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To end friendship because they are jealous of our life?

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Kirkmms · 17/06/2023 09:39

This is long…thank you if you read until the end. We have been friendly with a couple for over 17 years now. DH and I immigrated to the country we currently live in to study, we didn’t know anyone and this couple had taken us under their arms – they also had no other family around so it felt like we were growing this relationship into something nice. This relationship has been been sustained by myself and female friend, the males mainly going along with us so not as invested as we are.As years went by my husband and I started to see/feel the differences between us, mainly in values, behavior and life choices. DH and I are in our early forties now, have two children, one already in secondary school, the other starting in September. We are very focused on our family life, kids’ education and socialising. Also, over the past 7 years we have been renovating our house – we did it slowly, a lot of DYI and not much help apart from my dad who came on 2 occasions to help. We ended up much better off financially than said couple with DH running and owning half of a small business. We never bragged about it, always kept ourselves to ourselves but could not hide the things in our house and our lifestyle. We are not rich, just earning a decent living but much better then them. The couple are much older than us – she is late 50s, he is mid 60s. He is a widower to first wife and had two kids, he is not in contact with one of them, the other lives in another country and they see each other every 4-5 years. He barely met his grandchildren. She has a son from a previous marriage, now in his early 30s who still lives with them. He is struggling to keep jobs, now studying at university level after struggling with life for about 15years – left school at 16, became a computer games addict, then a drug addict. Apparently he is now better but still smoking and struggling to finish his university course. We feel this is mostly down to her controlling behaviour as she overprotected him. He was never encouraged to join any after school clubs, go out an play in the street, give him freedom to be himself. All of this ongoing situation put a huge strain on her and relationship with husband. I tried to be supportive, offer help and suggestions but everything was dismissed as she knew better. I am giving this context as I think this is relevant to their reasons for being jealous of our life. Our relationship was put to the test during covid when people started to be all weird. They were particularly weird and had to have a conversation with them at the time. We settled down but things have been rocky since. Example: met them once, my daughter tested positive the next day. phoned her to tell her. She reacted very rude and made me feel like we had done something wrong, as it meant if her DH got covid he would not have been able to work. During all the house renovation they barely had any compliments, mainly asking when will we stop, why are doing so much. They renovated their own kitchen after we did ours – they mostly copied the style as well as the furniture. After they finished and returned to us for a visit she said ‘Oh, your kitchen looks very much like ours!’. We are now near completion of a full garden renovation, back and front. They visited last week and we made dinner for them – front garden was finished, back nearly – not a single comment/compliment, especially as they knew we had done a a lot of the work ourselves. Made us feel very disappointed with them. For a while, we had considered them our second family here, so it’s been like never getting any validation/praise from your parents that you are doing something good and they are proud of you. I don’t look for this from other people but was expecting it from them and family in general. We have been thinking for a while to stop seeing them as every time it gets uncomfortable for one reason or another. The kids are noticing her behaviour too as she made them feel uncomfortable on a couple of occasions. I know deep down she finds it hard to cope with our success. I also know the reason is due to her own situation being so difficult but still can’t understand why it’s hard to be glad for others despite your own difficulties? All my husband and I want is for people to be successful and are genuinely happy for them when they are! AIBU to think this is jealousy/envy? And AIBU to want to end friendship it even though they were there for us at the start? Do we owe them anything?

OP posts:
CharlotteRumpling · 17/06/2023 11:06

Please stop offering advice and tips to people whose DC are suffering.It's not helpful. They will already have tried everything.

I have probably ignored many friends renovations. Not because I am jealous. Rather the opposite. I have zero interest in garden and home renovation. Prefer to talk about other things.

CharlotteRumpling · 17/06/2023 11:06

It's NOT helpful, I meant.

ScientificallyProcessed · 17/06/2023 11:08

We have a relative like this. Always doing DIY, year after year after year. They get pissed off if you don’t spend every minute praising and gushing their effort. It’s exhausting, because nobody really cares. We’d rather spend time and talk about general life and have fun with them than talk about their house. It’s boring as f*ck. They’ve become boring but they don’t see it. Smug.

queenofthebooks87 · 17/06/2023 11:08

This whole post is you talking about how much better you believe yourself to be than your friends. People are different, some people may hold different values and different interests to you. They may not have been in awe of your house renovations not because of jealousy but because they are simply not that amazed by it.

MysteryBelle · 17/06/2023 11:10

Thank you, op, I think we’re all quite clear on who the jealous, bitter, angry, resentful, malicious person is in your scenario.

Do you always remind your friend about her drug addict son and how it’s all her fault and how you make more money than her now, or just everybody else?

Whataretheodds · 17/06/2023 11:10

From your post the only things they seem to have done are:

  1. not take advice from you (a non-parent at the time) when her son was in his teens
  2. not complimentary about your renovations (but apparently copied your kitchen)
  3. sounded put out when you advised they may have been exposed to covid.

Did you compliment their kitchen?
If you've spent years renovating I'm not surprised they asked when you thought you'd be finished.

I don't hear anything that sounded jealous about your lifestyle.

troubg · 17/06/2023 11:10

You both sound like you have issues....

SicParvisMagna · 17/06/2023 11:10

It definitely sounds like you have grown apart from them over the years. If you feel you don’t have much in common anymore you will notice the cracks in your relationship more I think than if you got on and agreed in stuff more. Sounds like you’re going in one direction, then in another. The age difference may also come in to play more.

Also as for them not complimenting your diy work that would annoy me too. These aren’t people you see once in a blue moon, these sound like people you see a lot and clearly they know how much work you’ve put in getting your house nice. If they can’t muster up a single comment on “we’ll done your hard work is paying off” then I would feel like I don’t have their support. If it means a lot to you and they disregard it, that would make you feel a bit crappy. Especially if they then go off and copy you 😅 good enough to copy, not good enough to comment on though. But some people
are like that. My sister is the same, would never compliment anyone on anything. Doesn’t see the need to, however if I notice something someone’s changed I will comment on it and usually, you can tell people are appreciative it. (Think how many women complain no one notices they’ve had their hair cut and you’ll get my drift).

Start to make yourself unavailable over time and you might find things come to a head anyway. She might accuse you of being distant etc at which point you might find the courage to speak up about how you feel you’re not as close anymore. You might find she just then stops contacting you. If you have mutual friends though be prepared that she might make it sound like it’s all your fault.

Sounds like you’ve made a good life for yourself in your chosen country and now you’re standing on your own two feet feel you don’t need them so much anymore. Natural, but potentially awkward!

Best of luck!

troubg · 17/06/2023 11:11

we never show off as in point to things we have done, whereas as she would if she had something to show.

except you invited them around after you'd done the front garden & we're annoyed they didn't compliment it?

MissTrip82 · 17/06/2023 11:12

You don’t sound like you like or respect them. You’re very judgmental about their misfortune. Perhaps just leave them be.

HolyFire · 17/06/2023 11:12

A lot of people would not be interested in a ‘full garden renovation, back and front.’

troubg · 17/06/2023 11:12

We feel this is mostly down to her controlling behaviour as she overprotected him. He was never encouraged to join any after school clubs, go out an play in the street, give him freedom to be himself."

This is super judgey & not what I would class as good friends.

NatureNurture85 · 17/06/2023 11:13

Your message is very condescending. You are coming across as you’re superior and know best. You’re coming across as judgmental and unkind.

I would not want to be your friend.

MysteryBelle · 17/06/2023 11:15

All hail the ‘full garden renovation, back and front’ OR ELSE 😡. —Op

ChrisPPancake · 17/06/2023 11:17

You don't sound like you like them very much anyway Confused

readbooksdrinktea · 17/06/2023 11:18

YABU to say this is about them. It's about you not liking them or having anything in common. It happens.

zingally · 17/06/2023 11:19

TBH you sound massively over-interested in their lives. Not sure what the adult son, or the husband not seeing his grandkids has to do with much.

It sounds like the cooling of the friendship might be mutual? Are they reaching out to you as often as they used to? Or is it always you making the first contact?

If the relationship has become a chore, and you're looking for reasons to dump them (which it very much sounds like, based on all the "things they do wrong" backstory), then just gradually ease up on the contact.

Onthemaintrunkline · 17/06/2023 11:19

Time to pull the plug on this friendship, I doubt by now, the other couple don’t like you very much either. It’s no longer a friendship is it? You appear critical of these these people. You’re not afraid to brag, quietly of course, and then there’s your expectation of compliments. Strange, very strange. Perhaps cultivate the type of friends who will stroke your ego?

ChrisPPancake · 17/06/2023 11:20

troubg · 17/06/2023 11:12

We feel this is mostly down to her controlling behaviour as she overprotected him. He was never encouraged to join any after school clubs, go out an play in the street, give him freedom to be himself."

This is super judgey & not what I would class as good friends.

Plus if he's early 30s and left school at 16, when the op only met him 17 years ago, there is a lot of his school career she knows nothing about!
My dc did loads of extracurricular stuff in primary/early secondary, but it tailed off. I presume @Kirkmms would judge me too.

LifeIsPainHighness · 17/06/2023 11:24

Cam22 · 17/06/2023 10:35

Perhaps the OP isn’t university educated…?

😂😂😂

CatfoodOzymandias · 17/06/2023 11:32

OP won't return. But this reminds me of a friend who is constantly seeking validation from me. She's a great cook and will invite me over for dinner, but will keep asking every few minutes how the food is. Just saying it's great won't do. I have to praise every course.

It's exhausting. I'd prefer beans on toast. Now I just make excuses now to go.

DontYouThreatenMeWithADeadFish · 17/06/2023 11:32

LifeIsPainHighness · 17/06/2023 11:24

😂😂😂

Or worse, went to a former poly.

TeenLifeMum · 17/06/2023 11:34

Maybe they’re just a bit bored of praising everything you do in your house and just wanted to come to dinner and not hear your go on about renovating. It gets dull. No idea if they’re jealous but you seem to think they should be jealous of you. I’m probably coming from a different angle because I dropped a friend a couple of years ago who decided everyone was jealous because she had a big house and brand new car. Her house is nice but I like mine too. Our car is old… but is ideal for us. She was exhausting either her air of superiority.

Zippedydoo123 · 17/06/2023 11:34

Many friendships run their course. Sad but true. Let it go.

TeenLifeMum · 17/06/2023 11:36

Oh and I’m 40 doing a uni masters as an apprenticeship at a Russell group Uni having dropped out of uni at 19. It didn’t mean my life was over. Sometimes people do stuff in different orders and maybe your dc won’t quite do what you hope and then you’ll see the other side.