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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To think she made the coffee too hot on purpose?

395 replies

Rollonannualeave · 11/06/2023 13:35

Just need some perspective as I nearly complained but then didn't want to be "that person" especially in front of my son. I've just been on a long walk with dogs and son, all lovely and we ended up in a little coffee shop that also sells plants and groceries.

I've been in once before and whenever I go, the lady that works there ways seems to look me up and down in a judgemental way. I thought I was imagining it so went again today.

I ordered a cappacino for me and lemonade for my son. We got the lemmondae instantly but then I had to wait about 10 to 15 minutes for my coffee. She literally served everyone else before me (even the people that came afterwards). My son had finished his lemondade. When I finally received my coffee it was scalding hot and I burned my tongue. I had to wait another 10 minutes for it to cool down. AIBU to think she has something against me for no reason? I've never been rude to her and don't know her. Or am I being paranoid?

OP posts:
sunglassesonthetable · 11/06/2023 21:52

*just looking at the probability of likelihood..

and level of fucking drama!*

The actual drama is posters blathering about 'hot' coffee being hot and taking the piss. Cos a stranger's 'probability of likelihood' knows best.

Billyho · 11/06/2023 21:54

sunglassesonthetable · 11/06/2023 21:52

*just looking at the probability of likelihood..

and level of fucking drama!*

The actual drama is posters blathering about 'hot' coffee being hot and taking the piss. Cos a stranger's 'probability of likelihood' knows best.

Ok…. 86% disagree ..,

Clafoutie · 11/06/2023 22:00

Billyho · 11/06/2023 21:54

Ok…. 86% disagree ..,

Fair enough to disagree, but maybe put the remaining 14% into a bit of kindness towards the OP, or at least, let up on them now?

Billyho · 11/06/2023 22:03

Clafoutie · 11/06/2023 22:00

Fair enough to disagree, but maybe put the remaining 14% into a bit of kindness towards the OP, or at least, let up on them now?

I’m not responding to OP, I’m
responding to the 14% who keep saying but, but, but!

sunglassesonthetable · 11/06/2023 22:08

I’m not responding to OP, I’m
responding to the 14% who keep saying but, but, but!

I don't get the % on the Ap so a bit irrelevant to me.

Does OP know you're not responding to her?

RantyAnty · 11/06/2023 22:11

I just wouldn't go there anymore.

You can test it by taking spoonful and take a tiny sip from the spoon. It'll cool off a little on the spoon but you'll know it's too hot in the cup if it's still hot on the spoon. Like too hot to drink but not scalding.

Or request a little jug of milk or glass of water with ice to put in to cool it down. One place I always had to drop an ice cube in before as it was always scalding hot.

Billyho · 11/06/2023 22:16

sunglassesonthetable · 11/06/2023 22:08

I’m not responding to OP, I’m
responding to the 14% who keep saying but, but, but!

I don't get the % on the Ap so a bit irrelevant to me.

Does OP know you're not responding to her?

No idea? I suppose if she’s read the thread she’d see me quoting others? Gauge that I’m answering others?

But I think she left about 9pm? You can filter her threads and check that?

Billyho · 11/06/2023 22:20

sunglassesonthetable · 11/06/2023 22:08

I’m not responding to OP, I’m
responding to the 14% who keep saying but, but, but!

I don't get the % on the Ap so a bit irrelevant to me.

Does OP know you're not responding to her?

Maybe you should ask OP that?

sunglassesonthetable · 11/06/2023 22:26

No idea? I suppose if she’s read the thread she’d see me quoting others? Gauge that I’m answering others?

Yep Great 👍🏻 I think she got the measure of where you were going with it.

Billyho · 11/06/2023 22:27

sunglassesonthetable · 11/06/2023 22:26

No idea? I suppose if she’s read the thread she’d see me quoting others? Gauge that I’m answering others?

Yep Great 👍🏻 I think she got the measure of where you were going with it.

Great, but confused by you asking TBH?

sunglassesonthetable · 11/06/2023 22:32

Don't worry about it. I don't think other people's feelings are your thing.

Casilero · 11/06/2023 23:01

Lacucuracha · 11/06/2023 20:19

I can generally by hot to the touch the cup is, the steam etc.

It was in a mug. I generally do not expect a coffee I've paid someone money to make (so better than my skills) to serve me a coffee so badly made it scalds my mouth. I can make a better coffee than that at home using my espresso pot and milk frother. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect a decent coffee, at least as good as you could make at home, when you've paid for it.

But then I could say the same about lots of things I buy outside the home. Unless it's going to be better than I can make easily myself there's not much point going out for it. If we all expected a little more, maybe there'd be no shit restaurants either...

Billyho · 11/06/2023 23:48

sunglassesonthetable · 11/06/2023 22:32

Don't worry about it. I don't think other people's feelings are your thing.

If you’re having a dig at me, maybe learn to @ or quote?

I’m not worried at all FYI, I’m sure by the morning OP will be able to take on food and fluid again!

🙄

sunglassesonthetable · 12/06/2023 06:13

Pretty sure it was fine yesterday.

Billyho · 12/06/2023 06:38

sunglassesonthetable · 12/06/2023 06:13

Pretty sure it was fine yesterday.

Pretty sure it wasn’t! At 9pm, OP posted that she still couldn’t eat or drink, but hoped to feel better in the morning.

it’s easy to filter and read all the OPs posts.

sunglassesonthetable · 12/06/2023 06:52

Yep, what I said.

WonderingWanda · 12/06/2023 06:55

She scalded the milk which makes the coffee disgusting and undrinkable, this makes her a shit batista and I wouldn't go back for that reason.

Why on earth do you think she has some sort of problem with you and has done it on purpose? Are you usually paranoid? Has something else happened between the two of you that has made you fear this? Did you go in and stamp mud all over her floor or let the dogs jump up at people? It's a strange conclusion to jump to.

Billyho · 12/06/2023 07:09

sunglassesonthetable · 12/06/2023 06:52

Yep, what I said.

Do you have comprehension issues? As that’s not what you said?

Anyway, carry on talking nonsense to yourself.

sunglassesonthetable · 12/06/2023 07:10

Give it a rest @Billyho Stop trying to school me.

LookAtThatArtwork · 12/06/2023 07:12

Did you maybe have a bigger first sip than usual due to the long wait?

I've done this before and burnt my tongue. Also on hot days my drinks take ages to cool down.

Billyho · 12/06/2023 07:15

sunglassesonthetable · 12/06/2023 07:10

Give it a rest @Billyho Stop trying to school me.

Just trying to make sense of your posts really? You’re answering me but then denying what you’re saying?

So, just maybe you need to give it a rest and not police my posts?

HeyManIJustWantSomeMuesli · 12/06/2023 07:22

My theory: She forgot to make it then when she realised she made it proper hot so you knew it was freshly made rather than made earlier and then forgotten to bring it over to you.

sunglassesonthetable · 12/06/2023 07:25

Yes whacked it in the microwave so it was boiled.

LookItsMeAgain · 12/06/2023 08:27

WaterIris · 11/06/2023 14:49

Key points of the McDonald's 'hot coffee' case.

The injured woman, Stella Liebeck, was so badly burned that she suffered third degree burns through her clothing. The coffee was so hot it burned her skin away down to the muscle, and she needed skin grafts. Her recovery took two years.

Liebeck offered to settle the case for $20k but McDonald's offered her $800 (which didn't cover her medical expenses and which is why she sued).

Other restaurants were typically serving their coffee at around 160 degrees F. For context Starbucks coffee is between 150-170 degrees. McDonald's serves coffee between 180-190 degrees.

When Liebeck sued, approx. 700 other people - including children - had previously been burned by McDonald's drinks, but they'd chosen to accept the risk rather than change their practice.

The reason why the degree variance matters is the time it takes to be burned. A coffee landing on your lap at 160 degrees can take up to 20 seconds to cause a burn, which is enough time to wipe the coffee away, or pull/ remove the clothing. Coffee at 180 degrees will burn you in three seconds.

But like most stories where someone is the butt of the joke, there's actually a good reason why this woman was awarded compensation. The injuries she suffered were awful, and McDonalds knew there was a significant risk from the temperature of their coffee but carried on regardless.

Wasn't she awarded just one day's takings of just what McD's made on their sales of coffee (which they really could have and should have just sucked up themselves as they were going to make the same amount or more the very next day)? Except they appealed the decision to award her this amount of money.

She ended up with very severe burns around her labia too, not just her thighs and only wanted her medical expenses paid but McDonald's refused to pay her medical expenses.

WaterIris · 12/06/2023 08:53

Yes I believe so. The details of her injuries are pretty horrific. Certainly puts into perspective the whole "ambulance chasing payout" bullshit.

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