf · 24/06/2023 08:08

It's sick bought that this one man would want to do this to his wife, but the fact he found so many other men who were willing to rape an unconscious woman rather than get her help from the hell she was living is why I hate men.

iamnottoofatiamjusttooshort · 24/06/2023 08:10

I read this

Absolutely heart breaking for this poor woman

Shame on this shit husband to allow almost 90 men to rape her , they've identified over 50 of them , I wish they'd castrate the lot of them

jeaux90 · 24/06/2023 08:21

I have no words. I am losing patience with the way the law deals with this absolutely disgraceful epidemic of violence against women and girls.

FOJN · 24/06/2023 08:23

Would it be unreasonable to stay single for the rest of my life based on ALL the shit that men are doing/are capable of?

Of course not but the NAMALT crew will be along shortly to tell you this is rare and all the men they know are absolutely lovely.

Approx 90 men raped an unconscious woman, that sounds like quite a few men are actually like that.

Freefall212 · 24/06/2023 08:24

Punf · 24/06/2023 08:08

It's sick bought that this one man would want to do this to his wife, but the fact he found so many other men who were willing to rape an unconscious woman rather than get her help from the hell she was living is why I hate men.

He didn't really find them. They were an online community of men who like to rape unconscious women and he was part of that community. No idea where that kind of community is hosted and it is disgusting that it exists but this wasn't coming across random men and finding out they were willing to participate. This was a deviant and twisted group of men online (I guess similar to communities of those sharing child abuse material etc) who joined in on this awful act. He was the one willing to offer up his wife, which makes him even more awful as he had the personal connection to the victim.

AnObserverInThisDarkWorld · 24/06/2023 08:24

DamnUserName21 · 24/06/2023 08:08

I have no words really. I sometimes wonder if the death penalty was brought back and applied to rape situations would the world be a safer place for women and children...
The sheer abuse, lack of empathy, lack of morality and the dehumanisation of this woman by her husband and rapists is mind-boggling.

*a safer place for everyone.

This is horrific and that poor woman. But rape isn't something that doesn't happen to men and its harmful to pretend it doesn't.

FOJN · 24/06/2023 08:28

AnObserverInThisDarkWorld · 24/06/2023 08:24

*a safer place for everyone.

This is horrific and that poor woman. But rape isn't something that doesn't happen to men and its harmful to pretend it doesn't.

Fucking hell, when me too becomes men too.

We know men are also raped, I don't think anyone here thinks that isn't traumatising. However most rape survivors ARE women and, in the UK, only men can commit the crime of rape.

pollykitty · 24/06/2023 08:33

It’s horrifying. Beyond the rapes she also has had multiple STDs apparently. The trauma she has endured is impossible to imagine. I hope he has the same thing happen to him in jail. So many men are absolutely disgusting humans. Why.

chemistnightmare · 24/06/2023 08:38

@AnObserverInThisDarkWorld

But rape isn't something that doesn't happen to men and its harmful to pretend it doesn't.

It's bullshit to suggest it does.

Also, why. On a thread about almost 100 men raping the same woman, are you even talking about assault against men.

Read. The. Room.

If you want to talk about how men can be sexually assaulted, perhaps make your own throws because this thread deserves more respect, for the woman who was raped.

jeaux90 · 24/06/2023 08:40

@AnObserverInThisDarkWorld I think you need to check the ONS stats on this. 98% of sexual crimes are committed by men.

OneLittleFinger · 24/06/2023 08:42

What gets me is that despite it all he seems to be arguing the divorce because he loves his 'saint' wife.

Bookworm333 · 24/06/2023 08:42

What I'm most worried about is that these men get let off without a proper jail sentence. The husband is saying he didn't make the other men do it and they could have stopped at any time, and the other men they have managed to track down are claiming they were told it was consensual "role play" and she enjoyed pretending to be unconscious. Makes my blood boil that they could even begin to justify what they have done like that. Angry

cooldarkroom · 24/06/2023 08:44

This is so vile.
Why are these deviant sites allowed to exist?
All of those men should be castrated with two bricks.
Men are globally worse than animals.

RumNotRun · 24/06/2023 08:46

It reminded me of a case in America where a child was kept tied up by her parents who would then invite men to rape her. They'd "pay" men for work by giving them time with the daughter. (I think she ended up becoming a murderer and getting a death sentence years later)

It's terrifying that in both cases there were significant amounts of men who happily joined in. No one thought "hmm, this isn't right. I should report this"

tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz · 24/06/2023 08:50

littleripper · 24/06/2023 07:47

There is a whole community of men making and sharing these films. It is horrific.

And this is why the NAMALT crew really make me cross as that's an awful lot of men who actively did this and then hundreds more who would be very interested in viewing this.

As time goes on o think actually many, many more men than we'd like to think absolutely are like this.

That poor woman. How can you come back from knowing this has been done to you?

AlisonDonut · 24/06/2023 08:52

He was caught trying to film women in a changing room

Otherwise it would still be going on.

Newbutoldfather · 24/06/2023 08:56

It is 51 sickos in a population of 70 million or so.

Unfortunately the internet allows sick perverts to find one another, in a way that never would have been possible before.

However, to never have a relationship with a man because of of .0001% of the populations seems a bit extreme.

KarmaIsMyBF · 24/06/2023 08:57

That's horrific. That poor women, I hope somehow she can move on from this.

It's always interesting when talking about women, someone always chimes in with what about men, they're raped too... yes they are and I bet the majority of men are raped by men!!

I have a young daughter and it's horrific what goes on in the world. The internet has a lot to answer for.

jeaux90 · 24/06/2023 09:00

@Newbutoldfather 98% of sexual assaults are committed by men in the UK and 2 women on average a week are killed by men. In the US a woman or girl is assaulted every 2 minutes. 3 out if 5 women in the UK say they have been sexually assaulted.

Please do one with your minimising.

ThatFraggle · 24/06/2023 09:02

Why did they put the husband's details? Now everyone knows who the wife is.