To think most men are degenerate if you dig down

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That's it really. Could be pmt but...

I'm not sure MN helps change my mind, and yes, I know people don't post their happy stories.

My own experiences, that of most of my friends, the women on here. It's endless. I know there are some guys that are nicer than others. I know some that I consider good friends. I still wonder, deep deep down if they're all degenerate when it comes to sex.

Porn, prostitution, rough sex, casual assaults, etc. I listened to womens hour today discussing a new BBC doc about the widespread groping on the tube in Japan. What's most shocking to me is the fact they have sex clubs there that allow men to pay to replicate that kind of sexual assault (clubs decked out like train carriages full of prostitutes that appear to resist as part of the fun). Thing is, it's not a fringe activity, it's a "thing". I totally despair. I try to be positive, I have a partner, I have a daughter that's growing up fas, but push comes to shove... wouldn't trust one man that deeply when their sexuality calls.

Shoot me.😀

It's not clear at all. We do get that you have no choice over the gender of your baby.

The point is that most parents don't really care if they have a boy or a girl, thankfully. You stating "you don't have a choice" make it sound like it's not something you'd have chosen...

Totally agree.

I just had a chat with my 5yo today about never playing in an area where there are men without women and/or children with them (we were in the park and she wanted to climb a tree next to where two dodgy guys were clearly using gear).

And she asked me why and I said it was to keep her safe because not all men can be trusted around women and girls.

Which is the truth. And the right thing to tell her.

But the sadness of it really hit me afterwards.

Are you a political lesbian?

The older I get the more fascinated and moved I am by this group fighting for a better life even against their own hormonal sexual responses/desires

you make it sound like it's safe to be near women or teen girls.

I believe that's it's necessary to be aware that not all people, not all strangers are safe. I wouldn't trust a complete stranger with my child just because she's female.

I would even naturally trust a father with his kids more than I would trust a single woman, and wouldn't trust anyone looking dodgy of course.

You got that I said you have no choice over the gender of your baby.

Your interpretation is in your own head.

It's only frowned upon because men don't believe or respect it

Statistically a female stranger would be safer than a male. Fact.

Plenty of women harm children. I wouldn't want my child to think all female strangers are safe.

Just because you write "fact" does not make it one .

I have a son. I hope that his dad and I brought him up to be one of the people who will facilitate change. So far, so good.

I was saying this to my friend today...there is not a single man I can think of, including family, colleagues, exes, friends, friend's husband's etc. that I have got to know beyond surface level who hasn't disappointed me with some sexist behaviour. From SA down to light sexist 'bants'. Yes, includes father and brothers.

Not to mention cat calling, online comments, assaults from strangers.

I have met men who haven't been like that to me but that has been because our interactions were surface level - ie. work email or server in shop etc (and frequently not always then).

I have sons and love them dearly - i think the only way to help them is to be aware of the reality, look at what causes it and mitigate and educate. Nothing else for it.

Denying reality and statistics and saying your DH is nice so all is well is so blinkered to what kids of the future are facing esp with AI, tech and the continuing seepage and promoted acceptance of kinks and porn into everyday life.

I do definitely think testosterone has an impact. Men's levels are so much higher.

Women do feel the impact of our hormones but we are more likely to turn them inward and harm ourselves than men who tend to hard outwardly.

It's genuinely incredible how successful the MRAs have been in convincing people that women are as violent as men.

Actually, it is a fact. Statistically speaking, a female stranger is safer than a male stranger because on average men are more likely to commit sexual and/or violent crimes than women.

it's incredible how naive someone could be and would trust any random with their own child just because she has been born with a vagina.

Exactly.

Noone is saying women cannot or do not harm children. But statistically it is much more likely for a man to harm a child.

.there is not a single man I can think of, including family, colleagues, exes, friends, friend's husband's etc. that I have got to know beyond surface level who hasn't disappointed me with some sexist behaviour. From SA down to light sexist 'bants'. Yes, includes father and brothers.

this is not my own experience at all.

I am not saying you are lying or mistaken, I am just saying that I have a completely different experience.

As GBoucher says, it is a fact. 82% of violent offenders are male, from ONS 2021.

My mum used to be looked after by her next door neighbour. The father was her father's best friend and had a wife and children (also a girl of his own). He sexually abused my mother intermittently when she went there. She never said anything to her parents as he threatened she'd never see his daughter again and the two were friends.

A husband and father isn't necessarily a safe bet.

a father with his own children is more likely to harm another child? really?

In which neighbourhood do you live! I can't imagine any of the fathers I see at various parks around me being a danger to my child.

Your attempts at obfuscation are laughable.

Men harm other men, women and children more than women. Fact.

I didnt say fathers. I said men. But yes fathers can abuse other children. My own mother was abused by her fathers best friend.

But my original post said "fathers". I said that I would naturally trust a father with his own kids more than I would trust a lone female.

The point was that I would never teach my kids that male = possible danger, but female = safe. I don't agree with this.

We can't assure any stranger is safe to a child male or female. But you're doing your children a disservice if you don't teach them about the risks some men can present.