To tell those who lecture me on vaping to Fuck Off

[Dogsitterwoes]

AIBU. No, let them lecture you
YANBU - Yes, be rude to them

I'm in my 50s and was a long term smoker. I switched to vaping in January. I am considerate and only vape outdoors and move away from other people or into a smoking area. People sometimes
comment, there's a brief convo around my giving up smoking, and 9 out of 10 respond nicely in a 'well done you' kind of way.

The 1 out of 10 though start lecturing me on the evils of vaping. These can be complete strangers, or acquaintances. They go on and on.
Usual themes:

1. Just as bad for you or worse for you than smoking.
2. Children are vaping.
3. Environmental impact of disposables.

I respond politely. I acknowledge there is a concern around all of this, and
1 - I know they aren't exactly good for me but I think they are not as bad as cigarettes, and it's my intension to also stop vaping this year
2 - I agree the manufacturer's should stop targeting non-smokers with the sweet flavours
3 - I agree, I use a rechargeable, but there's probably a lot more all of us could be doing for the environment.

But they do not let it drop. I've literally been lectured at on and on.

YANBU to stop being polite after my initial response and tell them that if I stopped vaping today, I'd be back on the fags tomorrow so mind their own fucking business?

What hideous things does it do to your lungs?

@CleanCar sorry for your loss, I can totally see why you've said what you said and not sure why another poster felt the need to jump on you.

OP, there's no way anyone can say whether vaping is or is not any healthier than smoking. I'd say it's something going into your lungs that isn't oxygen so that is never going to be a good thing. No it's not fair for people to lecture you but it's also unrealistic to think vaping is any better than smoking regular cigarettes. None of them are good even if that's not what people want to hear. It's an addiction and it sounds like you're now addicted to vaping instead.
If 9/10 people are telling you it's great then what does it matter if 1/10 says otherwise 🤷‍♀️ If you didn't have reservations then it wouldn't occur to you to write a post.

Proof?

Some people you have to be blunt with. I worked with a woman who drank at least two bottles of wine a night, more at the weekends and smoked like a chimney who kept telling me how unhealthy I was because I drank coffee and caffeine was ‘so bad for you’. I got sick of being polite and asked if she thought it was more unhealthy or less unhealthy than her alcoholism and chain smoking and she never mentioned it again.

No it isn't.

YABU. If you’re going to insist on being antisocial (you’re not considerate, btw) then of course you should expect to be lectured.

Don't like it? Tough.

No, it isn't. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean you can make false BS statements.

Have you heard yourself 🤣

My DB has switched to vaping. I don’t like it, but then I disliked the smoking even more.

I keep my opinions to myself unless I’m asked.

Yep. Have vapers seen themselves? It’s embarrassing 🤣

Beenhereageskeepchangingname · Today 14:29

it really upsets me when I see young kids vaping because it tastes like sweets.

Yes, there was a local news article about them and the tubes have bright colours and cartoon characters on them, it's obvious that they are aimed at children. My ten year old daughter mentioned it, as they had a talk about it at her school. It really needs to be stopped.

What's embarrassing about it?

Are you 12? Do you spend your life worrying that people might think something you do is 'embarrassing? How narrow minded and juvenile.

But you probably have no issue with walking through car fumes, smoke machines at a concert, 20 covid vaccines, toxic food, Botox.
vape is just vegetable glycerin with a bit of flavouring chill out.

People should mind theirown business unles sits blowing directly t them

i dont like people getting shit faced but apprently thats normal

Do you mean when people vape unregulated vape juice?

Because that's a different matter entirely.

Do you mean popcorn lung? That is known to be bullshit.

Ideally, no one would be inhaling anything but fresh air into their lungs. But I have seen nothing to suggest so far that vaping with regulated liquid is doing hideous things to the lungs.

Vaping is better then smoking cigarettes. It’s been scientifically proven to be 95% less harmful. Whilst I think they should ban all those hideous disposables, vaping is a proven way to quit cigarettes which contain thousands of toxic chemicals . Vape is just glycerin mixed with flavour. They’ve also got water vape on the market now as well. My fitness levels, blood pressure, oxygen levels etc have all improved massively since quitting smoking with vapes.

Loads. And not just to your lungs. I mean, look it up, but here are just a few for you:

Seven health risks from vaping to watch out for - including popcorn lung disease - Mirror Online

Study links chronic vaping to progressive lung damage – Harvard Gazette

Vaping 'causes lung damage just like smoking' according to new research - Daily Record

Chronic low‐level JUUL aerosol exposure causes pulmonary immunologic, transcriptomic, and proteomic changes - Been - 2023 - The FASEB Journal - Wiley Online Library

Menthol Flavor Makes Vape Juice More Toxic, Damaging to Lungs (upmc.com)

I knew someone who used to wear his vape on a chain, like a necklace. He looked a right twat but that's his prerogative 🤣

Would you like some more?

Vaping can cause even more DNA damage than smoking regular cigarettes, study reveals (studyfinds.org)

NIH-funded studies show damaging effects of vaping, smoking on blood vessels | National Institutes of Health (NIH)

Vaping may be just as dangerous to vascular health as smoking (medicalnewstoday.com)

@Sarahtm35 where has it been scientifically proven? By which scientists? Using what evidence?

Cigarettes were scientifically proven for years to be effective in reducing symptoms of depression, a prescribed cure for stress especially in women, even suggested by doctors to pregnant women as a stress relief, and yes kept weight down too. The long term problems weren't known at that point.

Vapes have not been around for long enough for anyone to say with certainty whether they actually are or are not any healthier. Any research scientist worth their salt will tell you that currently there is not enough time elapsed to have accurate data on any possible long term effects of vaping no matter how much you might want us to believe otherwise. Vape if you so wish but the claims you're making are hopeful at best.

I say this as someone with an MRes.
I am not saying it to be judgemental or antagonistic at all, it's just true that vaping is too new to have the full long term data to back up your claims as yet.

Somebody better let Cancer Research UK know, sharpish. You're wrong Cancer Research, the fucking Mirror says vaping causes popcorn lung 🤣

People hate not being able to berate smokers anymore don't they. What sad little lives!

Anyone who approaches you to lecture about vaping, or smoking for that matter, is a busybody twat.

If someone near me is vaping I have the right to say something. It's fine to do it to yourself, not fine inflicting it on others.

I'd rather be around someone vaping than smoking vile cigarettes, I like guessing what flavour they're using 😊

If people want to suck on plastic decices like morons that's up to them. Personally I think they look ridiculous but I would never lecture someone.