To think people should be BANNED from MN

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…. If they can’t read the full thread before bloody commenting???

Lightheaded (but also slightly serious lol)

grrr! I know it’s a mistake and at times difficult to read a long thread and all the comments, but why do people not bother properly reading the OPs comments or at least their first post before commenting something they’ve already said?

I’ve noticed it so often recently! The OP could make a post saying they are 30 years old. And there will be a number of comments asking how old they are. Or the OP could say they have a German shepherd. Cue 10 comments asking what breed the dog is. There’s actually a thread I just saw where the OP mentions antihistamines they’ve been taking and they mention the exact name of them. ITS IN THE OP. To which someone comments on the first page saying that it’s not clear if the OP is taking any antihistamines or not? 🤦🏽‍♀️

it’s happened on some of my posts where at least 30% of comments are people asking things that are IN THE OP and another 30% of comments are people telling them to read the OP.

i appreciate that people are only trying to help, but if they can’t be bothered to properly read the OP before commenting then it’s actually more unhelpful not to mention incredibly frustrating to have several comments that are questioning, suggesting or criticising things that are in the OP already

so I suppose my AIBU is, AIBU to get so frustrated by this??? Does anyone else?? 😆

This ^

Its exactly the same as "There are a zillion threads on this already" or "Yawn".
Nobody is forced to comment on all threads so don't open said thread.

Not when it’s multiple posts. Like another poster said, it’s arrogant to not even bother to read the post before passing comments about it.

And then also you get the ones that have a go at the OP when they haven’t bothered to read and check their facts correctly.

I posted a thread once asking for advice and had multiple posters jump on and accuse me of things I had blatantly already covered in my OP. If they had bothered to actually read it first before going on their rant they’d have realised they were completely incorrect

Or making it available on the app.

It currently isn't and sometimes the app doesn't load all pages either. I have been caught out by that before

I do think lots of posters are incredibly rude and attacking on mn. Particularly on one board feminism the should be some better moderation as sometimes posters are vile to each other words are powerful and can tip someone who's vulnerable

YANBU OP, especially now the OP’s posts can be filtered.

Certain forums on MN are more direct than others. Some of the forums are hugely supportive. Don’t post in AIBU for traffic.

@nothingcomestonothing .Honestly? Hard to read and didnt get ?"-ie - tho can be serious issues at times,and learning is always possible it is a form of entertainment"

you said. "I don't think the majority of posters are seeing MN as a form of entertainment." so. which is it????.."I don't claim to speak for MN users as a whole " Just want to clarify. this response /my point isnt if its entertainment................ Arrogant is presuming your unfounded opinion is the correct one...gaslighting is denying you said that.
also.
if you click at the bottom op posts "see all" you can//i often do.. skip the multiple advice altogether really(unless particularly bored/petty today)...they generally respond to the group/valid/outstandingoutrageous so you dont miss out. ....

@tolerable why do you use so many ellipses? It’s very distracting, puts a barrier between what you want to say and conveying that.

was giving you time to catch up. hahahaha.
i suppose i write the way i think. so,there is a lull tween that and my next statement. ive never rreally thought about why. am being arrrogant now because i think you know exactly what i said ,pointing out my literary capabilities deficiency is easier tho.

It would absolutely kill the flow of a thread but I’m surprised more OP’s don’t reply to the clueless with a quote of their OP with the information bolded. I think in that situation I’d be tempted to do it.

I still think the shun badge is a good idea ooooo…a shun badge with a filter option to hide all shunned posters 🤣

Bloody hell that's stretching it a bit far.
OP YANBU.
Some people are just unable to comprehend a simple sentence.

Agree. Even more so when you have many that didn’t even read the first original post properly.

I know I sometimes read over the post again or other posts before I post to be sure.

I wish there was a button where you could just hide or delete such posts and they would minimise into small boxes so they wouldn’t take up as much space.

But op, surely its 'arrogant' to start a thread purely to complain about how others post?

I think pile on is far worse. People repeating what has been said over and over. It shouldn't be able to be posted.

I was one of these despicable people the other day 😳

It gets us all sometimes

I genuinely find the way you are posting hard to decipher. What does 'Just want to clarify. this response /my point isnt if its entertainment..........' mean?

I said 'I don't think the majority of posters are posting as entertainment' because I don't think that they are, I think most posts are asking for opinions, advice, support etc. Me saying that's my opinion on why posters post isn't me 'speaking for MN users as a whole'. I'm not gaslighting you, to say that's what I think, nor am I saying my opinion is the 'correct' one, it's my opinion.

I am not following your* *last paragraph sorry.

It’s not about your ‘literary capacities’, your style is very distracting and whether you like it or not, it makes it hard to read and to glean what you’re saying. It’s like you’re sabotaging your ability to communicate clearly. People will just switch off, move on.

YADNBU!

Is "read all posts by OP" really not available on the app? Bloody hell if so! I never use it.

And, tolerable, ‘gaslighting’ doesn’t mean what you think it does. This is a handy definition:
Gaslighting is a manipulative tactic in which a person, to gain power and control of another individual, plants seeds of uncertainty in another person's mind. The self-doubt and constant questioning slowly cause the individual to question their reality

@nothingcomestonothing ok... it means "i just want to specifically indicate, that my reply is not debating whether or not that mumsnet use is a form of entertainment. multi ellipses was sufficient pause to note that my point was you contradict yourself.repeatedly.

At no point have i objected to you having or being entitled to have an opinion.

Oh god, those posters are the worst. I’m not even sure it’s always true.

They also pop up on threads where people are seeking help about their abusive parents - somebody will post about the most appalling neglect, and up will pop some sanctimonious twat saying “well MY mum died five years ago, she was the best mum ever and I’d give anything for her to be alive to call me a fat useless bitch”.

Absolutely drives me up the wall and I have often thought about posting a thread such as this to call out all those that just don't bother to read an op before jumping in with their opinion.
But I can't do that now because last week I was the first to jump in and respond to a poor poster who was being plagued with a mouse infestation. I told her to stop messing about and get someone in, only to see later that she had actually put in her original post that she'd had exterminators in 6 times.
I had completely missed that line.
Sorry to that poster. Hope you got some good advice🤭
In my defence, I always read all of an OP's posts before commenting on a thread so had I not been so quick to comment I would probably have picked that up from subsequent posts.
The other thing is, I usually look at MN on a tablet and the full OP is always at the top of every page so easy to read, whereas it isn't on my phone and you have to go back to page 1 to read it.

YANBU.

Would be nice to have an YANBU Advanced subsection for people who want to follow the basic rules (like read all OP's updates first and respond to the actual question, ++).

English isn't my first language. After being around for some time, I'd attribute more confusion to people not reading properly, maybe just skimming for key words and projecting their experience, than to some language barrier (+)
Especially when it comes to ND posters, it is often totally clear what the OP is about, but people, including clear Britons, just pile on - because the post isn't asking about the thing they think it should.

(+)Yes, shortcuts are sometimes challenging and I still can't grasp why Mumsnet is the only place in my universe where dinner is called "tea" (I haven't met it anywhere else and my UK based colleagues denied it)

(++)I heard the app is missing the button "Read all OP's post", but the mobile website works totally fine, so either use that, or scroll through pages to see a glimpse of green marking the OP's update.
If there are too many pages to scroll through, the response based only on the OP is probably worthless anyway.

Sorry I'm clearly being extra dim today cos I'm not following. I don't think I have repeatedly contradicted myself and I think you said that me stating my opinion was me speaking for all of MN and trying to gaslight you. But it is hard to tell.

Never mind, let's not derail the thread.