To ask if you support Trump or Boris Johnson, to explain why?

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I don't get it. Both are charlatans but seem to have a core fan base.

If you're one, can you say why and do you believe they tell the truth?

I looked for a summary of Carlson’s texts and quoted from one of the first results.

Looks like I have touched a nerve, yet you unironically summed it up pretty much, I was implying that your no doubt PHD education has little knowledge other than google responses and quoting the nymag is just akin to brits providing daily mail links, it's OK to be a shitlib as long as you own it, the beauty for you is that you can name change come next election,

Again, just bizarre ad hoc attacks based on your deeply ingrained personal biases, without anything resembling an actual point being made.

Justanotherlurker · Yesterday 23:17
I didn't realise MN has been infiltrated by r/politics bots as much as I had

Do you actually mean you have been infiltrated by r/politics bots (in which case you might want to alert a medic, or possibly someone for an exorcism)? Or is it just that your grammar is as atrocious as your 'critical thinking'?

Did you want to answer the OP's question?

Finger on the pulse of left wing politics? Or right-wing politics? Which pulse of politics would we need to gauge the popularity of Trump? Personally, I don't believe he's a distant memory but very much a threat - even as he faces charges on many sides. (BTW - I'm not a r/politics bot - that's a grotesque place. I'm more into the r/cats sections.)

Were the Paterson and Pincher sagas samples of his brilliance?

He was given the chance to have Harman stand down and didn't take it, so he clearly thought she was sufficiently impartial on the Conservative majority committee.

To be fair, she has told us. She thinks it was "unwise" and "an error of judgment". Yes folks, if you are PM and get caught out countless times in lies and dodgy allocation of government contracts, and suffer a vote of no-confidence from 70% of your back benchers, it is merely unwise to appoint a known sex pest to a position of power over juniors, send ministers out to lie for you, and have 54 ministers resign as a result.

Will she have similar views on Romford Tory MP Andrew Rosindell?

The somewhat major difference is that Theresa May didn't send junior ministers out to lie about it. Nor did she have anything like Boris's long history of lies and cock-ups behind her. Nor were her ministers so disgusted by her behaviour that they resigned en masse.

Yes, we can truly say that both Trump and Johnson lie, because we have heard them lying over and over again.

It could be debated that they are no different than the majority of the public in that respect.

No, the majority of the public haven't lied to Parliament or the Queen.

It could only be debated by you, I think

Probably, and because it could also be debated that people presume what's in the papers and presume it's the truth, the whole truth and noting but the truth.

No come on. If you cannot believe your PM then there are real problems in the UK. We have a real issue of public trust, and the next couple of years are going to show that lying with Johnson wasn't a habit so much as something he didn't even notice.

The papers are just full of government press releases written by desperate special advisers. Dig even a little and there will be very different picture.

The point is that politicians are in public service. They are supposed to be held to far higher standards than the rest of us. Don't know about you, but any lies I tell aren't going to affect anyone at a national or international level, or endanger the populace, groups, or individuals.

Word has it , Obama.

I don’t know why people, particularly Trump supporters, find it so hard to believe Biden is doing his job. For all that’s made of his ‘cognitive decline’, he bested Trump is the pre-election debates. He is absolutely prone to word salads and becoming momentarily muddled, but I don’t see any reason to think he isn’t doing his job. Trump also frequently misspoke.

Trump seemed to spend most of his presidency shitposting on Twitter, watching tv, playing golf and hosting rallies.

The playing golf is one method of having informal talks with different delegates.

Fair points, but then as with the books by Stella Remington as an example with different state and none state actors with different strategies etc, the public cannot always know the full truth of it all.

Most of the people he golfed with during his administration were professional golfers, tv hosts and other celebrities (I acknowledge that he sometimes golfed with other politicians, too).

Ah I see, much appreciated for the update

Whose word is that?