To think most men are degenerate if you dig down

[dontshootthefruit]

That's it really. Could be pmt but...

I'm not sure MN helps change my mind, and yes, I know people don't post their happy stories.

My own experiences, that of most of my friends, the women on here. It's endless. I know there are some guys that are nicer than others. I know some that I consider good friends. I still wonder, deep deep down if they're all degenerate when it comes to sex.

Porn, prostitution, rough sex, casual assaults, etc. I listened to womens hour today discussing a new BBC doc about the widespread groping on the tube in Japan. What's most shocking to me is the fact they have sex clubs there that allow men to pay to replicate that kind of sexual assault (clubs decked out like train carriages full of prostitutes that appear to resist as part of the fun). Thing is, it's not a fringe activity, it's a "thing". I totally despair. I try to be positive, I have a partner, I have a daughter that's growing up fas, but push comes to shove... wouldn't trust one man that deeply when their sexuality calls.

Shoot me.😀

Honestly what do you want the answer to be? That’s the complete opposite of my experience and I disagree completely but I’m sure I’ll be shouted down by the people on here. People act on here like there isn’t an a negative trait amongst women and that we’re all saints beaten down by men everywhere.

So many people talking about men in workplaces in this thread, best managers/leaders I’ve had have been men, its not even close.

Two women didn't sexually assault a man and throw him off a cliff.
You wouldn't know that from reading some of the responses.

Yeah, definitely women are just as killy as men, but our natural slyness and mendacious ways are why nobody knows or can point to the victims.

Paternal societies depend on men being sure that they are the father of “their” children, so their wealth and status is inherited by the next generation. They can only do that by strictly controlling the sexual behaviour of women in their families.

You are spot on about the internet, I think. The young male inbuilt urge for sexual gratification has always been there, and happy to escape the boundaries. Just look up the experiences of German women during the fall of Berlin in 1945.

thank you it was a good reply wasn't it, and yes you are quite correct, women dont commit acts of violence, not on the industrial scale that men do

To think most men are degenerate if you dig down

No more or less than the males of other animal species.

Comforting 🤔

This is how I think. We do all have many faces. Everyone. I speak differently to my kids, mates, parents etc. and yes between different friends I will also behave slightly differently. I try to be authentic whatever that means but of course we are all chameleons to some extent.

Men are the same of course. And we see them at work and see faces their wives probably never see.

I think, for me, it's about hoping (knowing, maybe that's not possible?) that the other faces they wear with friends and colleagues dont diverge too far from the one you see. That's it really in a nutshell for me.

I've had partners where I know (for all sorts of reasons) that what I saw was what I got (mostly). And others... have found out that their other faces were very different to the one I saw. In between, and for most of us, we hope that they're not the ones openly talking about shagging the young colleague. I think we can have a gut feeling as to whether they are, but one never really knows a lot of the time and we are often wrong.

I think when we find porn, and chats amongst their friends etc (as on here a lot) it's mostly shocking as we just didn't "expect" it of them. If they come across as a thoughtful half decent man.

My thoughts are that... be prepared, don't be naive, most of them wear a degenerate face somewhere - at work, when they're watching pornhub, or even just they show it to themselves....

Almost seems quaint to think otherwise the older I get.

I also think that while men cause most of the physical damage we underestimate the amount of emotional damage that women cause. You only have to read threads on here like 'we took you to stately homes' to see that. Whilst I agree that most men have the capacity to be violent I don't buy into the narrative of ' the world would be perfect if there were only women' which is often the subtext on here.

The same testosterone that leads men to be violent leads them to do heroic acts as police officers, soldiers, rescuers etc. Women do that but not in the quantity men do. Each sex has their strengths and weakness and they are different.

The idea that men don't do emotional abuse is literally insane.

If I thought this was true I may as well just throw in the towel now as a parent, does anyone who think this have sons? There are a lot of shit men out there, a lot, and society is broken, but if anyone believes they are all degenerate then they should not be procreating surely? I have to believe I can raise good men, otherwise what the fuck is the point in this life.

But I'd you believe men are fundamentally degenerate, all you're doing is teaching them to hide their base instincts until they can't, so you must surely still believe they're degenerate too

Well quite. All men are degenerate but I'll marry this one anyway and risk having sons, I don't get that logic.

I have a good DH and 3 sons. Thankfully their role model is a good man who teaches his wife and mother with love and respect. I have 3 nephews, one of who's a good man. The other two, like my sons, I believe will be when they grow up.