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Shark Attack

525 replies

JayAlfredPrufrock · 09/06/2023 17:46

Nice to see that the shark that killed a swimmer in Egypt was caught and beaten to death on the beach.

<Slow handclap>

OP posts:
Emmamoo89 · 10/06/2023 16:23

PoeAFighterAResistanceFighter · 09/06/2023 20:31

Basking sharks don't eat people.
And great whites don't come anywhere close enough for it to be an issue.

There's quite a few species of sharks in Cornwall coast

CornflakesOnTheSolesOfHerShoes · 10/06/2023 16:25

Oh my word. To claim that there’s something wrong with people who aren’t distraught about the death of a shark which has actually eaten someone, and in the next sentence to wish painful death on fellow human beings is…quite something.

AlwaysGinPlease · 10/06/2023 16:28

CornflakesOnTheSolesOfHerShoes · 10/06/2023 16:25

Oh my word. To claim that there’s something wrong with people who aren’t distraught about the death of a shark which has actually eaten someone, and in the next sentence to wish painful death on fellow human beings is…quite something.

They're not my fellow human beings. Anyone that tortures is not human and doesn't belong amongst decent people. Take your mock outrage elsewhere. A sharks home is the sea. Ridiculous to expect anything else from a shark.

PoeAFighterAResistanceFighter · 10/06/2023 16:33

Emmamoo89 · 10/06/2023 16:23

There's quite a few species of sharks in Cornwall coast

Noameaters though...yet.

Keep fishing though. See what happens.

CornflakesOnTheSolesOfHerShoes · 10/06/2023 16:35

It’s not mock outrage. I’m genuinely appalled and disgusted that people can summon up this much venom against other people for killing a fish.

AlwaysGinPlease · 10/06/2023 16:38

They tortured it, for doing what sharks do. They're vermin. The fact that YOU think that's nothing appalls and disgusts ME.

RunningUpThatMill · 10/06/2023 16:53

Hanneli · 10/06/2023 14:57

This 100%

I can't understand how people are more shocked by the death of a shark than the death of poor man.

Whilst I can only speak for myself here, I'm not so much shocked at the death of the shark, but I'm utterly disgusted about how they killed it.

I also feel so sad for this young man, his family and anyone who witnessed it.

lalalallala · 10/06/2023 17:00

RunningUpThatMill · 10/06/2023 16:53

Whilst I can only speak for myself here, I'm not so much shocked at the death of the shark, but I'm utterly disgusted about how they killed it.

I also feel so sad for this young man, his family and anyone who witnessed it.

There would have been more ethical ways to kill it (shooting it for instance), but I guess witnessing that horrible attack, everyone's emotions were running high.

I can't blame people for what they did in that situation. It's a horrible thing to witness.

I have sympathy with the shark, but I have 1000 x more sympathy with the young man killed, his father, girlfriend and everyone else who witnessed the attack.

EsmeSusanOgg · 10/06/2023 17:08

ReleasetheCrackHen · 09/06/2023 18:06

It was aTiger shark and sadly once they start attacking AND eating humans, they keep coming back for more human.

It’s not much different from putting down a dangerous dog.

Whilst the brutality of the way it was killed is utterly grim, it is standard practice across the globe to euthanise sharks when they try to kill and eat people, especially tiger sharks which will often be 'repeat customers'. This is a busy tourist area with lots of swimmers, but also lots of local fishermen. The shark was going to be hunted and killed after this incident. That does not mean all sharks in the area will be killed. Just the one that was coming close to shore and eating people.

I would have much rather it be done in a more humane fashion, but I am surprised by the number of shocked posters here. This is what is done in Australia, in the US, in South Africa, pretty much anywhere where a shark turns man-eater (most sharks do not like eating people).

EsmeSusanOgg · 10/06/2023 17:10

lalalallala · 10/06/2023 17:00

There would have been more ethical ways to kill it (shooting it for instance), but I guess witnessing that horrible attack, everyone's emotions were running high.

I can't blame people for what they did in that situation. It's a horrible thing to witness.

I have sympathy with the shark, but I have 1000 x more sympathy with the young man killed, his father, girlfriend and everyone else who witnessed the attack.

It is understandable, it sounds like a truly traumatic experience. I'd have rather a more ethical approach to euthanising the shark though -- but obviously, I'm speaking from a place of distance and not immediate trauma.

RunningUpThatMill · 10/06/2023 17:13

EsmeSusanOgg · 10/06/2023 17:10

It is understandable, it sounds like a truly traumatic experience. I'd have rather a more ethical approach to euthanising the shark though -- but obviously, I'm speaking from a place of distance and not immediate trauma.

I'm speaking from a place of distance and not immediate trauma.

This is a good and rational point, however, that does not negate my feelings that the way they killed the shark was brutally unnecessary.

CleverLilViper · 10/06/2023 17:15

ReleasetheCrackHen · 09/06/2023 18:06

It was aTiger shark and sadly once they start attacking AND eating humans, they keep coming back for more human.

It’s not much different from putting down a dangerous dog.

Or people could, you know, stay out of their fucking habitat or accept the risk when you go in. We don’t own the fucking world you know.

stbrandonsboat · 10/06/2023 17:19

Their act of revenge will be futile because there are plenty more sharks out there. Humans don't need to be in the sea, whereas sharks do. I suggest we all stick to our respective areas and things like this won't happen.

EsmeSusanOgg · 10/06/2023 17:19

RunningUpThatMill · 10/06/2023 17:13

I'm speaking from a place of distance and not immediate trauma.

This is a good and rational point, however, that does not negate my feelings that the way they killed the shark was brutally unnecessary.

No, it doesn't. Your feelings on this are entirely valid. But it's not a totally black and white moral issue, and even if it could be considered so, people suffering extremes of emotion following trauma are not always going to behave rationally. I'm not sure how I would have reacted in the same scenario if it was my child.

EsmeSusanOgg · 10/06/2023 17:21

stbrandonsboat · 10/06/2023 17:19

Their act of revenge will be futile because there are plenty more sharks out there. Humans don't need to be in the sea, whereas sharks do. I suggest we all stick to our respective areas and things like this won't happen.

Most sharks do not, and are not interested in, eating people. We're horrible boney things for a start... Much tastier fish that cause less issues and sharks do not have to get quite so close to shore (with the various dangers entailed in doing that) hunting fish. This was an unusual event.

CleverLilViper · 10/06/2023 17:23

troubg · 09/06/2023 18:35

If you don't want to run the risk of being predated on by sea creatures, stay out of the fucking sea

Bit victim blamly! Do you have the same attitude when people drown or ships sink?

Oh do kindly piss off.

If you go into the sea where sharks are known to live especially in areas like Egypt where they’re quite common that’s a risk that you’ve taken.

A shark has just been a shark. That’s it. You wouldn’t go into a lion enclosure and act surprised when you get eaten would you?

CleverLilViper · 10/06/2023 17:31

We are the absolute worst species on this planet. We are the ones who invade the ocean which isn’t our natural habitat and then kill the animals whose natural habitat it is when they attack us for being there. Abysmal and to all defending it- fuck off.

There is no justifying this. None. We’re the ones destroying the ocean and then we have the nerve to act like we own the word and can just do what we want. Shark kills swimmer who ventured into the ocean. Sad for the victim and the family. But it’s a foreseeable risk and one many accept when they plod into the ocean mindlessly.

It’s not like the shark got out of the ocean, knocked on his door and went for a snack is it? If people stayed out of the ocean especially in areas they are known to swim and hunt this kind of thing wouldn’t happen.

AlwaysGinPlease · 10/06/2023 17:33

@CleverLilViper @stbrandonsboat

Thank you for some common sense at last!

Amethyst13 · 10/06/2023 17:58

It's just a fish 🙄

Amethyst13 · 10/06/2023 18:06

And I mean that to say, why is the death of this fish so upsetting compared to all the cod that go into our fish and chips?

The people who killed it were reacting to a horrific event they had just witnessed and used what they had at hand. Not sure I can judge them for that.

stbrandonsboat · 10/06/2023 18:07

Amethyst13 · 10/06/2023 17:58

It's just a fish 🙄

That's what they said about the Dodo and the Thylacine and the Barbary Lion, Carrier Pigeon etc. etc. etc. ad infinitum

Pesky animals cluttering up human areas 🙄

stbrandonsboat · 10/06/2023 18:10

Amethyst13 · 10/06/2023 18:06

And I mean that to say, why is the death of this fish so upsetting compared to all the cod that go into our fish and chips?

The people who killed it were reacting to a horrific event they had just witnessed and used what they had at hand. Not sure I can judge them for that.

People should no longer be eating cod due to over fishing. I'd prefer to see the seas full of fish and do without myself.

RunningUpThatMill · 10/06/2023 18:13

Amethyst13 · 10/06/2023 18:06

And I mean that to say, why is the death of this fish so upsetting compared to all the cod that go into our fish and chips?

The people who killed it were reacting to a horrific event they had just witnessed and used what they had at hand. Not sure I can judge them for that.

Not all of us follow an omnivorous diet, therefore we don't eat cod. Some of us have an ethical opinion that animals should not be used and abused.

'It's just a fish' is a dangerous statement. Just because it is a fish doesn't mean that it should be subjected to such cruelty.

Just curious, but when dogs maul humans to death, would you be happy for a mob to beat and kick it to death?

stbrandonsboat · 10/06/2023 18:18

'It's just a ....' has been said about people before. It still is in many places. Life is cheap.

CleverLilViper · 10/06/2023 18:26

“It’s just a fish.”

It’s also just a human. What makes that human anymore important than the shark? Your perception. That’s it.

Clearly you’re one of the many people who think that humans own the world and everything else that also inhabits our world is merely a guest, staying at our convenience and we have the right to eliminate them when they step out of line.

Fortunately there are those of us that understand that this isn’t the case. We share the world with these creatures and don’t hold dominion over them. If we go into the ocean where sharks and other dangerous sea creatures live we have to go with the understanding that it’s their home and if something happens to us it was a risk we took. Just because someone fell victim to a shark does not give us the right to kill it for being a shark.

We have people who argue against the death penalty for humans that are serial killers. Proven serial killers. People who killed even though they knew better. Yet people will champion the death of a shark 🦈 who only followed their instinct and didn’t know humans were supposed to be some special protected creature. Note: we’re not.

We have to accept that some animals (quite a lot actually) are dangerous and we should do what we can to limit our exposure to them. And if we don’t- we fuck around and find out.