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AIBU?

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To be pissed I'm being blamed for the rift.

236 replies

KP1993 · 10/06/2023 10:16

This is my first time posting, so will try and be concise, but apologies in advance, but could do with other opinions.
This happened last Sunday. We generally visit my husbands grans on a Sunday for a few hours, most Sundays so kids can see her, and his mum, her partner and his sister commonly appear during the day, and depending on work commitments his uncle, aunt and cousins may stop by.
His mum and partner do collection for ironing lady on a Sunday afternoon, and they use her partner's van as the run can be quite large.
So past Sunday, they go out, van won't start, I go out expecting it to be battery, it's not even turning. (Turns out it was starter motor.)
Her partner contacts RAC, hubby asks if he alright to run his mum home to pick up a car to start the run. I say yeah. (He is only named driver on the insurance, and we have both interpreted that he needs permission to use said car.)
What should have been maybe 25 minutes/half hour turns into and hour and half. Txt him, no response, ring him - he's helped his mum with the first few collections in our car, she asked. A few collections being enough to fill the back of our estate and the back seat.
This is where the issue starts, our insurance is SD&P only. I did rip him for not letting me know what was going on. I am an anxious person, coupled with he only got his license back February just gone ( he lost it driving with no insurance 10 years ago, stupid teenage stunt, he admits so please don't slate him). The entire family know we don't have business insurance, so in my opinion she shouldn't have even asked, considering she won't risk her own car and license (they have 2 cars - one with business and one without). He didn't realise that had he been pulled over using the car for business without appropriate insurance the car would have been impounded (expect it would have cost at least £400-£500 to get back - we really don't have anywhere near that sort of money spare), fines, court and because he had previous the possibility of loosing his license again, as he wasn't officially insured, similarly had there been an accident. There would have been no offer of assistance as 'it's not their problem' as she has said in the past.
Fast forward to the late afternoon/evening, we had words, I went out to cool off as I was still livid. When I got home, I sent his mum a message on WhatsApp. I wasn't rude, but I was direct and it's obvious that I am pissed. I have since been told, that because I sent a message I have caused a rift in the family, I am over reacting, 'the likelihood of being pulled over is very low' (to me not the point), and should learn more 'tact' (without recognising that I have been biting my tongue for weeks as she runs down 'council' estates and the people that come off them, knowing full well that I grew up on council estate), and because I can say no to use of the car I am manipulative (this coming from his gran). I maintain that the rift was caused when his mum risked hubby license and our insurance, he admits had he known the implications he wouldn't have done it, but is owning his part. He is nieve with regards to insurance, I have dealt with car insurance for about 12 years, as well as pet insurance etc, so probably didn't go through his head. I have taken it that her behaviour is unacceptable, but I have to deal with it and shouldn't say anything, but when I call her out, she gets pissed at me, and instead of telling her her behaviour wasn't acceptable, her mother (his gran) is coddling her. When I met my husband, his mother made a big deal out of him driving without insurance, and now it's acceptable if it benefits her. In my opinion NO.
We have solved any concerns over manipulation, he has standing permission to use the car within the confines of the insurance, and if he is unsure to ask.
YABU - just let it go, he didn't get caught and it is your fault
YANBU - shouldn't have taken that risk with someone else's car/insurance/license, you are within your right to be pissed, and it isn't your fault

OP posts:
NoraBattysCurlers · 10/06/2023 17:32

On occasion - as some Mumsnetters acknowledge - sons struggle with the demands of domineering mothers. This has happened to me a few times in the last 34 years. I’m not ashamed to say I put my foot down with my MiL when her son and husband were passive, when she pushed and pushed. Nor should I be ashamed.

From domineering mother to domineering wife by the sounds of it.

ItsNotRocketSalad · 10/06/2023 17:35

PP are wrong, if there was an accident the insurers would ask about the reason for driving, where you were going etc

I've been involved in four accidents (none of them my fault, just saying) and not once was I asked the reason for travel. I've also been stopped by police a few times for random checks and never have they asked, either.

merderforlife · 10/06/2023 17:43

Never read anything so ridiculous. You have been totally pathetic. If your DH posted this saying what you had done I'd say LTB

BinkyBeaufort · 10/06/2023 17:50

So now that everyone (unless I've missed something) has agreed that you were massively unreasonable and totally wrong to message mil have you apologised to her?
And if not why not?

KP19933 · 10/06/2023 17:54

Regardless of the rude comments, even if many people don't agree with me or my actions, it has been helpful to get all frustration out, and can see other point of view. Those few people who are supportive, whether they agree or not thank you. As I have said, it shocks me how many people would take that risk, your choice. It also shocks me how many people don't see an issue asking someone else to do something that you yourself wouldn't do. That is completely unreasonable. I am also surprised that some people think marriage is something to throw away. I won't be viewing any more.

Butchyrestingface · 10/06/2023 17:56

KP19933 · 10/06/2023 17:54

Regardless of the rude comments, even if many people don't agree with me or my actions, it has been helpful to get all frustration out, and can see other point of view. Those few people who are supportive, whether they agree or not thank you. As I have said, it shocks me how many people would take that risk, your choice. It also shocks me how many people don't see an issue asking someone else to do something that you yourself wouldn't do. That is completely unreasonable. I am also surprised that some people think marriage is something to throw away. I won't be viewing any more.

Is that a name change fail?

I do so ❤️ them.

butterpuffed · 10/06/2023 18:07

BinkyBeaufort · 10/06/2023 17:50

So now that everyone (unless I've missed something) has agreed that you were massively unreasonable and totally wrong to message mil have you apologised to her?
And if not why not?

Lawyer for the Prosecution has arrived !

waterproofed · 10/06/2023 21:52

Pretty unreadable, but ChatGPT came to the rescue - this is the summary:

In this story, two mothers with autistic daughters are involved in a complex situation. The narrator has a somewhat cordial relationship with the other mother, but finds her pushy and persistent in seeking information. The other mother believes her daughter is being bullied by a mutual friend, referred to as child X, and constantly sends texts complaining about it.

Despite an agreement to keep their daughters away from child X due to past aggressive behavior, the narrator discovers that her daughter maintains a secret friendship with child X. The other mother continues to send messages about the negative influence of child X and claims her daughter is being excluded. The narrator becomes stressed by the persistent texts and decides to let her daughter make her own friendship choices.

The other mother persists in sending messages, criticizing the narrator and alleging that her daughter is being taken advantage of. The narrator eventually learns from a teacher that all three girls are actually good friends. Frustrated, she confronts the other mother with the truth, but the other mother denies any wrongdoing, blocks the narrator, and distorts the situation.

The narrator feels confused and wonders if this behavior constitutes gaslighting or mind games, considering that both daughters involved have autism. The situation has caused significant emotional turmoil for the narrator, with the other mother denying her own initiation of the complaining text messages and shifting blame onto the narrator. The narrator's trust has been shaken, and she feels as if her mind has been spun through a washing machine.

Billyho · 10/06/2023 21:54

waterproofed · 10/06/2023 21:52

Pretty unreadable, but ChatGPT came to the rescue - this is the summary:

In this story, two mothers with autistic daughters are involved in a complex situation. The narrator has a somewhat cordial relationship with the other mother, but finds her pushy and persistent in seeking information. The other mother believes her daughter is being bullied by a mutual friend, referred to as child X, and constantly sends texts complaining about it.

Despite an agreement to keep their daughters away from child X due to past aggressive behavior, the narrator discovers that her daughter maintains a secret friendship with child X. The other mother continues to send messages about the negative influence of child X and claims her daughter is being excluded. The narrator becomes stressed by the persistent texts and decides to let her daughter make her own friendship choices.

The other mother persists in sending messages, criticizing the narrator and alleging that her daughter is being taken advantage of. The narrator eventually learns from a teacher that all three girls are actually good friends. Frustrated, she confronts the other mother with the truth, but the other mother denies any wrongdoing, blocks the narrator, and distorts the situation.

The narrator feels confused and wonders if this behavior constitutes gaslighting or mind games, considering that both daughters involved have autism. The situation has caused significant emotional turmoil for the narrator, with the other mother denying her own initiation of the complaining text messages and shifting blame onto the narrator. The narrator's trust has been shaken, and she feels as if her mind has been spun through a washing machine.

Wrong thread?

LifeIsPainHighness · 10/06/2023 22:00

FGS OP if in the unlikely situation they were pulled over you just wouldn’t admit you were doing a business run FFS. What a total over reactionZ

But he was disqualified for TEN YEARS!! Are you sure?

LifeIsPainHighness · 10/06/2023 22:02

ItsNotRocketSalad · 10/06/2023 17:35

PP are wrong, if there was an accident the insurers would ask about the reason for driving, where you were going etc

I've been involved in four accidents (none of them my fault, just saying) and not once was I asked the reason for travel. I've also been stopped by police a few times for random checks and never have they asked, either.

Same, I’ve had 3 accidents and have never once been asked this and TBH I’d just bloody lie it’s not like they’d know you had a load of ironing in the boot FFS

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