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To be pissed I'm being blamed for the rift.

236 replies

KP1993 · 10/06/2023 10:16

This is my first time posting, so will try and be concise, but apologies in advance, but could do with other opinions.
This happened last Sunday. We generally visit my husbands grans on a Sunday for a few hours, most Sundays so kids can see her, and his mum, her partner and his sister commonly appear during the day, and depending on work commitments his uncle, aunt and cousins may stop by.
His mum and partner do collection for ironing lady on a Sunday afternoon, and they use her partner's van as the run can be quite large.
So past Sunday, they go out, van won't start, I go out expecting it to be battery, it's not even turning. (Turns out it was starter motor.)
Her partner contacts RAC, hubby asks if he alright to run his mum home to pick up a car to start the run. I say yeah. (He is only named driver on the insurance, and we have both interpreted that he needs permission to use said car.)
What should have been maybe 25 minutes/half hour turns into and hour and half. Txt him, no response, ring him - he's helped his mum with the first few collections in our car, she asked. A few collections being enough to fill the back of our estate and the back seat.
This is where the issue starts, our insurance is SD&P only. I did rip him for not letting me know what was going on. I am an anxious person, coupled with he only got his license back February just gone ( he lost it driving with no insurance 10 years ago, stupid teenage stunt, he admits so please don't slate him). The entire family know we don't have business insurance, so in my opinion she shouldn't have even asked, considering she won't risk her own car and license (they have 2 cars - one with business and one without). He didn't realise that had he been pulled over using the car for business without appropriate insurance the car would have been impounded (expect it would have cost at least £400-£500 to get back - we really don't have anywhere near that sort of money spare), fines, court and because he had previous the possibility of loosing his license again, as he wasn't officially insured, similarly had there been an accident. There would have been no offer of assistance as 'it's not their problem' as she has said in the past.
Fast forward to the late afternoon/evening, we had words, I went out to cool off as I was still livid. When I got home, I sent his mum a message on WhatsApp. I wasn't rude, but I was direct and it's obvious that I am pissed. I have since been told, that because I sent a message I have caused a rift in the family, I am over reacting, 'the likelihood of being pulled over is very low' (to me not the point), and should learn more 'tact' (without recognising that I have been biting my tongue for weeks as she runs down 'council' estates and the people that come off them, knowing full well that I grew up on council estate), and because I can say no to use of the car I am manipulative (this coming from his gran). I maintain that the rift was caused when his mum risked hubby license and our insurance, he admits had he known the implications he wouldn't have done it, but is owning his part. He is nieve with regards to insurance, I have dealt with car insurance for about 12 years, as well as pet insurance etc, so probably didn't go through his head. I have taken it that her behaviour is unacceptable, but I have to deal with it and shouldn't say anything, but when I call her out, she gets pissed at me, and instead of telling her her behaviour wasn't acceptable, her mother (his gran) is coddling her. When I met my husband, his mother made a big deal out of him driving without insurance, and now it's acceptable if it benefits her. In my opinion NO.
We have solved any concerns over manipulation, he has standing permission to use the car within the confines of the insurance, and if he is unsure to ask.
YABU - just let it go, he didn't get caught and it is your fault
YANBU - shouldn't have taken that risk with someone else's car/insurance/license, you are within your right to be pissed, and it isn't your fault

OP posts:
Whadda · 10/06/2023 11:26

Kindly OP, is there anything else going on? This sounds like a complete over-reaction. You catastrophised and are now ruminating on it.

You were wrong to text his mother.

ConstantlyConfusedBird · 10/06/2023 11:29

You are massively over reacting about this

Billyho · 10/06/2023 11:29

Grown man doesn’t understand insurance, you explain the situation and you’re not “coddling”! You would’ve thought something would’ve sunk in when he lost his license? Is he generally dim? Why don’t you give him responsibility?

getting pulled over on the one off collecting ironing? Next to no chance, IMO.

Messaging his mummy and telling her off for what her son did, so taking the blame off a fully grown man? Yuck!

YABU

You like having a man child and between you and his mummy you’re keeping him that way.

You all sound awful!

MarthaHansonKGB · 10/06/2023 11:30

🦇 💩 crazy - why would you be pulled? If you were (unlikely) would they ask why there was washing in the car? He only need to say he’s transporting his mum’s washing.

You’re catastrophising. He wouldn’t have been stopped, your car wouldn’t have been impounded and your insurance wouldn’t have increased. You’re also controlling.

To be pissed I'm being blamed for the rift.
Billyho · 10/06/2023 11:30

And calling your husband hubby is also 🤢

JudgeRudy · 10/06/2023 11:30

His mum was wrong to ask him. He was wrong to say yes. You were wrong to text her.

He's only got his licence back after something he did 10 years ago as a teen?! That sounds serious and I'd imagine it involved a custodial sentence. Let's assume he actually had a licence so he must be knocking on 30. He should understand the rules around insurance and make decisions accordingly. Ignorance is no excuse.

Tbh I'd be as pissed off that he was gone for an hour longer than expected and wasnt responding to your calls whilst you're left stranded at his grans.

What I don't understand is why you decided after the event to text his mum. Surely the normal thing would be to voice your opinion at the time when he returned. I don't mean a full blown row but I'd certainly have voiced my disapproval egg 'What were you thinking?' and maybe 'MIL, you should know better. You have business insurance....' ghen I'd have dropped it and continued the conversation in the privacy of my home.

Gymgoingfool · 10/06/2023 11:30

KP1993 · 10/06/2023 11:06

Are you aware that hubby officially drove without insurance today. We do not have business insurance of any kind, and in our small print it states that permission must be asked for use of the vehicle from the policy holder. He asked specifically to take you back to get the car. That's what he was covered for. Had he been pulled over, the car would have been impounded and hubby would have lost his license again due to no insurance

Yeah that wouldn’t have happened, at all. He wasn’t driving uninsured, he was just helping his mum out getting some ironing.

op, what help are you getting for your mental health problems. It’s one thing to be mentally ill like this and get help and understand your behaviour is not ok. But you’ve some apologising to do. Ripping into him, that ludicrous dramatic text to his mother.

if you were not Ill with anxiety I’d say you were controlling and deeply abusive/

HelpMeUnpickThis · 10/06/2023 11:31

KP1993 · 10/06/2023 11:06

Are you aware that hubby officially drove without insurance today. We do not have business insurance of any kind, and in our small print it states that permission must be asked for use of the vehicle from the policy holder. He asked specifically to take you back to get the car. That's what he was covered for. Had he been pulled over, the car would have been impounded and hubby would have lost his license again due to no insurance

Wowser!!!!

@KP1993 I am cringing for you.

lastminutewednesday · 10/06/2023 11:33

Whilst that bat picture has made me laugh out loud, I think Op might have wider issues with anxiety if she is this fixated about something small like this. So I think people are potentially being a bit harsh on her.
Op-have you thought about seeking some help for your anxiety? What have your family said to you about it?

Gymgoingfool · 10/06/2023 11:34

Mumuser124 · 10/06/2023 11:24

Its all very dramatic,He picked up a few loads of ironing with his mum. Do you honestly believe the police would impound the car?

You sound like you wanted to deliberately cause an issue because you were annoyed you were made to wait.

That’s what I think, she was pissed she had to wait and he didn’t answer, so she’s went on thr attack and became abusive.

lastminutewednesday · 10/06/2023 11:34

In fact if that bay with its MN t shirt isn't created and marketed for sale, then MN are missing a trick

coffeecupsandwaxmelts · 10/06/2023 11:35

For actually carrying goods in the vehicle they absolutely would be checking for business cover.

How is a pile of ironing on the backseat proof that you're using a vehicle for business use?

lastminutewednesday · 10/06/2023 11:36

*bat

zingally · 10/06/2023 11:36

Not helpful now, but moving forward, maybe put business use onto your next renewal for all your vehicles, regardless?

I have it for my car because I do a few hours a week private tutoring round my town. It didn't add any extra to my premium and brings a bit of extra piece of mind.

pillsthrillsandbellyache · 10/06/2023 11:37

Your mil asked and your DH should have said no. Your issue is with you 'hubby' who, after getting his license back after YEARS, did the stupid thing. I cannot believe you took your frustration out on your mil. The blame was solely with your DH.

Newtrix · 10/06/2023 11:37

You sound exhausting. Absolute none issue. You definitely shouldn't have text his mum!

beachcitygirl · 10/06/2023 11:39

If anyone sent that to my mum I'd be livid.
You sound utterly deranged.

Get help for your issues - ASAP

Sunnyfeelgood · 10/06/2023 11:40

@AllyCart thanks for your reply :) I know that you can't run a business on the wrong insurance and that if this was an ongoing violation then you are likely to get in trouble for this. However, when people are highly anxious, all they can see is risk and danger and the reality is that they are catastrophising. Although it is in theory possibly for the car to be seized like the OP suggests, are you seriously suggesting that is what would have happened? Yes there are rules to be followed, but we also have to have a little bit of our own common sense.

It is also illegal to pay for your food at a drive through on your phone without turning your car engine off (but most people do this). Technically you could get in trouble for it. But would it be reasonable to have a big family argument over this?

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 10/06/2023 11:40

You sound a right pain in the ass OP. You had no right to text his mum, the issue is with your husband. You're being blamed because you are to blame.

countvoncount · 10/06/2023 11:44

I feel so sorry for your husband. This is a ridiculous over reaction, no need at all

Scuttlingherbert · 10/06/2023 11:48

No one else seems to have picked up on the bit about the husband's mum regularly putting down people from council estate's, knowing OP is from a council estate.
Aside from the all the car insurance stuff, I would find that annoying.

vdbfamily · 10/06/2023 11:48

Maybe offer an olive branch by saying something like ' apologies for coming across as rude, my beef was with DH, not you. We have discussed this and he now understands that our car does not have business insurance. He is always more than happy to help family if needed but will need to use your business insured car in future.
Apologies again, no offence intended.'

CovertImage · 10/06/2023 11:49

JohnnyYenSetHimselfOnFireAgain · 10/06/2023 11:08

Do you mean "pissed off"?

Thank you!

Billyho · 10/06/2023 11:52

Scuttlingherbert · 10/06/2023 11:48

No one else seems to have picked up on the bit about the husband's mum regularly putting down people from council estate's, knowing OP is from a council estate.
Aside from the all the car insurance stuff, I would find that annoying.

And that’s probably the issue, so why OP messaged about the insurance and her “hubby” who knows!

Purplecatshopaholic · 10/06/2023 11:54

Blimey op. Sorry but this is all on you. Over-dramatic much? Jeezo. Chill out and calm down! That text is beyond cringe, I can’t believe you actually sent that. In fact, I hope this whole thread is a wind up..