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To tell those who lecture me on vaping to Fuck Off

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Dogsitterwoes · 17/06/2023 13:52

AIBU. No, let them lecture you
YANBU - Yes, be rude to them

I'm in my 50s and was a long term smoker. I switched to vaping in January. I am considerate and only vape outdoors and move away from other people or into a smoking area. People sometimes
comment, there's a brief convo around my giving up smoking, and 9 out of 10 respond nicely in a 'well done you' kind of way.

The 1 out of 10 though start lecturing me on the evils of vaping. These can be complete strangers, or acquaintances. They go on and on.
Usual themes:

  1. Just as bad for you or worse for you than smoking.
  2. Children are vaping.
  3. Environmental impact of disposables.

I respond politely. I acknowledge there is a concern around all of this, and
1 - I know they aren't exactly good for me but I think they are not as bad as cigarettes, and it's my intension to also stop vaping this year
2 - I agree the manufacturer's should stop targeting non-smokers with the sweet flavours
3 - I agree, I use a rechargeable, but there's probably a lot more all of us could be doing for the environment.

But they do not let it drop. I've literally been lectured at on and on.

YANBU to stop being polite after my initial response and tell them that if I stopped vaping today, I'd be back on the fags tomorrow so mind their own fucking business?

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Tryagainplease · 03/03/2025 22:19

Gcsunnyside23 · 03/03/2025 22:17

Look in my opinion it's just other crap in another package. Yeah it might not be as bad as cigarettes but it's not good either and it annoys me off people claiming it's actually beneficial, blah blah. Why can't people just enjoy it if they want and stop going on and on that's it's so much better than smoking, people drinking alcohol don't go on and on about how good drinking one kind of alcohol is better than another. If you want to do it then fine but I don't have to agree that it's good for you, in fact it triggers my asthma just as much as cigarettes so to me it's all shit, actually it's worse because people do it indoors as well

I actually want to applaud you for at least prefacing this with “in my opinion”
Thank you so so so much for not confusing opinion with fact

Mybusyday · 03/03/2025 22:44

@Tandora - and it makes my blood boil that you are encouraging people to vape! It is absolutely beyond belief!

TeaAndTattoos · 03/03/2025 22:45

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Mybusyday · 03/03/2025 22:46

@Gcsunnyside23 - Tandora makes absolutely no sense at all! Soooo many chemicals in vapes - how can anyone think that vapes are safe??

Mybusyday · 03/03/2025 22:48

Bamboozledbylife · 03/03/2025 21:49

You've replaced one additiction with another. You're choice.
But I do object to all of the ignorant twats who insist on blowing out the smelly chemical crap in shops, on buses, pubs, restaurants, selling to kids etc. I don't want to vape nor do I want your second hand chemicals or your plastic crap all over...

Absolutely this!!! It's disgusting and I don't want to breathe it in!

Mybusyday · 03/03/2025 22:49

Tryagainplease · 03/03/2025 22:03

Wtf are you on? You make absolutely no sense. It literally says in your post that it's too early to tell so you can't claim it's research

It made absolute perfect sense to me.

Can you honestly not tell the difference between these two statements;

”As vaping is still relatively new, we can’t be sure there aren’t any long-term effects to people who breathe in someone else’s vapour. But this is unlikely to be harmful”

AND

“There are definitely long term effects to people who breathe in someone else’s vapour”

Of course it made sense to you! 🙄🙄🙄

TeaAndTattoos · 03/03/2025 22:53

Greywhippet · 03/03/2025 06:40

Maybe she’s concerned for people’s health or something?
Giving up smoking is really difficult but swapping for vapes is not a good way to go.

It’s not that difficult giving up smoking I know because I did it 5 years ago and I smoked for 13 years and managed to do it without a vape just patches and lozenges other people choose to do it using a vape that’s their choice to make. People can’t win you complain when people are smoking and you complain when people are vaping pick a lane and stay in it.

Mybusyday · 03/03/2025 22:53

Gcsunnyside23 · 03/03/2025 22:17

Look in my opinion it's just other crap in another package. Yeah it might not be as bad as cigarettes but it's not good either and it annoys me off people claiming it's actually beneficial, blah blah. Why can't people just enjoy it if they want and stop going on and on that's it's so much better than smoking, people drinking alcohol don't go on and on about how good drinking one kind of alcohol is better than another. If you want to do it then fine but I don't have to agree that it's good for you, in fact it triggers my asthma just as much as cigarettes so to me it's all shit, actually it's worse because people do it indoors as well

I absolutely agree with you - it triggers my asthma too

Mybusyday · 03/03/2025 23:01

@TeaAndTattoos - and you call me a 'sad' bastard - try looking at your own life - decency?? don't make laugh - you don't know the meaning of the word

TeaAndTattoos · 03/03/2025 23:17

Mybusyday · 03/03/2025 23:01

@TeaAndTattoos - and you call me a 'sad' bastard - try looking at your own life - decency?? don't make laugh - you don't know the meaning of the word

My life is absolutely fine thank you i’m way too busy to be dragging up old threads and I’m not the one whinging about being bullied on here and then starting it all up again because you finally had some research to show us all, we’ll just gloss over the fact that it’s incomplete research that’s taken you 18 months to find 😂. It’s just absolutely laughable that you want to sit here and act like mother Theresa and tell everyone off for smoking and vaping it’s almost like you’ve forgotten that your talking to adults here who can make their own choices without you berating them for it because you don’t like it that’s you not us no one cares what you like or don’t like. You hate that people smoke and you hate that people vape you can’t have it both ways pick a lane and stay in it.

PencilsInSpace · 03/03/2025 23:18

PencilsInSpace · 03/03/2025 19:52

You don't have any evidence for this statement, do you?

the NHS is currently changing the guidelines to say that vaping is just as dangerous to health as smoking is

tumbleweed GIF

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Mybusyday · 03/03/2025 23:23

@TeaAndTattoos - ok keep telling yourself that your life is absolutely fine - it clearly isn't by the way you talk to people who don't agree with your view point - how bloody controlling is that?! At the end of the day if people smoke or vape it is up to them but when it comes to me or my children breathing in that shit because people are too selfish to think of anyone else this is what I object to - it is disgusting 🤮

Mumtobabyhavoc · 04/03/2025 00:09

"My life is absolutely fine thank you i’m way too busy to be dragging up old threads"

Yet not too busy to post on them once revived. 😂
Pot, meet kettle.

TeaAndTattoos · 04/03/2025 00:47

Mybusyday · 03/03/2025 23:23

@TeaAndTattoos - ok keep telling yourself that your life is absolutely fine - it clearly isn't by the way you talk to people who don't agree with your view point - how bloody controlling is that?! At the end of the day if people smoke or vape it is up to them but when it comes to me or my children breathing in that shit because people are too selfish to think of anyone else this is what I object to - it is disgusting 🤮

hahahaha the way I speak to people who don’t agree with me you have absolutely no room to talk at all your the one who came back to a long forgotten post to share that research that you promised 18 months ago you wally. Your trying to tell adults what they can and can’t do because you don’t like it I’m sure you do things that people judge you 9 ways to Sunday for but they don’t get on a soap box and lecture you about it. People in glass houses and all that. Don’t stay on that high horse for too long it makes your arse look fat. Like I said you need to get a life, a hobby or some friends it might stop you from dragging up old posts.

TeaAndTattoos · 04/03/2025 02:19

Mumtobabyhavoc · 04/03/2025 00:09

"My life is absolutely fine thank you i’m way too busy to be dragging up old threads"

Yet not too busy to post on them once revived. 😂
Pot, meet kettle.

And yet here you are doing the same thing 😂

Mybusyday · 04/03/2025 06:38

Excellent! 👍

Mybusyday · 04/03/2025 06:44

Mumtobabyhavoc · 04/03/2025 00:09

"My life is absolutely fine thank you i’m way too busy to be dragging up old threads"

Yet not too busy to post on them once revived. 😂
Pot, meet kettle.

@Mumtobabyhavoc - EXCELLENT! 👍

Mybusyday · 04/03/2025 06:55

@TeaAndTattoos - I can assure you my arse is far from fat - but there you go again name calling (bullying) because someone doesn't agree with you - very classy! Lol you make me laugh - it's not me telling grown adults what they can and can't do - you are the one doing that and at the detriment of peoples health - what a wally you are! My life is wonderful thank you and I am enjoying it vape and smoke free...until I meet a smoker or vaper of course and then obviously my health is compromised but that's their conscience to deal with

Tryagainplease · 04/03/2025 07:08

Jesus fucking wept 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

Tryagainplease · 04/03/2025 07:09

This is honestly some of the most ridiculous nonsense I have ever read

Tryagainplease · 04/03/2025 07:09

I have never been infuriated by such drivel in my life before

Tryagainplease · 04/03/2025 07:09

I cannot wait until this thread is done

Tryagainplease · 04/03/2025 07:10

To anyone reading along, please do stick with vaping if you are using it to quit smoking. Do some research and look at evidence for yourself.

But first, learn the definition of evidence. It does NOT mean ‘it was written on the internet’
It means, peer-reviewed and published scientific research

Tryagainplease · 04/03/2025 07:11

And to save everyone from having an aneurysm, I’d say this thread is nearly over thank fuck

DetectiveSleuth · 04/03/2025 07:11

I just think that most smokers and vapers are selfish bastards. They’re not bothered about the trail of smoke/vape that they leave in their wake. It’s not fair on people who don’t want to stink of it and who might have medical issues.

Whilst I wouldn’t necessarily lecture, expect people to get annoyed at you when you’re vaping in their face. I wouldn’t cough in your face so don’t vape in my face.

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